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[ Testimony ] I was poisoned , nearly died and saw the Lord

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Cornelius

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Tuesday, 02 November 2010

On Sunday morning I was poisoned and nearly died. I grounded some fresh coffee beans (I used an old mill that came out of storage and apparently some of the left over coffee in the mill became toxic) and made myself a coffee .About fifteen minutes later I started feeling strange and then started what turned out to be the best experience of my life :)

My body started shutting down and I went into shock. I had a friend here visiting, but he knew that he was not allowed to take me to a hospital. We spoke about this last week ! I told him that I trusted the Lord with my life and that if I ever came to be in a life or death situation, he was to leave me alone. Well he listened. He was very concerned because my whole body was shaking and my eyes were moving very fast from side to side.

Then the Lord spoke and said : "Cornelius, this is only the beginning “I started quoting Scripture , my words were literally echoing , like in the movies . I started to loose my sight and then could hardly speak but I started praising the Lord for everything. My life so far, even for this what was happening to me. I kept on repeating God's promises to Him .Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. I could feel that the promises became like stepping stones to me.1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. Everything was dark around me, but the Word because very, very real to me . I was literally walking on it.Gen 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. I knew that I was not allowed to become fearful, because fear was negative faith in the enemy.

Suddenly I saw gates in front of me. Huge iron gates. I knew they were the gates of death.A voice told me to let go and enter, but I was really not in agreement with me dying right then ! I called out to the Lord for help and He came. I told Him that I do not want to die yet.

Suddenly I was with Jesus and we were standing in the eye of a hurricane. I could see the huge storm turning around us, but there was tremendous peace around me.From the bottom it looked like the pictures I saw of Katrina. Jesus laughed and said : " You have been here before" . This was true. Thirty years ago I also almost died as well and Jesus met me in the eye of the storm too. He healed me there. He said " You know , you can only come to this place through a storm such as this. You cannot get to the eye in any other way !" But then He lifted up His hand and held up a soap bubble that was hanging on a hair. He said : "Look, this is your life. Look how fragile it is. It’s My life in you." I said " Yes Lord, its fragile" He carried on swinging it in front of me saying :" Cornelius, fragile. Fragile. Treasure My life, walk gently on the earth" I knew what He meant. He was talking about losing the self life .

The self life come against His life and brings death to those who do not die to self. Those who do not walk in total surrender are walking according to their lusts. They are not walking in His righteousness.

Then I saw the Father. But He only showed one side of Himself to me. I saw His innocence and His love. He was not the angry God I thought He would be, He was laughing and loving. For the first time in my life I felt God loving me. His love towards His children is something that comes naturally from Him. It is Him, He is love ! His love was pouring out of Him and I could feel it.

He took the soap bubble and repeated what Jesus said. I saw that He loved the life that came from Him. He treasured it. He showed me how the enemy hurts Him through us, when we as Christians come against this gentle life that exists in righteousness alone. We do the work of the enemy when we move in unrighteousness. The Father said: "Treasure My life in you" and again: "Walk gently in this earth" He too was speaking about walking in righteousness.THen He said : "Cornelius choose life" Only later did I realize He was referring to ; Deut 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Choosing life is walking in the Spirit, that is not to believe your eyes above what the Word says. We have believe the Word and not our experiences.

We have to be aware of the fragility of life. I was made aware that we can indeed loose this gift. He wanted all of me. I had to lay down my life before Him if I wanted His life to exists in me. The Word kept me alive through all of this. Psalm 23 came spontaneously to me when things became very bad. I really walked through that Psalm. I went through the valley of the shadow of death. I knew this was His rod and staff and they were now here so that I would be eternally protected (if I listened). He was correcting me . Then I came to the green pastures and the still water, in the eye of the storm. Then He set a table before me in the midst of my enemy which was death. He fed me His Word , He loved me and He laughed . He alone was my Savior. A doctor would have robbed me of this .He heard my prayer. Just two weeks ago I prayed and said: "Lord, I need a near death experience in my life. I just know I do" Well He agreed and I knew when it started, that I was going to face death, but not alone. The Word was my shield and I clung to it. I would not have missed this for all the money in the world.

