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...then why don't they do something proactive about it?

They other day I was watching this dude preach and totally respect the guy for his sincerity but at that particular time he was talking about something that religious people seem to be really into but never really do anything about.

Prayer and Bibles in public school.

I'm all for children learning God's advice in school in fact I started school in a Christian Academy then attended until 3rd grade when my ma couldn't afford to send me there anymore so she enrolled me in public school where I promptly started my academic career of skipping school which ultimately led to me dropping out all together.


Then I became a drug addict,fornicator,drug dealer, thief, liar... You get the picture I'm sure, I can't help pondering if I could have avoided that dark part of my life if my ma could have afforded the "full ride" in Christian Academy.

Now I'm thinking that if these folks who are always talking about teaching Christ in school would maybe lower their cost or better yet allow children to attend their Christian schools for free they would probably get the results that they desire.

Just a thought.
 
I don't know if Christian schools are going to be a huge help. Society has disintegrated. There's only so much any school can do to deal with widespread drug use, sexual immorality, lack of self-control, economic conditions, etc.
 
As noble as this sounds it still costs money. If you are wanting to solve the problem of people who cannot normally afford to send their kids to a private, Christian school then you will need to come up with a way to provide funds for their tuition. Private schools do not rely on government money, which is why it is so expensive to send kids there. Public school is "free" because the costs are covered by local property taxes and the like. To solve the high cost of private education you have to start with where the money is.
 
I agree but I was kinda referring to them talking about teaching religion in public schools the actual practice not the results, its like they are offended by that like they are being left out.

Well them along with the other major religion (Islam( are the richest people in the world so why can't they just let them kids in their schools where they charge instead of trying to force their doctrine on the tax payers?

Now like I says I'm all for God in school and that's because of my time in a Christian school.

I don't see why public school can't do something like have a partial day for religion like they do for race and nationality.

I remember that bilingual kids would go to another class for a hour or so every day and Native American kids would do the same.

I sound like I'm disparaging religious folk but I am not, I think that the dark dude is the reason for not teaching kid about God.

But at the same time these people who made money using God's name will not have their profit margin affected even for children yet they will try to force the tax payer to pay for their beliefs.
 
I do sometimes wonder why more Christian schools affiliated with larger, affluent denominations--Catholic schools, Presbyterian schools, Baptist schools, Episcopalian schools--don't try to get more lower income kids in their schools. Especially with the RCC, they've got tons of resources at their disposal.
 
Also this is their area of expertise and considering we are talking about religion they are where the money is at.

It's just that I hear these people talking all of the time but they fail to be proactive.
 
some people do make crazy money off of selling their version of Jesus. here locally, a former megachurch pastor's salary was kept secret, somehow, but it was estimated to be a couple hundred thousand per year. meanwhile, he regularly demanded 10%, cuz you know..."its in THE BIBLE!," or...something.

im just glad i dont have any kids. the future is not looking so bright for lot of people in these united states...
 
I agree but I was kinda referring to them talking about teaching religion in public schools the actual practice not the results, its like they are offended by that like they are being left out.

Well them along with the other major religion (Islam( are the richest people in the world so why can't they just let them kids in their schools where they charge instead of trying to force their doctrine on the tax payers?

Now like I says I'm all for God in school and that's because of my time in a Christian school.

I don't see why public school can't do something like have a partial day for religion like they do for race and nationality.

I remember that bilingual kids would go to another class for a hour or so every day and Native American kids would do the same.

I sound like I'm disparaging religious folk but I am not, I think that the dark dude is the reason for not teaching kid about God.

But at the same time these people who made money using God's name will not have their profit margin affected even for children yet they will try to force the tax payer to pay for their beliefs.
Because they would have to have a day for jews,muslims,etc too.pay or sponsor ,endorse one faith ,it must be them all or none.

We gave up,acts 2 didn't need roman apprival only willing souls
 
I know how you feel dude but it isn't going to happen due to the separation of church written about in the U.S Constitution unless you are from a different country. Anyway, I do believe in the Bill of Rights it speaks about the freedom of religion, so I don't see why public schools can't offer it as an elective course. If they try and force that ridiculous theory that we evolved from apes down our throats, then why do they get offended and accuse us of shoving our beliefs down their throats? The Pledge of Allegiance specifically states; "One nation under GOD, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." If they don't have a fit about having that be said in public schools, then why can't children have the right to discuss their beliefs freely?
 
I do sometimes wonder why more Christian schools affiliated with larger, affluent denominations--Catholic schools, Presbyterian schools, Baptist schools, Episcopalian schools--don't try to get more lower income kids in their schools. Especially with the RCC, they've got tons of resources at their disposal.
They do,grants happen aND my brother sent his two older kids to one .my county has these:

Up to 8th grade st Helens
St eds k to 12
Masters academy k to 12
Pioneer baptist ,k to 12 ?
Willow ,a christian gnostic church ,k to 12
 
Teachers unions and school board lawsuits have just about ruined public education.

