Is it a sin to have Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Magazines?

[Dave Slayer]

Is it a sin to have Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Magazines?

 

[Blazin Bones]

Nope. (Ladies give me a sec before getting out the shot guns)

Yes it is a sin if all your buying the issue for is to check out less than modest women in almost nothing.

However, this does not have to be the only reason you buy or get the issue. I had a subscription to Sports Illustrated while I was in High-School, so the issue came as part of it. I cannot say I did not find the women attractive because that would be an out and out lie, but I can also say that I REALLY DID read the articles too.

I'm a few years older now and also happily married to the dreamgirl you all know as Caromurp. I do not have a subscription to SI anymore and so I would have to willingly buy the issue. Let's face it, the articles in that particular annual issue of SI are lousy. Now I can think of only one good use for the thing...fire starter.

Is it a sin just to have the SI Swimsuit Issue, no. However it is very difficult to find a good reason to get it and once you do good luck on keeping you thought noble and pure.

 

[Fembot]

Worldly things are just that-worldly. So, if you want to check just the sports, you shouldn't be buying a magazine that has half naked women in it. ESPN does a good enough job covering sports without devoting a whole issue to half nakd women to gawk at. THAT is pornography. I'm surprised at your answer Blazin'! Really.

 

[Blazin Bones]

Worldly things are just that-worldly. So, if you want to check just the sports, you shouldn't be buying a magazine that has half naked women in it. ESPN does a good enough job covering sports without devoting a whole issue to half nakd women to gawk at. THAT is pornography. I'm surprised at your answer Blazin'! Really.

(Someone clearly had the shotgun already cocked and ready to go...)

So let's see here...

Yes it is a sin if all your buying the issue for is to check out less than modest women in almost nothing.

Now I can think of only one good use for the thing...fire starter.

it is very difficult to find a good reason to get it

good luck on keeping you thought noble and pure.

That is Four quotes from my post making a clear case that it is not something that anyone really needs to look at. However, to call the mere presense of women in swimsuits pornography is a double standard beyond measure. If the mere presense of women in swimsuits is pornographic, then so is a man going to a beach, going to a public pool or going to wal-mart where they have toddler Bikini's right smack in the middle of the isle for everyone to see. So basically anything associated with a woman and water would be pornographic by this line of reasoning.

If that is what you are saying, do you own any swimsuit? Not just a Bikini, but any swimsuit? I've seen the issues and while it is rare that there is a one peice in the issue, there are. However by what you say any half naked woman is pornography. So your reasoning makes it that any woman who even wares a simple one peice is a porn star. Do you see how ridiculous such a line of reasoning is?

 

[Vic C.]

Before I read the rest of the thread, I already had this copied:

Is it a sin just to have the SI Swimsuit Issue, no. However it is very difficult to find a good reason to get it and once you do good luck on keeping you thought noble and pure.

That just about wraps up the issue at hand.

 

[NooneSpecial]

To say that any man looking at a woman in a swim suit is looking at pornography is a bit extreme. Basically leads to the accusation of all women who ever wear a swim suit of being porn stars.

Is it a sin to have a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition Magazine?

That depends likely on the mind set one has when reading it.

 

[Caroline H]

That just about wraps up the issue at hand.

:biglol Nice one Vic,

Is it a sin to HAVE it? No,...

Can it LEAD to sin? Yes

 

[Vic C.]

:toofunny I didn't even intend for there to be a pun!

 

[Caroline H]

Haha! I guess it just comes naturally

 

[Fembot]

To say that any man looking at a woman in a swim suit is looking at pornography is a bit extreme. Basically leads to the accusation of all women who ever wear a swim suit of being porn stars.

Is it a sin to have a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition Magazine?

That depends likely on the mind set one has when reading it.

The topic is looking at a magazine that puts out issues with half naked women. That is porn. If I walk down the block to the beach and a guy looks at me. It's not my fault, doesn't make me anything. Makes him a perv. I happen to wear bikinis every weekend. I live in Southern Florida, I'm not going to wear a robe to the beach.

Looking at magazines with half-naked women is porn. Period.

Sorry to hurt you people's feelings.

I love the questions you raise, Dave. Really brings out the two-faced aspect of life.

 

[NooneSpecial]

To say that any man looking at a woman in a swim suit is looking at pornography is a bit extreme. Basically leads to the accusation of all women who ever wear a swim suit of being porn stars.

Is it a sin to have a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition Magazine?

That depends likely on the mind set one has when reading it.

The topic is looking at a magazine that puts out issues with half naked women. That is porn. If I walk down the block to the beach and a guy looks at me. It's not my fault, doesn't make me anything. Makes him a perv. I happen to wear bikinis every weekend. I live in Southern Florida, I'm not going to wear a robe to the beach.

Looking at magazines with half-naked women is porn. Period.

Sorry to hurt you people's feelings.

I love the questions you raise, Dave. Really brings out the two-faced aspect of life.

Cannot see the logic in that. For could see the same arguement being used for women who wear swimsuits in JC Penny Catalogs to make a sale on the suit. That qualify as porn too? If so, a number of women need to be duely informed.

Guess we just have different ideas of what pornography is.

 

[Fembot]

Now if your buying National Geographic to read about tribal rituals and there happens to be an article with half naked tribes women THEN THAT is not porn.

I am able to decipher right from wrong with out judging people. I would not call these women porn stars. They are models. First off.
Giving your money to a magazine that spends hundreds of thousands to sell sex to men is wrong. These magazines pay women to fly to an exotic location, wear next to nothing (some have their bodies painted-like the American flag etc). Then they market their bodies to men. How is that right in the eyes of a Christian?