When I came back, my body took about a week to recover. I asked the Lord to confirm this experience to be through the Word and He did. I prayed and opened the Bible at Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; then I prayed and asked the Lord to give me a verse about the fragility of life. Again I just opened my Bible and it fell open at : Jas 4:14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

The Lord carried on speaking to me after this experience. He told me that He is going to shake everything, just like He shook my body. He is going to bring us all to a place where we are helpless, just like I was, when my body started shutting down. He told me that He is bringing us all into the place where we will only have the Word to rely and and that the Word will indeed become the only stepping stones we have. He showed me that we all must walk on the Word, if we want to get through to the eye of our storms. He is waiting in the eye, but He is also the Word on which we may rely in the storm.

Do not trust your circumstances, trust the Word. Do not look with your natural eyes, they will only make you fear ! Look with your spiritual eyes and....choose life ! Choose the Word and you will live !

blessings
C
 
Tuesday, 02 November 2010


Then I saw the Father. But He only showed one side of Himself to me. I saw His innocence and His love. He was not the angry God I thought He would be, He was laughing and loving. For the first time in my life I felt God loving me. His love towards His children is something that comes naturally from Him. It is Him, He is love ! His love was pouring out of Him and I could feel it.

Just curious here, why did you think God was going to be angry?

The Lord carried on speaking to me after this experience. He told me that He is going to shake everything, just like He shook my body. He is going to bring us all to a place where we are helpless, just like I was, when my body started shutting down. He told me that He is bringing us all into the place where we will only have the Word to rely and and that the Word will indeed become the only stepping stones we have. He showed me that we all must walk on the Word, if we want to get through to the eye of our storms. He is waiting in the eye, but He is also the Word on which we may rely in the storm.

Do not trust your circumstances, trust the Word. Do not look with your natural eyes, they will only make you fear ! Look with your spiritual eyes and....choose life ! Choose the Word and you will live !

blessings
C
That is incredible, I've read this about 7 times now. ha
God has shown me this about 20 times, over the past couple of weeks, that we can not use our senses because of what you just said about fear. My prayer is to grow in faith like this.
 
That is incredible, I've read this about 7 times now. ha
God has shown me this about 20 times, over the past couple of weeks, that we can not use our senses because of what you just said about fear. My prayer is to grow in faith like this.

Me, too, Rockie! God is showing me this same thing. Amen!
 
C!
This is so amazing, thank you so much for sharing with us, it's a blessing to me and a faith builder!

Like I mentioned to Rockie in a previous post, God is showing me how senses can trap us into fear and doubt, looking with our spiritual eyes brings us to the place where God can work.

Praise Him!
 
Cornelius. I have to admit, this is a very interesting story to say the least. You have been around me long enough to know I am a detail kind of guy. And being such, I get hung up on something.

All through the OT and the NT when someone would see the person of God or Christ there was immediate fear and humility. So much so that there is always recorded that the individual showed it some way or another. If it was not shown, then it was required of them to, as in the case with Moses and the bush.

I cannot help to see that this is completely missing from your recount of the story. I would not find it so odd, if it was not simply because every account in the Bible it is recorded as such. Do you find it odd? Or is there an explanation of this that you have considered? I find it interesting and would like to see if you have contemplated it before.
 
The Lord carried on speaking to me after this experience. He told me that He is going to shake everything, just like He shook my body. He is going to bring us all to a place where we are helpless, just like I was, when my body started shutting down. He told me that He is bringing us all into the place where we will only have the Word to rely and and that the Word will indeed become the only stepping stones we have. He showed me that we all must walk on the Word, if we want to get through to the eye of our storms. He is waiting in the eye, but He is also the Word on which we may rely in the storm.

C, Rocky, and Whitney, I 4th that I have been hearing this same exact thing from the Lord through my Christian friends. My pastors have even prophesied this at church! :o

Thank you for sharing this Cornelius! This was a beautiful testimony.

