[__ Prayer __] I hate God

[Free]

Yes to answer your question, I hear thoughts in my head that seem to be conversation. I also have visions...I just don't know what is from God and what is just my imagination or some spirit not of God. Many people keep saying "Does it add up with God's word"....well, technically I could stone someone to death for adultery and that adds up with God's word.

No, you couldn't. I suggest you do some study as to why stoning, and much of the OT Law, doesn't apply anymore. You must search the Bible to see if these conversations and visions align with Scripture. They must not contradict or change anything that is said or they are not of God.

No where in God's word does it say that everything we believe about Theology must be contained in God's word! If we followed that philosophy we wouldn't have a Bible,

Your conclusion doesn't follow.

2Ti 3:14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it
2Ti 3:15 and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (ESV)

The Bible contains all the we need pertaining to salvation and living as followers of Christ.

because nowhere in God's Word does it say which of the documents belong in a single volume and Christians debated for centuries about what the correct Canon of Scripture was before a decision was ever made, and that decision was not backed up by Scripture, which means the Bible isn't the final and only authority for settling spiritual matters.

Yes, the Bible is the final authority for settling spiritual matters. The Canon was debated for about two centuries, during which there was much agreement about which books were to be included. There were certain criteria used to determine which to include and which to exclude, among them were the acceptance of a book by the church at large, who wrote the book (an apostle or close associate), and whether or not it adhered to orthodox teaching. That the Bible itself says nothing of which books to include is irrelevant.

I just want clear instructions from God and hear his voice. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Then read and thoroughly study the Bible, with an attitude of humility, and in prayer.

 

[matt1917]

No, you couldn't. I suggest you do some study as to why stoning, and much of the OT Law, doesn't apply anymore. You must search the Bible to see if these conversations and visions align with Scripture. They must not contradict or change anything that is said or they are not of God.


Your conclusion doesn't follow.

2Ti 3:14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it
2Ti 3:15 and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (ESV)

The Bible contains all the we need pertaining to salvation and living as followers of Christ.


Yes, the Bible is the final authority for settling spiritual matters. The Canon was debated for about two centuries, during which there was much agreement about which books were to be included. There were certain criteria used to determine which to include and which to exclude, among them were the acceptance of a book by the church at large, who wrote the book (an apostle or close associate), and whether or not it adhered to orthodox teaching. That the Bible itself says nothing of which books to include is irrelevant.


Then read and thoroughly study the Bible, with an attitude of humility, and in prayer.

Not a single place in your quote did you identify anything in Scripture that says the Scriptures are the final or only authority. Yes, Scripture says the man of God needs Scripture to be complete. That doesn't mean Scripture is the only authority, it just means Scripture is important for being completely equipped for every good work.

Before there was a printing press it was impossible for most people to own their own Bible and most people were illiterate anyway. The Apostles operated under the influence of the Holy Spirit. They didn't carry a Bible nor did they ever pass out a Bible and they didn't go around making copies of Scripture to hand out to people.

 

[Brother Mike]

Not a single place in your quote did you identify anything in Scripture that says the Scriptures are the final or only authority. Yes, Scripture says the man of God needs Scripture to be complete. That doesn't mean Scripture is the only authority, it just means Scripture is important for being completely equipped for every good work.

Before there was a printing press it was impossible for most people to own their own Bible and most people were illiterate anyway. The Apostles operated under the influence of the Holy Spirit. They didn't carry a Bible nor did they ever pass out a Bible and they didn't go around making copies of Scripture to hand out to people.

OK Matt, The Word of God is the highest authority and 100% correct to all the other so called authorities. Jesus said even Satan's Kingdom is not divided. So, there are two options, the devils authority and man's doctrine or the other Kingdom. God's authority and His Doctrine.

There are only two ruling authorities on Earth. So then I choose God's Kingdom (Rule) over the Satanic Kingdom and the devils rule.
God was Kind enough to preserve His Word that we may have it.

 

[Edward]

Being good to people is one part of God's will that is clear. Much of his will is not.

What to do for a living, what to major in, how to get healing, how to receive the gifts of the spirit, how to discern God's voice isn't clear. It is a world full of sick spiritually blind, deaf, and confused people, and it isn't going to improve unless God starts healing and enlightening people.

Regarding your question, what to do when someone is getting beaten up, by the grace of God I believe I would intervene. Or, I could be like God and just watch. Yeah, that's right, God sees children getting raped, beaten, tortured, and murdered every day and he just watches and refuses to intervene.

