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"God of his fathers" is exclusively reserved to the Jew, I have given you a "Very Clear" explanation, scripture is provided.

The Holy Bible clearly describes the Antichrist Of Daniel as being a Jew.

Daniel 11:37 below clearly teaches that this "individual human man" will not regard "The God Of His Fathers", capital "G" the true Hebrew God, the "Antichrist" will be a Jew.

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Daniel 11:31KJV
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Matthew 24:15KJV
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

"Two Examples" of Biblical interpretations "God Of His Fathers"

"To The Hebrew Jew"

2 Kings 21:22KJV
And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.

2 Chronicles 33:12KJV
And when he was in affliction, he besought the Lord his God, and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers,

Daniel 11:36-45 is a prophecy of a willful king not a Jew who will not regard the God of his fathers. The king in Daniel's time was a Nebuchadnezzar, one of the many kings of Babylon beginning with Nimrod, the son of Cush, the Grandson of Ham, great grandson of Noah. Nimrod and those kings of Babylon never regarded the God of their Fathers and rebelled against God teaching others to follow their ways as they have continued to do so through all four Empires with the last one existing even today.
 
But this is not a book promotion forum.
This is a community that likes to discuss things. A discussion forum.
And considering you wrote a book you should have your thoughts in order to be able to explain things. And that's what we are asking for you to do.
Let us get to know you...
We talk to you...
You talk and get to know us as well.
You become a member of the community.

We may disagree or we may agree...not relevant. But as a brother in Christ there is room for a place for you here. We are trying desperately to get to know how exactly you came to the conclusion you have. But you are resisting. Why?
We can still discuss things here. But I can't possibly give the full explanation of all my assertions here as it is longer than this forum would allow (in the sensible way). I can't copy and paste my book post after post until you have the complete story. But we can still discuss things anyway. I've shown that Rome MUST be the 6th Babylon according to scripture. There is no other interpretation. The first Babylon MUST be Babylon, the head of Gold in Nebuchadnezzar's dream. All other Babylons can be rearranged or understood to be something different and the particular interpretation I give explains them all in one concise treatise. So there are 2 points you can discuss: the first and the 6th Babylon identities. Do you agree with this? Do you see this in scripture?
 
Once I can post links then I will post a link to my free book in smashwords .com. You can look up the book now in smashwords website: The Sounding of the Horn.

Please read it and pray about it because it reveals things that are not understood in our day today. So it will not be a cookie cutter explanation that you will readily accept but it will prove for certain both through scripture and historical fact that the US is indeed the 7th Babylon. And we are ready to be destroyed very soon. This has nothing to do with the antichrist. The antichrist is restrained from coming until the time. The destruction of the 7th Babylon, the US, only marks the beginning of the 4 kingdoms in Daniel's vision which will follow in succession until the 4th kingdom arises which is the beast. I don't explain all that in my book. I ONLY explain the identity of the 7 Babylons in history and the many things which we are sinning in before God as being the prostitute.
We understand that you wrote a book.
We don't care what you know until we know that you care.

Until we can get to know you...you are a stranger...very much like the lunatic on the street corner holding a sign saying "The End Is Near".

Lots of people have theories about the end Times.... including Columbus. During WWI & II they were rampant. Then the cold war had the USSR being prominent...

In order for us to believe you...we need to Know you and how you came to your conclusions.
 
We understand that you wrote a book.
We don't care what you know until we know that you care.

Until we can get to know you...you are a stranger...very much like the lunatic on the street corner holding a sign saying "The End Is Near".

Lots of people have theories about the end Times.... including Columbus. During WWI & II they were rampant. Then the cold war had the USSR being prominent...

In order for us to believe you...we need to Know you and how you came to your conclusions.
Read my book at the smashwords website: The Sounding of the Horn and I assure you that you will get to know me more than you want. I share a bit of testimony in as I said that it is wisdom literature. If you don't believe me, how will you ever find out? You either are willing to hear me fully or you're not. It doesn't matter whether I've given you enough reason to read my book. That's your choice. But I am calling everyone everywhere to repent for the things which God has wrought against this country are coming soon and those events are happening right now before our eyes. Ask God himself whether you should read this book and if he tells you not to, then go your way and I'll go mine. But if he tells you to read it then what more do you need from me?
 
Do you understand how unfair and uneducated it is to say that? As if books have no purpose or use and it all should be done in a forum!

