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Razeontherock said:
Really? What options do we have?

Anarchy.

Theocracy.

Government (not of those two forms) is a necessary evil.
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Its has been proven through the history of mankind over and over and even in todays world that establishments don't work and nothing good comes out of it.

But, to have some kind of civilization and order there needs to be an establishment to build road and progress and so on but there also needs to be freedom.

In just in the 20th century alone near 200,00,000 people have been killed by there establishments.
 
What you're talking about there is permanence.

Which brings us right back to Abraham, who looked for a city that has "foundations," who's builder and maker is God.

He saw the end from the beginning. We still groan for redemption ...
 
What the people need is ballot inititive and create anti-corruption laws. The people have the power to do it. Its something that both the regular person on the left and right agree on and can actually unite.
 
kiwidan said:
What the people need is ballot inititive and create anti-corruption laws. The people have the power to do it. Its something that both the regular person on the left and right agree on and can actually unite.
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while I agree that, good luck with that, those laws are in place. for any in place they work around them.
 
If we're disarmed we have the power to do nothing. You raise a good point, I don't know what power we have here to create anti-corruption referendums. Many in power wouldn't like it, of that I'm sure. Our SCOTUS would strike it down after it passed, no doubt
 
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