Is Atheism A Religion?

[th1b.taylor]

Having grown up an Atheist I might be able to address the issue, it is a religion equal to all religions in that any religion will secure any man or woman a slot to fill in Hell. Had Jesus wanted religious people to save, the world was filled with them. But when we pray, study, submit, and seek God to answer, when we read Genesis 3 we find Adam, Man, walking in the cool of the evening with God, fellowshipping until he ate from the Forbidden Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil.

When we don't seek to study with God but instead practice one of the many religions, all of them false, we listen to some teacher as if we are hogs hungry for our Slop and when the Teacher/Preacher is finished trying to bruise his lips from beating them together the congregation goes home feeling they have done something worthy of pleasing God... that is pure bunk!

Jesus/God came to restore the Fellowship Satan tricked man into discarding. The question, 'Ïs Atheism A Religion,' is a perfect diversion from the real question, "Can we walk with God as Adam did?"

 

[Eugene]

Not in my opinion Brother th1b.taylor, or at least in the same manner. That tree of knowledge of good and evil; the law made Adam as we responsible for our what we do, and in the natural there is none of us good. Well Adam also needed a covering given to him for his nakedness (Gen 3:21).

The Atheist can argue that they don't know, but:
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

 

[th1b.taylor]

But that is not the major point, the point is religion, any religion will earn you, me, anyone a slot in Hell! God created Adam and his mate, perfect, they did not need a covering for their sin until they sinned and broke fellowship!

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

I do believe its a religion. A religion is a belief system and Atheism is a belief system mostly followed by science as there system.

They can get annoyed if you call them non believers because they use the excuse that atheism neither proves or disproves the existence of a God, so there not non believers.

 

[Malachi]

I do believe its a religion. A religion is a belief system and Atheism is a belief system.

This is right on target.

 

[JohnDB]

What is religion but something that is repeated over and over again?

The Atheist repeatedly finds his answers in science...nothing special.
The Atheist's understanding of holiness is non-existant. Nothing is pure whatsoever so....it isn't possible for there to be anything holy to begin with.

And the atheist is wrong...he religiously uses science to explain away miracles.
Unfortunately for him he can't see the perfect timing in them.

I am religiously a follower of Jesus...

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

I don't think they believe or would use the word 'miracle'. If its explained by science then its not a miracle, anything unknown either does not exist or is nothing they will believe in until science can explain it as fact.

 

[turnorburn]

I don't think they believe or would use the word 'miracle'. If its explained by science then its not a miracle, anything unknown either does not exist or is nothing they will believe in until science can explain it as fact.

I've seen members on this forum that act like that...

 

[Free]

But that is not the major point, the point is religion, any religion will earn you, me, anyone a slot in Hell!

Except Christianity, of course.

 

[Malachi]

Except Christianity, of course.

If treated as a religion and not a relationship.

 

[Free]

If treated as a religion and not a relationship.

You agreed above that "religion is a belief system." Are you now saying that Christianity isn't a belief system or are you changing the definition of religion?

 

[stovebolts]

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Anything else is not religion, but rather an idol. And why do people worship idols? Because they believe they can win favor from an outside being over situations that they have no control over.

When Christianity becomes an idol, people can loose their faith when something bad out of their control happens. Why? Because it's about an exchange. I do this, so it means I've earned that. In other words, "Im a good Christian. I do this, I do that, so God will protect me and keep me from harm". What they are saying, is that they have earned God's favor. So when something bad happens, they don't think God has been fair, so they loose their faith. This, I believe is partially what Malachi is speaking about.

For an Athiest, I think that some of them feel secure in Science because it says, "Your here, and some things are just out of your control, so don't pretend you can control them, cause there isnt' any God above going to protect you from bad things happening". Sadly, in part they are right.

As Christians, God never promised us life would be blue skies and rainbows. What we do know, is that there is a time for everything under the sun. And you can either go through it on your own, or you can go through it with the only one who really understands, and that's our Creator.

Sometimes you may even beg, "God, take this away from me... it's too much, I can't bear it". And he may just reply, "My grace is sufficient for you".

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

My faith is not based on a system or rules.

