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Many took to twitter Saturday mentioning, "if God answers prayer these people would not have been killed. What do you think?
 
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That is simple! Jesus taught us this would never be a Cake Walk. In fact he taught us there would always be persecution. John was boiled alive in oil. Then he was not harmed giving him the grounding to be a truth from God as the basis for a positive viewable result of obeying God. We must learn from the scriptures. Every word of the scriptures are good for study.(2Tim, 2:16-17) I have studied these past 27+ years ad have been given certain points and principals I work to build into daily Walk with the Christ.

An important one I received during my on-going tutelage under the Holy Spirit is that there were no Magic Markers, can you imagine such a horrible condition? And God wanted to highlight some of the things because they really matter.

But God being God was not deterred, now when you read and pay attention to what you're reading it becomes clear that God has highlighted some points of scripture by repeating them in other parts and books in the I can only scriptures.

If you read a thing twice it is highlighted as important. If it is repeated three times it is very important and if it is repeated 365 times, I can only marvel at the man, and his bible study that dug that deeply to find the Command not to worry but how important is that? I do my best to live that way, should we all not do so? I once walked away from a drunk with a 3 inch S&W with him threatening to shoot and as I walked up the stairs on the side of the brick building he fired all six rounds, splattering shads of brick on the stair case. Did it scare me, I a fool not to be frightened but to stand there, less than four foot from the muzzle of that .38 because it is a tight quarters weapon and so I did not run nor did I sit there and worry about it. I remained calm and just walked and he went to jail and had his piece removed from him, I still carried mine. the Officers were amazed.

God does not want unbelieving wooses in Heaven and He will not interfere before the Millennial Reign but He does want strong, unmovable faith and these things, foretold us by God, must be for now.
 
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Many of them are boorish atheist trolls, people who love to play this silly game because they believe it drapes them in the shroud of intellectualism when actually they are nothing more than boorish trolls. Others are satanist, a group of whom most would, and I am sure are, quite happy this event happened to a group of Christians. Of course many atheist today are just as happy, but then the two terms in use here are often synonymous.
 
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I think anti-Christian sentiment is becoming more intense in much of the world, including much of the US. I used to think it was just because so many Christians are conservative, but...I've seen and heard snarky comments about all kinds of Christians, so...its pretty much an anti-Jesus sentiment that's becoming more acceptable and more widespread.

We are "in the world, but not of it," and sadly...violence like this is becoming more and more a part of American life. Its the world we live in, it seems. Plus, Jesus never promised us a rose garden, as another poster pointed out.
 
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Many took to twitter Saturday mentioning, "if God answers prayer these people would not have been killed. What do you think?
God's sovereign plan is not something we can every imagine with our limited human consciousness. However, since I do not use social media, I would counter them and ask why do they think prayer can stop bullets?
While Christian's know that such evil unfolding upon the faithful is heart breaking to read about. And impossible to fathom if one knows any of these victims. And yet, as we pray on either side of that equation we of faith are assured the faithful innocent who fell to this man's wickedness are with God now.
If the Twitter people need an answer perhaps it is this.

And that while we grieve for their loss from this life they shared with friends and family , the tears fall only so long as needed so the pool of sorrow refills . That one day it will spilleth over as tears of joy when we see them again as we join there with them and the Father of us all. And that dear Twitter is the answer within those prayers.
:pray

God's peace upon the fallen. His strength for recovery of the injured. And his justice for the one that made all that necessary.
 

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Romans 1:28-32 "And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."
 
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That they'd even try condemns them, not Christians nor our faith. That they'd think to go that route in the wake of this sorrow tells us they need Christ. And until then? Attention.
I forget how evil the human heart can be till I go to twitter or Facebook and actually read what comes out of some people's hearts.
 
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Many took to twitter Saturday mentioning, "if God answers prayer these people would not have been killed. What do you think?
Well, I try to avoid responding to stupid questions posed by people who don't need answers because they already know everything.
I also try not to bother with people who ,rather than an answer, just want an excuse not to submit to the truth.

but that's just me....

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I forget how evil the human heart can be till I go to twitter or Facebook and actually read what comes out of some people's hearts.
The anonymity factor of the Net affords opportunity for devils to dance across the web. Such does not see, nor does it care, how words hurt people. Such one's feed on thinking they've impacted the target of their animus with foul words.
It is why I don't participate in social media sites such as Facebook, Twitter, and the like. That would make it easier to later persuade them to not consider all the new methods of surveillance upon their personal lives at home. What's to hide? They're already dropping the shades surrounding their personal information.