So much so that possibly school vouchers and making school not compulsory any more would probably solve the problem.
If school isn't compulsory then attendance isn't mandatory.
School would become a privilege instead of a right.
Of course most of the low class welfare for those who didn't graduate school would have to be withheld.

It would be a very different School system afterwards.
 
Teachers unions and school board lawsuits have just about ruined public education.

So much so that possibly school vouchers and making school not compulsory any more would probably solve the problem.
If school isn't compulsory then attendance isn't mandatory.
School would become a privilege instead of a right.
Of course most of the low class welfare for those who didn't graduate school would have to be withheld.

It would be a very different School system afterwards.





Hmm,.. a world where you wouldn't have to go to school if you didn't want to. I would have jumped on that idea a hundred percent back when I was a kid and just play video games all day and or play outside if the weather was nice. You would be surprised how much I taught myself. And nobody taught me my multiplication facts that it was written on my IEP that I shouldn't have to learn them but I did anyway because I wanted to. Who needs to go to a place where they feed a bunch of a useless information that you will never need in life anyway? All you really need to know is how to read and write anyway know how to do simple mathematical equations. The rest should be optional, which is why I made a point of forgetting everything that I was taught that isn't necessary or didn't have any interest to me whatsoever. Sorry, I hated school so much and not only was a major bully target but it was pretty much a waste of time. And like I said before, they forced that evolution crap on me.
 
Hmm,.. a world where you wouldn't have to go to school if you didn't want to. I would have jumped on that idea a hundred percent back when I was a kid and just play video games all day and or play outside if the weather was nice. You would be surprised how much I taught myself. And nobody taught me my multiplication facts that it was written on my IEP that I shouldn't have to learn them but I did anyway because I wanted to. Who needs to go to a place where they feed a bunch of a useless information that you will never need in life anyway? All you really need to know is how to read and write anyway know how to do simple mathematical equations. The rest should be optional, which is why I made a point of forgetting everything that I was taught that isn't necessary or didn't have any interest to me whatsoever. Sorry, I hated school so much and not only was a major bully target but it was pretty much a waste of time. And like I said before, they forced that evolution crap on me.
I use trigonometry and algebra and polar addition on a regular basis as an electrician. Every time I get a new, green kid out of high school I make him go home and try to learn it all again because if he is going to be useful he has to know this stuff.
I tell him that his phone isn't just good for porn and games...he can look up this math as well. LOL
All the other trades use higher math as well. I don't know exactly which mathmatics they use but probably the ones involving area and volume.
 
I use trigonometry and algebra and polar addition on a regular basis as an electrician. Every time I get a new, green kid out of high school I make him go home and try to learn it all again because if he is going to be useful he has to know this stuff.
I tell him that his phone isn't just good for porn and games...he can look up this math as well. LOL
All the other trades use higher math as well. I don't know exactly which mathmatics they use but probably the ones involving area and volume.



Well I don't because I didn't want to become an electrician and so that's why it should be optional just like a class on religion that should be offered to those like me who are actually interested in learning about the gospel instead of what the movies The Planet of The Apes was based upon LOL!
 
Other trades use math.



Not in any type of job I would get though, at least the highly developed math and algebra that other people like you would need. I couldn't learn that stuff anyway even if I wanted to since my IQ isn't even that high. That's why they don't even teach it to special ED kids.
 
Not in any type of job I would get though, at least the highly developed math and algebra that other people like you would need. I couldn't learn that stuff anyway even if I wanted to since my IQ isn't even that high. That's why they don't even teach it to special ED kids.
I find that hard to believe as I went to school with a friend like that.he took algebra, which isn't high level.

Try calculus,or statistics.

You probably do more algebra then you think.
 
Not in any type of job I would get though, at least the highly developed math and algebra that other people like you would need. I couldn't learn that stuff anyway even if I wanted to since my IQ isn't even that high. That's why they don't even teach it to special ED kids.
I think that you could learn it but it would take some extra work on the part of a tutor to make you learn the material...you taught yourself the multiplication table. That tells me all I need to know. You can...just not in an ordinary fashion. Most teachers only have one playbook...if you don't fit in it then you get a bad label. Not necessarily true at all.
My current apprentice failed algebra 3 times....but I got him doing trig like he drinks water these days.
"He couldn't do it" either as claimed by his teachers.
He currently is better than most journeyman. I will need another 5 years and he will be trained...just like the rest...no faster and no slower of an apprentice than the rest.
 
As noble as this sounds it still costs money. If you are wanting to solve the problem of people who cannot normally afford to send their kids to a private, Christian school then you will need to come up with a way to provide funds for their tuition. Private schools do not rely on government money, which is why it is so expensive to send kids there. Public school is "free" because the costs are covered by local property taxes and the like. To solve the high cost of private education you have to start with where the money is.

This is what Betsy DeVos got put in charge of the DoE for. There's no reason parents can't have their taxes go towards the school of their choice, rather than the standard method of going to the local public school, in effect making them pay double.
 
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