So you'd intervene and stop the big bad guy from beating up the smaller guy. But then you find out that the big guy is the father of a 6 year old little girl that the smaller guy raped and molested the day before.

Well that makes a big difference when you know the whole story, huh? There's a bigger picture there that you didn't know about when you intervened. When you know the big picture, the story behind the altercation, suddenly all is not what it seems and the big bad guy is in reality the good guy and the small good guy is, in reality the bad guy...

So it is with the Bible, and your so called unjust cruel God. You stopped reading and began reacting to a small portion of it...without getting the big picture.

 

[Edward]

I just want clear instructions from God and hear his voice. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Scripture is full of clear instructions from God.

 

[Edward]

I just want clear instructions from God and hear his voice. I don't think that's too much to ask.

God wants you to read His Word. Not too much to ask. The owners manual of life, and you refuse to...yet will basically put demands on Him...?

Good luck with that.

 

[Free]

Not a single place in your quote did you identify anything in Scripture that says the Scriptures are the final or only authority. Yes, Scripture says the man of God needs Scripture to be complete. That doesn't mean Scripture is the only authority, it just means Scripture is important for being completely equipped for every good work.

It rather goes without saying that since the books of the Bible are all inspired by God--they say what God wants them to say; they are the words of God--that there is no higher authority. There is absolutely no need for the Bible to say that it is the final authority in order for it to be the final authority. A few other passages worth mentioning:

Deut. 4:2, "You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I command you." (ESV)

Deut. 12:32, "Everything that I command you, you shall be careful to do. You shall not add to it or take from it." (ESV)

Rev. 22:18-19, "18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book." (ESV)

It really seems that God doesn't like people adding (or subtracting) from his Word, which indicates that the Bible is the highest authority.

What higher authority do you think there is? Or what other authority or authorities do you think there are?

Before there was a printing press it was impossible for most people to own their own Bible and most people were illiterate anyway.

Right.

The Apostles operated under the influence of the Holy Spirit. They didn't carry a Bible nor did they ever pass out a Bible and they didn't go around making copies of Scripture to hand out to people.

It was very expensive to make copies of anything back then, so of course there wouldn't be copies for most people. The Apostles were taught directly by Christ himself and were used by God to initially spread the gospel, set the foundations of the Church, teach right doctrine and practice, etc. So while the Apostles "operated under the influence of the Holy Spirit," what we have as a result, are what the Bible itself calls inspired writings.

 

[matt1917]

God wants you to read His Word. Not too much to ask. The owners manual of life, and you refuse to...yet will basically put demands on Him...?

Good luck with that.

I've read the Bible...in fact I read it yesterday and will read it again today. I want to give people more than reciting something I've read in the book. It is the Holy Spirit I'm looking for. The Apostles were filled with the Holy Spirit, and that was how they reached people. They didn't have a Bible and almost everyone was illiterate at the time anyway. It is the spirit of God that I'm seeking. Without the Holy-Spirit, the Bible does me little good. The Bible divides people. In fact, the Bible comes from the Catholic Church. It was Roman Catholic Bishops at the Councils of Rome, Carthage, and Hippo that put together the first Bible.

If you don't trust the Church, you might ask yourself why do you trust your Bible? How do you know the Church didn't make a mistake in putting together the correct New Testament Canon or tamper with it?

 

[matt1917]

Numbers 15
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day.33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.

35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.

I can't get over how psychotic it is to kill someone for working on the wrong day of the week! It's just crazy! Not to mention, Moses was a murderer. That is worse than breaking sabbath. Why not stone him. King David had his right hand man killed so he could get away with impregnating his wife. That is FAR worse than picking up sticks on Sabbath. He should have been stoned.

 

[Brother Mike]

Numbers 15
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day.33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.

35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.

I can't get over how psychotic it is to kill someone for working on the wrong day of the week! It's just crazy! Not to mention, Moses was a murderer. That is worse than breaking sabbath. Why not stone him. King David had his right hand man killed so he could get away with impregnating his wife. That is FAR worse than picking up sticks on Sabbath. He should have been stoned.

1) Sin is Sin. There is no sin worse than other sin except sin where you purposely disobey God with a knowing heart. It's a serious matter to be rebellious and disobey God. You did not read the whole thing, you cherry pick things to make your standard higher than God and your standard is very far below God's it's not even on the radar.

Read the whole passage!!!
Num 15:24 Then it shall be, if ought be committed by ignorance without the knowledge of the congregation, that all the congregation shall offer one young bullock for a burnt offering, for a sweet savour unto the LORD, with his meat offering, and his drink offering, according to the manner, and one kid of the goats for a sin offering.