I wrote my book because it has the full explanation in it and it explains many more things than just the identity of the 7 Babylons in history but it goes through what we need to do as a people to repent and turn to God. It is wisdom literature and is written as such. So reading it is key to understanding the gravity of the situation. And this is completely fair. I can choose how to get the message out as I please or how God leads me to and this was how God led me to reveal this message. So when I am able to post links then I will make a repost of this with a link to the book. The book is only about 35k words. It isn't long at all and only takes 2-4 hours to read. The book is free.

The seven Babylons beginning with Babylon are Irag, Iran, Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt and Rome (Vatican City particular) as all these make up the seven Babylonian nations today being the four Empires throughout history to present day.
 
Explain how you came to these two conclusions.
How do they typify the metaphors or sybols?
When Daniel says to Nebuchadnezzar "You are the head of gold" he is obviously in that one statement declaring that the 5 kingdoms in the statue begins with Babylon. Now if the prostitute is called Babylon then we know that all 7 kings described in Revelations are also Babylons of their own kind. The prostitute is just moving from city to city as one Babylon falls and the next rises.

When it says in Revelations "they are also 7 kings: five have fallen, one is and the other has not yet come." This is and I'm telling you this is one with the dream that Nebuchadnezzar had. Daniel unlocks Revelation and we are able to understand it fully through it. The five kings which have fallen already at the time of the writing of Revelations are the same five kingdoms of Nebuchadnezzar's dream. This I reveal to you by spiritual revelation and the understanding which God has graced me with. So if you look through history, from the time of Babylon all the way to the time of Rome then you must see 5 kingdoms rise to power and have dominion over the earth much in the same manner that the first Babylon did. My book goes through this history and prophecies that show each kingdom's identity and their fulfillment of Nebuchadnezzar's dream.

Rome is in power at the time of the writing of Revelations. This unequivocally sets Rome as the 6th of 7 Babylons when the scriptures in Revelations say "five have fallen, ONE IS...." That one which IS is obviously Rome therefore. And that can't be argued since if you can't see this basic logic of history and context then you can't be taught to be changed from any other world view that one may hold.
 
It says that the antichrist comes out of Nineveh which is in modern day Iraq but rules out of the North country which is a conglomerate of nations in the north similar to the UN but not the same. Read this scripture

From you came one who plotted evil against Yahweh, a worthless counselor. ~Nahum 1:11

It is this prophecy which is speaking of the wicked counselor who plots evil against God: the antichrist himself.

Nineveh could not be antichrist for Christ wasn't even born yet at the time of Nahum's writing. Nineveh was an enemy against Judah and Israel. In 722BC the Assyrians defeated the northern kingdom of Israel destroying Samaria. In 701BC they almost conquered Jerusalem.

Because of God's love for His creation He sent Jonah there to preach repentance. Jonah 1:1-3 Jonah was called of God to go to Nineveh and preach. Jonah refused to preach there because he felt the people would repent and be spared Gods judgment. Jonah thought God was only a God of Israel. Nineveh was the capital city of the Assyrian empire that fought against Israel. When Jonah finally preached there many did repent and turned to God, but yet the Assyrian army continued to come against Israel.
 
Nineveh could not be antichrist for Christ wasn't even born yet at the time of Nahum's writing. Nineveh was an enemy against Judah and Israel. In 722BC the Assyrians defeated the northern kingdom of Israel destroying Samaria. In 701BC they almost conquered Jerusalem.

Because of God's love for His creation He sent Jonah there to preach repentance. Jonah 1:1-3 Jonah was called of God to go to Nineveh and preach. Jonah refused to preach there because he felt the people would repent and be spared Gods judgment. Jonah thought God was only a God of Israel. Nineveh was the capital city of the Assyrian empire that fought against Israel. When Jonah finally preached there many did repent and turned to God, but yet the Assyrian army continued to come against Israel.
And none of that has anything to do with the revelation that the antichrist is born out of Nineveh and rules out of the North country: a conglomerate of 10 nations. Nineveh is not the antichrist. The worthless counselor who plots evil against God is the antichrist and does come out of Nineveh but he does not rule out of Iraq as it says in Daniel, that he comes and rules out of the North country.
 
I've hit 25 posts. Everyone please read my book The Sounding of the Horn so that you may be warned of what is about to happen. I never reveal the timing of these things. I only reveal what God has revealed to me through his word.