PS: I am going to move your thread to the testimony sub forum.
 
Cornelius. I have to admit, this is a very interesting story to say the least. You have been around me long enough to know I am a detail kind of guy. And being such, I get hung up on something.

All through the OT and the NT when someone would see the person of God or Christ there was immediate fear and humility. So much so that there is always recorded that the individual showed it some way or another. If it was not shown, then it was required of them to, as in the case with Moses and the bush.

I cannot help to see that this is completely missing from your recount of the story. I would not find it so odd, if it was not simply because every account in the Bible it is recorded as such. Do you find it odd? Or is there an explanation of this that you have considered? I find it interesting and would like to see if you have contemplated it before.

Nathan, I have no answer for you regarding this, other than I know that this whole experience was controlled by the Lord. Even me having the faith to go through this was a gift. The experience was in the spirit and I am sure that if I had to see the Lord in the flesh, then I would not be able to stand. None of us would. In the spirit I was only given to see certain things. The Father was not shown as I have said, there was only a sliver of an opening. Jesus was there as a person, but I would not be able to draw His face for you. I could see the storm as clear as anything. I experienced Him more than seeing him in what we call "seeing" with our fleshly eyes. Difficult to describe.

The experience was meant as a lesson and correction.The Lord changed me and how I was thinking through this. He has carried on speaking to me and revealing more truth, through this experience even though it was not so long in human time.I was apparently gone for about two hours. But it felt like five minutes to me.
 
C, Rocky, and Whitney, I 4th that I have been hearing this same exact thing from the Lord through my Christian friends. My pastors have even prophesied this at church! :o

Thank you for sharing this Cornelius! This was a beautiful testimony.

PS: I am going to move your thread to the testimony sub forum.

Thanks for moving it to the right place :)

Yes , we can see how the shaking is starting in the physical all through the planet. We are also seeing God shaking some churches through scandals. Our personal lives will be shaken as well. All our doctrines are going to be tested. Everything we believe is going to go through the fire of testing. God is going to burn away all our wood hay and stubble that we have been building with.

Humans add leaven to the Word of God. We add our doctrines. During the Tribulation, which is upon us very soon now, no leaven will be allowed. God is more serious about the Word than we think. He places the Word higher than His won name.Psa 138:2 ....For thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

In type, we see the seven days here as pointing to the Tribulation :

Exo 12:15 Seven days (seven years of tribulation) shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

It makes sense. If the Word alone will keep us, then any leaven added will rob the Word of its power to save and protect us ! Like the stepping stones in my testimony. They had to the Word only. I could not afford for them to be full of leaven. The pure Word kept me alive.
 
Just curious here, why did you think God was going to be angry?
Its a "left over picture" that God wanted to correct in me. I use to see the Father like I saw my own human father. Not that my father use to be a very angry man, but he was angry "inside" . My human father gave me the wrong picture of what a real father is, and God wanted to correct that , :)
 
Nathan, I have no answer for you regarding this, other than I know that this whole experience was controlled by the Lord. Even me having the faith to go through this was a gift. The experience was in the spirit and I am sure that if I had to see the Lord in the flesh, then I would not be able to stand. None of us would. In the spirit I was only given to see certain things. The Father was not shown as I have said, there was only a sliver of an opening. Jesus was there as a person, but I would not be able to draw His face for you. I could see the storm as clear as anything. I experienced Him more than seeing him in what we call "seeing" with our fleshly eyes. Difficult to describe.

The experience was meant as a lesson and correction.The Lord changed me and how I was thinking through this. He has carried on speaking to me and revealing more truth, through this experience even though it was not so long in human time.I was apparently gone for about two hours. But it felt like five minutes to me.

So your best thought of why you seem to have had such a different 'experience' was because you were not inhabiting human flesh? Interesting. I still find it odd that John, the disciple that "Jesus loved", one of the twelve that was very intimate with Christ, in his spirit, still fell down to worship Jesus. In fact, when John was giving his account of heaven he specifies that people who were there are 'falling down' before the throne. Not only this, but when we see accounts of people 'visiting' heaven, there is constant worship and adoration going on by the people there. You did not mention, when you saw a glimpse of what you claim to be God, was there anyone worshiping him?