2) Moses broke which law for Murder?
Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

3) David paid dearly for his actions. He did not get away with anything.

t is the spirit of God that I'm seeking. Without the Holy-Spirit, the Bible does me little good.

Until you get this turned around, you will experience little of the Holy Spirit.. He brings to remembrance things God said. That is how He helps. Your attitude about God, His Word needs to change immediately. You can't grieve the Holy Spirit and expect any response from Him. It's Satan and His Kingdom that Hates God, Hates the Word. Satan twist scriptures, ignore's others and speaks them out of context. It's Satan that kills, and hurts people, not God.

If you continue to take Satan's Side, that is the outcome you will get. You think you have it rough now? Keep up with the nonsense your spewing.

 

[Edward]

If you don't trust the Church, you might ask yourself why do you trust your Bible? How do you know the Church didn't make a mistake in putting together the correct New Testament Canon or tamper with it?

Luke 21:33

First off, God revealed to me the truth of His existance, then scripture says His Word will never pass away, so it's reasonable to believe that He could get a good copy into my hands.

That would be God's responsibility to get His Word into my hands, and I doubt that He'd fail in that. So I can trust it. Simple as that.

 

[Edward]

You know, if you don't have any humility or humble yourself before God, I doubt you'll ever hear from Him.

 

[Wrg1405]

I've read the Bible. No such book is going to help me. I need the Holy Spirit, not a book. If the Holy Spirit is willing to guide me, I'll follow. Otherwise, May I die soon, in Jesus name!

I fully get and understand where you are coming from. The bible is just a book to be read. However if you are a Christian then it's the Holy Spirit who will open your eyes to the truth in the bible. The Holy Spirit is given to us when we place our faith in Jesus that's his remit to convict/convince that Jesus is who he says he is. If we do not have the Holy Spirit in us then the bible is just a book.

So if the Holy Spirit has done his job as such then he is in you. He is in you to reveal the Father and if you seek the Father he will reveal him to you.

I asked God to keep the Devil away many times. God could easily answer such a request. God wants some people enslaved to the Devil. That is the mystery I'll never understand, but is obviously true!

Once again I get where you are coming from but it's not true. God doesn't want people to be enslaved to the devil.
Yes he may allow resistant people to him to walk in the ways they want to, rejecting him and therefore choose to be ensnared by the devil. But when a person turns to God the truth is the devil has no hold of us. Jesus made sure of that on the cross when he said "It is finished"

My heart isn't closed though. I'm seeking God. All I care about and my only interest is knowing God's will and doing it, I'm just currently left in darkness and confusion and there is nothing I can do about it but ask God to take it away and currently his answer is "no."

Once again I get where you are coming from. Suffered with severe gambling problem for many many years.
Asked God to take it away all those years. I was healed 5 years ago. I would have to say that God only healed when I sought God for who is, not to resolve my issues. What set me free? My gambling problem led me to place of works based salvation. I was in a trap, snare "If i please God by not sinning then he will love me and I'll be acceptable"

What set me free? I can't please God by my works. I'm set free because of what Jesus did, once again the Holy Spirit revealing that to me.

It did take a while but that's Gods timing.

If you want to know God will for you then it is this.

John 6:29

Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

Mark 16:17-18King James Version (KJV)
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

John 14:13 ►
And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Matthew 7:7 ►
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

Matthew 17:20 ►
Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

John 14:12
“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.

When God is willing to be faithful to his word, I shall believe that the Bible is the truth. Until then, the Bible just fills me with rage!

Not wishing to upset you or question you but you quote texts from the bible. Have you looked at the text and put it into the context of the time? There are bible verses that seem to contradict but if we research they can be resolved.

My friend I truly understand where you are coming from. Although I wasn't enraged with God but I was sure angry.
But I'm trying this message to you. The stuff we struggle with goes deeper than we think. Our anger with God or fear of him is deeper than we think and there is root to it.

I'm happy to walk with you.

I'm going to leave you with the following

John 17:23
I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Note Jesus says that you know that God loves you as much as he loves Jesus, that was the love that nailed him to the cross. It's true whether you feel it or not.

Your brother Bill

 

[Edward]

I've read the Bible...in fact I read it yesterday and will read it again today. I want to give people more than reciting something I've read in the book. It is the Holy Spirit I'm looking for. The Apostles were filled with the Holy Spirit, and that was how they reached people. They didn't have a Bible and almost everyone was illiterate at the time anyway. It is the spirit of God that I'm seeking. Without the Holy-Spirit, the Bible does me little good. The Bible divides people. In fact, the Bible comes from the Catholic Church. It was Roman Catholic Bishops at the Councils of Rome, Carthage, and Hippo that put together the first Bible.