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/672850

The book is free. It is no different than me citing an article to read so that you can be informed. I wrote it yes but it is my job to spread the message.
 
Do you understand how unfair and uneducated it is to say that?

Brother I will say it again so maybe this time you will understand what I said, because I certainly did not say “books have no purpose or use”.

“If you can't take the time to write out the scriptures that validate your claim, then I would say to all, please don't bother to read the book.”


Please stop referring to your book and take the time to express your views from the scriptures.


It’s not hard.


I gave you scriptures and bullet pointed the pertainent verses that expressed why I don’t agreee with you.

If you love your brothers and sisters in the Lord then please submit the scriptures you used to come to the conclusion you did.





JLB
 
Do you understand how unfair and uneducated it is to say that? As if books have no purpose or use and it all should be done in a forum!

I wrote my book because it has the full explanation in it and it explains many more things than just the identity of the 7 Babylons in history but it goes through what we need to do as a people to repent and turn to God. It is wisdom literature and is written as such. So reading it is key to understanding the gravity of the situation. And this is completely fair. I can choose how to get the message out as I please or how God leads me to and this was how God led me to reveal this message. So when I am able to post links then I will make a repost of this with a link to the book. The book is only about 35k words. It isn't long at all and only takes 2-4 hours to read. The book is free.


Do you know what the 4 Kingdoms of Daniel 2 are and how the fourth kingdom is relevant in the last Days, and correlates to Revelation 17?



JLB
 
We must all take warning of the events which have happened in our day and of the scriptures which tell us of the things to come. You must understand that America is indeed written of in prophecy for there are many scriptures which still have their fulfillment to come before the return of Christ. If only you understood what America is in prophecy then you would see where it has been written and what we must do on account of this.

Trump's new policy of "Make America Great Again" signals the end of the status quo. As we look to our own affairs and as he begins to call out the other nations for not doing their part, we fulfill this scripture which is written:

Ah, you destroyer, who yourself have not been destroyed, you traitor, whom none has betrayed! When you have ceased to destroy, you will be destroyed; and when you have finished betraying, they will betray you. ~Isaiah 33:1

And so this will soon come upon us. For we, the United States of America, is the 7th Babylon as described in Revelations here:

they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. ~Revelation 17:10

And the fact that the 7th Babylon "must remain only a little while" is historically unchangeable that we are this nation as described. We only have about 250 years of history and are about to meet our doom. We have remained only a little while thus far and we shall not remain much longer.

I prove all of this through scripture and historical fact in an eBook which I have written. If you wish to hear the full story (and not even the full story but only what regards to the identity of America) then please read this book so that you may take warning. This book is free and is available to anyone to read. Please take the time therefore to read it as I have, as concisely as possible, put together the explanation and interpretation of the identity of America in scripture.

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/672850
 
Read my book at the smashwords website: The Sounding of the Horn and I assure you that you will get to know me more than you want.


I just read enough of your book to see that your conclusion that America is the Seventh Babylon is nothing more that your opinion.


JLB
 
Do you know what the 4 Kingdoms of Daniel 2 are and how the fourth kingdom is relevant in the last Days, and correlates to Revelation 17?



JLB
They are not 4 but 5. When it says clearly "the iron the bronze the clay the silver and the gold" it is pointing out that there are 5 kingdoms. The clay constitutes a 5th. These 5 kingdoms are the same exact kingdoms in Revelations when it says "five have fallen, one is and the other has not yet come." They are one. They speak of the same kingdoms.

The 4 beasts that Daniel sees in a vision is actually unrelated to Nebuchadnezzar's dream. They reveal end times kingdoms. Nebuchadnezzar's dream is not about end times at all but it is about the first coming of Christ. When it says "in those days God will set up a kingdom cut by no human hand that will shatter all the other kingdoms" that is speaking of Christ's first coming and the kingdom of heaven that is "not of this world." But the 4 beasts in Daniel's vision are speaking of end times kingdoms.

Now I reveal what kingdoms are the 5 parts of the statue in my book. In order to hear the proof then you will need to read it but I will list them for you here:

Gold: Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar
Silver: Media under Cyaxares
Bronze: Persia under Cyrus
Iron: Macedonia under Alexander
Clay: Seleucia under Seleucus I Nicator

These are the five Babylons which were fallen at the time of the writing of Revelations. The one that it speaks of as being present at the time of Revelations in 17:10, the "one is" is Rome because it was in power at the time of the writing. Rome is the 6th Babylon therefore.