John specifically states that He was in the Spirit when he received the Revelation. He was not in the flesh at any point. Yet the one who walked with Christ for years, who laid on the Saviors very breast, was so struck with awe and humility at the presence of His Master, that he fell down to worship Him several times. All through the account of his witness of the prophecy, numerous times he fell down to worship. Your account names not one, and not one of anyone worshiping the Father or the Son.

You say we should only rely on the Word. But the word is in stark contrast to your words. Does this not seem odd to you?
 
Nathan,
Have you ever heard of other people's near death experiences? For some reason, they are not like what John experienced either, and who knows why this is? I did read one where beings were worshipping God, another one was of a small child who said he walked hand in hand with Jesus, another was a child dying from cancer in the hospital and he said Jesus was there, along with angels. Others are sent the other way and when they come back they completely dedicate their lives to the Lord. There is a reason God allows people to experience these, they are not our experiences, but they bring the image back and we can learn from them and be blessed. Of course, some are not legit, while others are.

Whatever your opinion is, the message C is delivering in his testimony is the knowledge we can receive from it, the image of the soap bubble lesson is Bibical and that is what we can take away. Maybe we don't believe one part of something, while missing out on the entire point of what God is trying to show us.

Blessings -
 
I have heard of those experiences. You say from your own admission that some are false. How do we know they are false? Would it not be from a comparison to a known truth? C says from his own admission that this 'known truth' is the word of God. So would it not be reasonable that we compare to it?

I ask this not be taken the wrong way. Satan takes seemingly truths and presents them as THE truth. But we know that truth mixed with lies is not truth at all. I find his story as odd just the same way I find others odd also. If we do not examine things the way the are presented then what's the use? Did Jude write his letter in vain? Did Paul spend his time in vain? Is every man left to his own determination of what to think about God? Or do we have a less than adequate account of who God is and what He wants?
 
The very 'lesson' you say can be derived from this account is indeed similar to what the wisest human also conveyed. But what do we see as the determined "end of the matter"? Look it up in Ecc 12:13-14.

How does it compare to the account that is given by C?
 
I have heard of those experiences. You say from your own admission that some are false. How do we know they are false? Would it not be from a comparison to a known truth? C says from his own admission that this 'known truth' is the word of God. So would it not be reasonable that we compare to it?

I ask this not be taken the wrong way. Satan takes seemingly truths and presents them as THE truth. But we know that truth mixed with lies is not truth at all. I find his story as odd just the same way I find others odd also. If we do not examine things the way the are presented then what's the use? Did Jude write his letter in vain? Did Paul spend his time in vain? Is every man left to his own determination of what to think about God? Or do we have a less than adequate account of who God is and what He wants?

To be honest, I do not know if some of them are false or not, perhaps they are all true, but I can tell you, that I did know that child who ended up dying of cancer, and he did not even go to church, he was 11 years old and he said Jesus was in the room, along with angels, now we can look back into the Bible and see if we can find somewhere, in which Jesus is in someone's hospital room, in say the gospel of Mark LOL, but it's not there. For some reason, just as C's experience, God allowed the little boy to see Jesus.

Of course you can question what people say, and I do know that is what you are doing, I was just simply providing more information to help you, although, maybe I am spending my time in vain. :)
 
The very 'lesson' you say can be derived from this account is indeed similar to what the wisest human also conveyed. But what do we see as the determined "end of the matter"? Look it up in Ecc 12:13-14.

How does it compare to the account that is given by C?

I did look up Ecc, and yes, I am not one of those wisest humans, so I am not sure what your point is with that scripture. Can you give more of an explanation of what you are trying to say?
Thanks.
 
Not so in vain. I do understand what you are saying. Yes, I ask questions. I do not take into my heart things that I am not sure of. This is how I avoid that trap. It is not meant to offend anyone, or condemn anyone. Neither is it to judge ones motives. In fact, if anything, it shows a desire to understand the person better.