Social media has also over time persuaded people to surrender their personal privacy. Notice that?People on social media sites drop the shades on their personal information as a matter of course in sharing with their followers. Seeking more and more likes.

This makes it no big thing , no thing to consider, when technology arrives that promises to make life easier, while also being able to spy on the consumer. But what's to hide? When social media types are already more than happy to share their personal life to a world wide web of strangers.


That's not the only realm wherein devils enjoy their games. The Net provides them opportunity to scout and assail the world. (wide web)
 
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The anonymity factor of the Net affords opportunity for devils to dance across the web. Such does not see, nor does it care, how words hurt people. Such one's feed on thinking they've impacted the target of their animus with foul words.
It is why I don't participate in social media sites such as Facebook, Twitter, and the like. That would make it easier to later persuade them to not consider all the new methods of surveillance upon their personal lives at home. What's to hide? They're already dropping the shades surrounding their personal information.

Social media has also over time persuaded people to surrender their personal privacy. Notice that?People on social media sites drop the shades on their personal information as a matter of course in sharing with their followers. Seeking more and more likes.

This makes it no big thing , no thing to consider, when technology arrives that promises to make life easier, while also being able to spy on the consumer. But what's to hide? When social media types are already more than happy to share their personal life to a world wide web of strangers.


That's not the only realm wherein devils enjoy their games. The Net provides them opportunity to scout and assail the world. (wide web)
I don't use facebook much, but I use twitter lots. But yeah social media hacks your personal information and sells it to advertisers.
 
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Many took to twitter Saturday mentioning, "if God answers prayer these people would not have been killed. Many of the disciplesWhat do you think?
Most of the disciples were martyred. Christ was crucified. All these and more have been suffered by Christians. The incident in Texas was not about Christians being martyred. The Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. This present trend in mass murders, skin heads, anarchist, black lives matter, etc. can easily be contributed to two things. President Ronald Reagan closed all the mental Institutes and put the patients out on the street. and it is still that way today. The other thing is the negative atmosphere we live in under the progressive, radical and anti christian, anti American, anti Constitutional news media and Hollywood actors promoting everything that we know is sinful and shoving it down or throats along with a government that is more corrupt than the drug cartels. The lying news media puts me in a depressed mood every time I hear it. Imagine what it does to the emotionally unstable who live in a society that has no moral values.
 
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Many took to twitter Saturday mentioning, "if God answers prayer these people would not have been killed. What do you think?
My question is how do folks who don't believe in Jesus cope with untimely or tragic death .. My second question is if those folks that question God, how do they know if some of those blaming God were not called to pray but neglected their call and will be held to account ..
 
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Most of the disciples were martyred. Christ was crucified. All these and more have been suffered by Christians. The incident in Texas was not about Christians being martyred. The Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. This present trend in mass murders, skin heads, anarchist, black lives matter, etc. can easily be contributed to two things. President Ronald Reagan closed all the mental Institutes and put the patients out on the street. and it is still that way today. The other thing is the negative atmosphere we live in under the progressive, radical and anti christian, anti American, anti Constitutional news media and Hollywood actors promoting everything that we know is sinful and shoving it down or throats along with a government that is more corrupt than the drug cartels. The lying news media puts me in a depressed mood every time I hear it. Imagine what it does to the emotionally unstable who live in a society that has no moral values.
I agree, but I still believe we are the most medicated society out there. For mental issues as well as other issues. There is no lack of mental health clinics in america. Unlike that in reagans day.
 
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I think maybe its because God does not guarentee anyone anything in this life. He does not guarentee wealth, health, a long life, whatever.
 
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Many took to twitter Saturday mentioning, "if God answers prayer these people would not have been killed. What do you think?
I think we killed God's only Son.

Anyway, our notion is "life at all costs" while the Gospel (Good News) tells us that it is our responsibility to be miracles in other's lives and not nightmares. We are to build God's Kingdom here on earth. The question should be not how God has failed us, but how have we failed God ?

Back to our notion of "life at all costs" - I think God has higher priorities and callings. If I did not believe that then I feel there would be zero point for being a Christian in the first place.
 
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I agree, but I still believe we are the most medicated society out there. For mental issues as well as other issues. There is no lack of mental health clinics in america. Unlike that in reagans day.
Mental health clinics in California closed due to Governor Reagan in the 1960s. I am not certain how his views as president had while he was in office. What I do know is that by emptying the mental health patients out on to the streets, most patients went to the streets and then into the prison population. They were just recycled into another form of housing after committing crimes. I am certain though that Reagan's had an impact on the direction states took on mental health policy.

But it was not all Reagan's fault. Science was oversold. Politicians were led to believe that the advances in drugs were curing and treating the causes of mental health issues.
 
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