Rome continues it's legacy through the Byzantine Empire/Eastern Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire for spiritual reasons. The US comes to power just as the Ottoman Empire is failing and ready to fall away. We are the new city state with a new form of government under George Washington in New York City. New York City is the 7th Babylon, the prostitute which is to be destroyed by the 8th Babylon which has no city but is a conglomerate of 10 nations. I reveal the identity of the culprit in my book through scripture.
 
I just read enough of your book to see that your conclusion that America is the Seventh Babylon is nothing more that your opinion.


JLB
You either read all of it or you read none of it. If you don't hear me to the end then why should I hear you?

If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame. ~Proverbs 18:13
 
Well...
You haven't been really clear yet with much.
How does the nation's you describe fit?
Why do they fit?
Why them and not others?
After the Reformation each of the civil authorities had different times when they would prevail over the other nations. France was huge but Great Britain has been the largest nation to date spanning the entire globe and more people than anyone else thought about.
America is large and newer....but also has held the same Constitution for almost 250 years. Each nation that uses a ruling monarchy changes with each monarch. America may have small changes but no where near as drastic a change as a monarchy does when changing rulers.

Then there's the formula of near, mid, and far for biblical prophecy. Isaiah has some fine examples. You haven't addressed those.
And then you claim that Daniel unlocks John's Apocalypse...but you haven't really explained why the nations you chose. How they typify the previous nation Babylon.

America may have a huge economy and is wealthy but other nations do just fine with their economy as well.

Then the 490 year pattern... drastic religious and Political changes have been happening on a schedule of 490 years...we are way shy of another shift for 150 years yet. (Roughly not exactly)

There's a lot to explain. And you are pointing fingers at countries without explaining why you chose them.
(Everyone else has when they pick a country...most of what we see above from others is regurgitation of other's research which details these things.)
 
They are not 4 but 5. When it says clearly "the iron the bronze the clay the silver and the gold" it is pointing out that there are 5 kingdoms. The clay constitutes a 5th. These 5 kingdoms are the same exact kingdoms in Revelations when it says "five have fallen, one is and the other has not yet come." They are one. They speak of the same kingdoms.


No sir.

4 kingdoms.

From verse 40 he is describing the fourth kingdom that was a world governing kingdom.

And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others. 41 Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay.


Verse 41 is a continuing description of that kingdom which is the Roman Empire.

The legs of iron describe it during the days of John while the iron and clay describe it in the last days when it’s divided up into 10 regions and ruled by the 10 kings with the antichrist.


The club of Rome has the earth divided up into 10 regions right now.

The European Union is the prototype.


It’s symbol is a woman riding on a beast with 13 stars.

I will provide some pics in the next post.



36 “This is the dream. Now we will tell the interpretation of it before the king. 37 You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength, and glory; 38 and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all—you are this head of gold. 39 But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth. 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others. 41 Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly [m]fragile. 43 As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall [n]break in pieces and [o]consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. 45 Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold—the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure.” Daniel 2:36-45



JLB
 
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This is from the Club of Rome -


The North American Union is “region” 1.

Founded in 1968 at Accademia dei Lincei in Rome, Italy, the Club of Rome consists of current and former heads of state, UN bureaucrats, high-level politicians and government officials, diplomats, scientists, economists, and business leaders from around the globe.

Founded
1968 by Aurelio Peccei, David Rockefeller and Alexander King
Co- Presidents: Anders Wijkman and Ernst Ulrich von Weizsäcker
Secretary General: Graeme Maxton

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome


The “open borders” policy of these globalists is designed to lead the world into the 10 unions or regions.


This is why the liberal left is coming unglued over President Trump’s policy of closing the borders.



JLB
 
And none of that has anything to do with the revelation that the antichrist is born out of Nineveh and rules out of the North country: a conglomerate of 10 nations. Nineveh is not the antichrist. The worthless counselor who plots evil against God is the antichrist and does come out of Nineveh but he does not rule out of Iraq as it says in Daniel, that he comes and rules out of the North country.

Can you please give scripture for this revelation and give us the name of this North country, thank you.
 
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