If you don't trust the Church, you might ask yourself why do you trust your Bible? How do you know the Church didn't make a mistake in putting together the correct New Testament Canon or tamper with it?

I've been thinking about your situation and it's clear that you are on the right track in that you seek the Holy Spirit. To speak to you, to lead you and guide you. Then I realized the problem, and the problem is...oh ye of little faith.

Now don't misunderstand, I'm not saying that you don't have enough faith, because you do. We're all given the same measure of faith. You have as much faith as Paul, or any of the Apostles.

What (is meant) I mean by, oh ye of little faith, is oh ye of no persevering faith. Little faith does not persevere, great faith does persevere.

The difference between us today and those spiritual giants in the Bible, is we give up too easily, which is not walking in faith. Not persevering...

Those spiritual giants of old would persevere. God recognizes this and will act.

Before Paul was raised up unto the gentiles, there was a gentile woman with an issue of blood. She thought to herself, if I can only touch the hem of His garment, I will be made whole...so she made her way through the crowd, reached up, and touched His garment. Jesus recognized this immediately and said who touched me? (He had felt the power flow out of Him!)

She reached into the future and took hold of a promise.
The Canaanite woman too, Lord help my daughter (Matthew 15), but since the time of the gentiles had not yet come, Jesus told her, it's not meet to give the children's bread to the dogs. She said yeah, but even the dogs eat the crumbs which fall from the Masters table, so Jesus recognized her great (persevering) faith and it was so.

She stood up to Jesus (respectfully) after He had basically just insulted her. She persevered.

Persevere brother, and you'll find Him. Keep reading

 

[smaller]

Numbers 15
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day.33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.

35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.

I can't get over how psychotic it is to kill someone for working on the wrong day of the week! It's just crazy! Not to mention, Moses was a murderer. That is worse than breaking sabbath. Why not stone him. King David had his right hand man killed so he could get away with impregnating his wife. That is FAR worse than picking up sticks on Sabbath. He should have been stoned.

I'd say you see waaayyy more than the average viewer in the above Matt. And yes, you are right. Moses and David were both sinners, and killed others, vilely so in the case of David, premeditated murder.

Congratulations.

 

[Edward]

There's a guy named Todd White, who has lots of healing videos on YouTube. His is a great testimony.

He read, these signs will follow those who believe, so he hit the streets to pray for people and get them healed. He testified that only after 500 failures did people start to get healed. That's perseverance! Most people may try once or twice, and give up, with thought of, eh it doesn't work.

But he hung in there, kept believing, kept praying...until breakthrough.

We must do the same. We have to step out in faith, believing, and it will be so.

Peter couldn't walk on water until he got out of the boat.

 

[Politico]

By the title of this thread you are probably assuming I'm a troll, but rather, I'm listing a prayer intention.

I pray all the time in Jesus name and am a Christian by Faith, but have an extreme hatred for God and I don't know what to do about it so registered at this site to ask for prayers.

I'm diagnosed shizoaffective, chemically dependent, and I hate God for not healing me, giving me a healthy mind and emotions, and not protecting me from the Devil and refusing to guide me or give me wisdom and understanding (Despite praying for it thousands of times over the years). I have prayed for God's will to be done in my life thousands of times and I've reached a point where I believe it is God's will that the Devil torment me without cease and that I serve the Devil.

I've lived my life in and out of jails and mental institutions. I'm currently in a residential treatment center IRTS facility, before that I was homeless. I attempted suicide by laying down in front of an oncoming train. The train conductor stopped the train and had me arrested.

I also spent 11 months in jail and am on probation for 7 years for stabbing someone twice with a butcher knife. It's been a miserable, confusing, depressing, delusional life and I wish my mother would have aborted me. I hate God for giving me life.

I'm to the point I believe abortion is often a good thing because many of those babies would have come from broken homes and grown up to experience this misery and they are lucky they were spared it.

I just want to die and pray for death often but am too scared of what will be other side if I kill myself. I appreciate your prayers. I'm often filled with rage and blasphemies and want to hurt God. I've had deliverance prayers prayed over me but nothing seems to work. Still, your prayers are appreciated. Thanks. God bless!