 

[Eugene]

ames 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Brother StoveBolts, maybe I’m wrong, but somewhere in this scripture I see the law applying to the unbeliever. Just prior to this is Jas 1:21, Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. Is it even remotely possible for anyone to save their souls without Christ’s redemption given them?

I remember a seemingly good woman doing all manner of works for others, and I also link that to Rom 2:7 “To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life,” and yet she said that God wanted them to be good in their worthless religions; in other words, be a good devil huh? She did appear very religious.

In the natural body, or old nature how does one fare with God regardless of what they have done?
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one !!!!!
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
Would this even apply to our Savior’s mother Mary, or is there some that will deny this, and promote someone as sinless, and not needing Jesus’ as their Savior.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

Technically atheism isn't a religion any more then our disbelief in any other gods and is a religion. However, in practice it seems very much like a religion to me. Because an atheist will do everything to explain away the existiance of God. And because some of it can't be explained away outside of being ignored, accused of being lies, or our that mind playing tricks on us.

From what I can tell about the atheistic perspective: To be sane and truthful and knowGod, just can't happen. More then believing in science or believing in other mystical occurance said but not in God, the perspective that God can not exist seems to be the fundamental perspective among all atheists.

In practice, I see atheism as a religion, because of the starch rejection of God existing, when He is a reality. It's a false religion but still a religion. The other catogary of belief and disbelief is being agnostic. Unsure if God is real or not. Agnostic as far as I can tell has more ground to call itself something besides a religion, atheism can not though.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Except Christianity, of course.

Not so brother, sorry but that is just not so. People, Religiously, go to Christian Services Sundays and Wednesdays and they swear by7 their religion and at the same time feel they owe God, in the words of more than one responder to one of my sermon posts, "I don't owe God a damned thing, I am a Son Of God and He owes me."

Free, I oft encounter people that either do not know that Jesus, God in the flesh of a man, returned, see that word, returned, to reestablish fellowship with the Crown Jewel of His Creation or they have that general idea but with no idea of how to define that fellowship.

God cares less if we call that fellowship Christianity, Judaism or something else but He has preserved all of His Word for our benefit and in His Word we find Him returning to reestablish what was lost and when we search the scriptures we find God removing Fellowship from all mankind because Adam, Man, allowed sin to enter into the Creation he had been commissioned to administer.

You see, I went to Church, a Christian Church, a few times when I was searching for God and I'll be dog-gone, the same girl I bought breakfast for that was determined she was not going home until she had accessed my bed was right there in the choir, helping to lead service and when she spotted me, she turned beat red.

The preacher, her Preacher assured me she was a great Christian Believer and that hanging out with her would be good for me, at which point she turned red again and had to go to the ladies room.

And personal experience aside, there is that mid-eighties Double Blind Survey of the American Church. In that survey less than 2% of the Faithful Members believe the Basic Tenants of the Christian Faith.

As I am taught the questions were such as, "Do you believe Jesus died as the payment for your sins? Do you believe in the Virgin Birth? Do you believe Jesus is returning to take you to Heaven?" and such.

I am sorry but being a Baptist, as I am, being a Catholic, or being an Atheist will purchase you a slot in Hell jus as quickly as being a Christian and not walking with God will.

Our walk with God, on a, I want to say daily but that is a lieso, our walk with God on a minute by minute basis is our assurance of Sallvation.

And that, does indeed, mean we have, totally, devoted our lives to God, so much so that we are willing to die, at any moment, for God. I have no idea who's ame is written in The Book Of Life other than my own. I do how ever have God's Word to prove there are not many written there for the path is straight and the gate is narrow.

 

[JohnDB]

Yeah,. The path is narrow indeed. It's not well marked either. The path is so narrow that sometimes we step off of it.

I find myself often struggling to stay on it especially when frustrated with insanity and the self-centered nature of others...which only brings out mine.

Thank God for Jesus who continually washes us clean.

My avatar pic on this forum just had a 2year Birthday. 3 countries and 3 international trips later and now a 4th trip next month...my wife and I are exhausted and eager all at the same time. We took one year off too.