This account, and the things that have been said about it, just do not line up with the Bible. No, I am not saying that because of the "bubble" or the details like that. If we wanted to get technical, we have absolutely no accounts of children seeing Christ or God in their glorified states. So in that regard, who is to say that the child you speak of truly did not see Christ.

I do know what the Bible speaks about the end times. I do know that the Word of God specifically states that He will send "strong delusions". If anything could it not be that I am concerned that people have/are being led into delusions of Satan? We have a direct account of what God requires of us, wants from us, desires from us, and does for us.

Why we have so quickly in these last times found the need to 'accept' reports of Jesus being here and being there is beyond me. Why we in these last times have so quickly forgotten what the Lord prophesied would happen is beyond me. I have not, so therefore I will ask questions and test the spirit to see whether it is from God or not.
 
I did look up Ecc, and yes, I am not one of those wisest humans, so I am not sure what your point is with that scripture. Can you give more of an explanation of what you are trying to say?
Thanks.

My apologies. It should have been more adequately said to look at the whole of chapter 12, with the emphasis on verses 13-14.

Ecc 12:1-14 Remember also your Creator in the days of your youth, before the evil days come and the years draw near of which you will say, "I have no pleasure in them"; before the sun and the light and the moon and the stars are darkened and the clouds return after the rain, in the day when the keepers of the house tremble, and the strong men are bent, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those who look through the windows are dimmed, and the doors on the street are shut--when the sound of the grinding is low, and one rises up at the sound of a bird, and all the daughters of song are brought low-- they are afraid also of what is high, and terrors are in the way; the almond tree blossoms, the grasshopper drags itself along, [fn] and desire fails, because man is going to his eternal home, and the mourners go about the streets-- before the silver cord is snapped, or the golden bowl is broken, or the pitcher is shattered at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern, and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher; all is vanity. Besides being wise, the Preacher also taught the people knowledge, weighing and studying and arranging many proverbs with great care. The Preacher sought to find words of delight, and uprightly he wrote words of truth. The words of the wise are like goads, and like nails firmly fixed are the collected sayings; they are given by one Shepherd.

My son, beware of anything beyond these. Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh. The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil.


I am not concerned with trying to figure out so much whether or not this is 'good' or 'evil'. God will bring it into judgement and decide Himself. My concern is with what implications it has on Cornelius and those who read. While it is a wonderful story, we need nothing more to 'add' too God's Word. We need no proof, no witness, no more added knowledge. The end has been declared from the beginning. Fear God and keep His commandments. Where does this fit into Cornelius's dream?
 
There seems to be a very interesting thread that is woven through not only this account but all the others. And that is a fixation on the dust that man lives in. The human flesh. This is not man. This is what man inhabits. This fixation on the flesh does not, will not, bring about a greater faith in God.
 
Thank you for the clarification, Nathan. I do understand more clearly now your questions and concerns.

God's knowledge is infinite, meaning we will always be learning, there is no way we can know all of God's knowledge and He gives knowledge to those who seek Him. I'm sure we could agree on this, correct?

My question to you is, what new or added knowledge is C bringing to the table with this testimony? Do you see something in his testimony that can not be found in the Word (and I am speaking specifically of what he learned, not the images he saw), what has he added?

As far as no more witness, it could be true, but this kind of witnessing to me is not "new". We all have people in our lives in which God has worked some sort of miracle, given some revelation (not new, maybe more of a confirmation) and we just KNOW it is from God, this is simply what is happening here, imo.

You are trying to fit a person's experience within the mind set of God is quiet now because it is all done, forgive me if this is not what you are saying, however it seems it is and I can assure you God is not quiet. He gives us signs and wonders consistently IF we are aware, we will see them. I have seen healings, I have heard other people's dreams - these are not contradictory to the Word, they are a confirmation, a comforting factor, and helps in our growing in faith and knowledge of Jesus Christ.
 
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