As you have probably determined by now, you are more than likely demon-possessed. Many Christians believe it is impossible to be genuinely saved and at the same time demon-possessed. I strongly disagree. I have witnessed evidence to the contrary. You need deliverance. Remember that Jesus Himself came to the Demoniac and delivered him (Mark chapter 5). What Christian works was the Demoniac man capable of? Did he earn deliverance? No, he did not. Was he crying out to God for deliverance in his tormented state. Yes, more than likely. Christ Himself can appear to you and set you free, or he can send someone to you and set you free. But there remains the possibility that you are not genuinely saved. By that I am referring to being "born again" in Christ. I think it important that Christians understand that we should not be seeking deliverance from torment first and foremost; we should be seeking to love the Lord and seeking his Kingdom first. But how can you love the love the Lord if you are not genuinely saved? If you are genuinely saved (justified in the work of the cross), then are you asking the Lord to remove the hate you have for Him and replace it with God-endowed love? If not, then you had better do that now.

I had a relative that was being mentally tormented by devils. She was genuinely possessed. Another relative went on a fast and then prayed for her. Those devils spoke through this tormented relative--saying things that this relative could not have possibly known--and her eyes transformed and looked like the eyes of a wolf. The devil(s) called itself the "strongman" but eventually came out and the relative was delivered from her torment. God still delivers. You and this relative are "cut from the same cloth." She was no more deserving of deliverance than you are. However, she did believe that God could and would deliver her. What are you believing? If you believe not that God can and will deliver you, then I believe your situation will not improve. The greater your deliverance, the greater your testimony. You had better not try to kill yourself. You will end up in hell. At least you are not deceived in believing nothing horrifying awaits you if you do kill yourself. Your fear of killing yourself and what awaits such an action strongly suggests your situation is not hopeless. I will pray for you.

 

[Edward]

As you have probably determined by now, you are more than likely demon-possessed. Many Christians believe it is impossible to be genuinely saved and at the same time demon-possessed. I strongly disagree. I have witnessed evidence to the contrary. You need deliverance. Remember that Jesus Himself came to the demoniac and delivered him. What Christian works was that man capable of? Did he earn deliverance? No, he did not. Was he crying out to God for deliverance in his tormented state. Yes, more than likely. Christ Himself can appear to you and set you free, or he can send someone to you and set you free. But there remains the possibility that you are not genuinely saved. By that I am referring to being "born again" in Christ. I think it important that Christians understand that we should not be seeking deliverance from torment first and foremost; we should be seeking to love the Lord and seeking his Kingdom first. But how can you love the love the Lord if you are not genuine saved? If you are genuinely saved (justified in the work of the cross), then are you asking the Lord to remove the hate you have for Him and replace it with God-endowed love? If not, then you had better do that now.

I had a relative that was being mentally tormented by devils. She was genuinely possessed. Another relative went on a fast and then prayed for her. Those devils spoke through this tormented relative--saying things that this relative could not have possibly known--and her eyes transformed and looked like the eyes of a wolf. The devil(s) called itself the "strongman" but eventually came out and the relative was delivered from her torment. God still delivers. You and this relative are "cut from the same cloth." She was no more deserving of deliverance than you are. However, she did believe that God could and would deliver her. What are you believing? If you believe not that God can and will deliver you, then I believe your situation will not improve. The greater your deliverance, the greater your testimony. You had better not try to kill yourself. You will end up in hell. At least you are not deceived in believing nothing horrifying awaits you if you do kill yourself. Your fear of killing yourself and what awaits such an action strongly suggests your situation is not hopeless. I will pray for you.

(Paragraphs Brother, please!)

I agree with you, his actions and fears indicate that the Holy Spirit is working on him, convicting him.

Once delivered, his passions will likely run just as deep for the Lord.

 

[smaller]

I agree with you, his actions and fears indicate that the Holy Spirit is working on him, convicting him.

Obviously the guy is hearing some TRUTH from scripture. What he IS coming into contentions with, internally, that is bucking and screaming, is the indwelling sin and evil present that always "resists" Gods Words and His Christ. Romans 7:7-13, Romans 7:17-21, Gal. 3:22, Gal. 5:17.

And that, God will help him see, if God so chooses. No doubt the man is in contentions with Gods Words, without understandings.

Once delivered, his passions will likely run just as deep for the Lord.

The only option we are provided is to RULE OVER those thoughts of resistance and confrontations to God in Christ, in and by His Very Real Love and MERCY. Which I pray to Jesus, that Matt experiences, within. Matt is looking on the outside for signs, but the Spirit works INTERNALLY, so there he must go to find out.

 

[Edward]

Agreed.