People screw up. We don't want to but we do. So how do we recover? I don't know if we can. But the effort of getting back up on that horse and trying again is all I know to do.

 

[Eugene]

I have no idea who's ame is written in The Book Of Life other than my own.

Brother th1b.taylor, how is it that in Php 4.3 the Apostle Paul knew that those women which laboured with him in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

Was it their labor, or a confession that Jesus is Lord. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Are you alone left as Elijah in 1 Ki 19:4 requested for himself that he might die, and in 1 Ki 19:13 God finds him in a cave and asks him, "What doest thou here, Elijah?". In 1 Ki 19:14 Elijah has the excuse why he is not walking with God: I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away. (I'm the only for sure servant you have left LORD).
Trouble is that Elijah isn't privy to everything God is doing evidently, and God sets him straight in 1 Ki 19:18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel.

Now how can we possibly know whose names are in the book of life? By their confessions of Who they believe, or their deeds? When I see them professing to be a Christian on these forums I count them as brethren, and their names in the book of life unless at some future time they admit they are here just pulling our legs as it were.
God bless you Bill in Jesus' name.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Yeah,. The path is narrow indeed. It's not well marked either. The path is so narrow that sometimes we step off of it.

I find myself often struggling to stay on it especially when frustrated with insanity and the self-centered nature of others...which only brings out mine.

Thank God for Jesus who continually washes us clean.

My avatar pic on this forum just had a 2year Birthday. 3 countries and 3 international trips later and now a 4th trip next month...my wife and I are exhausted and eager all at the same time. We took one year off too.

People screw up. We don't want to but we do. So how do we recover? I don't know if we can. But the effort of getting back up on that horse and trying again is all I know to do.

Amen, falling off at my age is very dangerous, were it not for the love of and walking along side of my Jesus that reseats me when, not if, I fall off.

 

[Free]

Not so brother, sorry but that is just not so. People, Religiously, go to Christian Services Sundays and Wednesdays and they swear by7 their religion and at the same time feel they owe God, in the words of more than one responder to one of my sermon posts, "I don't owe God a damned thing, I am a Son Of God and He owes me."

Free, I oft encounter people that either do not know that Jesus, God in the flesh of a man, returned, see that word, returned, to reestablish fellowship with the Crown Jewel of His Creation or they have that general idea but with no idea of how to define that fellowship.

God cares less if we call that fellowship Christianity, Judaism or something else but He has preserved all of His Word for our benefit and in His Word we find Him returning to reestablish what was lost and when we search the scriptures we find God removing Fellowship from all mankind because Adam, Man, allowed sin to enter into the Creation he had been commissioned to administer.

You see, I went to Church, a Christian Church, a few times when I was searching for God and I'll be dog-gone, the same girl I bought breakfast for that was determined she was not going home until she had accessed my bed was right there in the choir, helping to lead service and when she spotted me, she turned beat red.

The preacher, her Preacher assured me she was a great Christian Believer and that hanging out with her would be good for me, at which point she turned red again and had to go to the ladies room.

And personal experience aside, there is that mid-eighties Double Blind Survey of the American Church. In that survey less than 2% of the Faithful Members believe the Basic Tenants of the Christian Faith.

As I am taught the questions were such as, "Do you believe Jesus died as the payment for your sins? Do you believe in the Virgin Birth? Do you believe Jesus is returning to take you to Heaven?" and such.

I am sorry but being a Baptist, as I am, being a Catholic, or being an Atheist will purchase you a slot in Hell jus as quickly as being a Christian and not walking with God will.

Our walk with God, on a, I want to say daily but that is a lieso, our walk with God on a minute by minute basis is our assurance of Sallvation.

And that, does indeed, mean we have, totally, devoted our lives to God, so much so that we are willing to die, at any moment, for God. I have no idea who's ame is written in The Book Of Life other than my own. I do how ever have God's Word to prove there are not many written there for the path is straight and the gate is narrow.

I see that you like a previous post where the definition of religion given was "a belief system". Do you actually agree with that? If so, how can you deny that Christianity is a religion? If not, what is your definition of religion? Do you realize that by most, if not all, definitions of religion that Christianity is a religion?