 

[handy]

I think part of the problem is that we don't really have a good definition of what porn is. This is due to very careful manipulation by the porn industry btw, because if porn was ever fully and completely defined, they'd be out of business.

If one thinks of porn of what a woman may or may not be wearing, then wearing a swimsuit isn't porn.

If one thinks of porn as to how the woman (or man) is displayed for a picture or video, then the SISE really boarders on porn because the women are posed to be as sexually provocative as possible.

If one thinks of porn as only how it effects the person who is viewing it, then the SISE is something that might be porn to some, not so much to others.

The SISE represents the line at our house. I frankly wouldn't care if Steve bought one, although he's never done so since we've been married. But, Playboy is the next step up and noway nohow is that rag ever going to be allowed in my house.

 

[Fembot]

To say that any man looking at a woman in a swim suit is looking at pornography is a bit extreme. Basically leads to the accusation of all women who ever wear a swim suit of being porn stars.

Is it a sin to have a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition Magazine?

That depends likely on the mind set one has when reading it.

The topic is looking at a magazine that puts out issues with half naked women. That is porn. If I walk down the block to the beach and a guy looks at me. It's not my fault, doesn't make me anything. Makes him a perv. I happen to wear bikinis every weekend. I live in Southern Florida, I'm not going to wear a robe to the beach.

Looking at magazines with half-naked women is porn. Period.

Sorry to hurt you people's feelings.

I love the questions you raise, Dave. Really brings out the two-faced aspect of life.

Cannot see the logic in that. For could see the same arguement being used for women who wear swimsuits in JC Penny Catalogs to make a sale on the suit. That qualify as porn too? If so, a number of women need to be duely informed.

Guess we just have different ideas of what pornography is.

Dancing circles.

Is JCPenny marketing to men? Or are they selling a PRODUCT for women to wear?

What product is Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition selling? Porn

That's the difference.

 

[NooneSpecial]

Now if your buying National Geographic to read about tribal rituals and there happens to be an article with half naked tribes women THEN THAT is not porn.

I am able to decipher right from wrong with out judging people. I would not call these women porn stars. They are models. First off.
Giving your money to a magazine that spends hundreds of thousands to sell sex to men is wrong. These magazines pay women to fly to an exotic location, wear next to nothing (some have their bodies painted-like the American flag etc). Then they market their bodies to men. How is that right in the eyes of a Christian?

Understable that there are questionable pictures taken. That is done in just about every kind of magazine out there anymore. Be it a nearly naked young male or female. The hidden message is often one of great concern.

Just feel that perhaps we need to take caution. For yes standing up for our beliefs is great. It should be done. Just need to make sure that the line of paranoia is not crossed in the process. Just about everything we do in this day and age could undoubtably be tied back with some form of sin. Or defined as such.

So that could very well raise the question of if we do so much questionable things that can or may be related to sin how can any of us call ourselves Christians?

Then being a Christian would not mean being a Christian if Christ was not needed.

 

[Fembot]

Handy:The SISE represents the line at our house. I frankly wouldn't care if Steve bought one, although he's never done so since we've been married. But, Playboy is the next step up and noway nohow is that rag ever going to be allowed in my house.

You gave some good answers. However, there is only one definition of porn.

porn - creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire

Merriam Webster

Have you ever seen the latest SISE issues? There are naked women in there Handy. Some are topless (like Playboy). Some have painted bikinis on where their nipples show.
It is selling sex, not the swimsuit, not anything else.

This is not directed towards Handy: Some people need to get over personal differences and just realize that I am speaking as a child of God. How God meant for us to live is of importance not whether you take my side.

 

[Fembot]

Understable that there are questionable pictures taken. That is done in just about every kind of magazine out there anymore. Be it a nearly naked young male or female. The hidden message is often one of great concern.

Just feel that perhaps we need to take caution. For yes standing up for our beliefs is great. It should be done. Just need to make sure that the line of paranoia is not crossed in the process. Just about everything we do in this day and age could undoubtably be tied back with some form of sin. Or defined as such.

So that could very well raise the question of if we do so much questionable things that can or may be related to sin how can any of us call ourselves Christians?

Then being a Christian would not mean being a Christian if Christ was not needed.

Because, as a Christian, WE KNOW BETTER than to call something acceptable when it clearly isn't.
If I were to post pics from the 2008 issue, that WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE here. So, stop pretending it is.

 

[handy]

Handy:The SISE represents the line at our house. I frankly wouldn't care if Steve bought one, although he's never done so since we've been married. But, Playboy is the next step up and noway nohow is that rag ever going to be allowed in my house.

You gave some good answers. However, there is only one definition of porn.

porn - creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire

Merriam Webster

Have you ever seen the latest SISE issues? There are naked women in there Handy. Some are topless (like Playboy). Some have painted bikinis on where their nipples show.
It is selling sex, not the swimsuit, not anything else.

This is not directed towards Handy: Some people need to get over personal differences and just realize that I am speaking as a child of God. How God meant for us to live is of importance not whether you take my side.

I put some more thought into this topic and thought I'd revisit. I think it would bother me if Steve bought the SISE, just that issue, and not received it as part of a subscription. Because the thing is, the women are posed to be sexually provocative. And if he bought it, he would be buying it for no other reason than to see the women posed to be sexually provocative and that would be porn.

Glad to know that in the 11 years we've been married, he hasn't shown the least bit of interest in porn or anything close to it, and that includes the SISE.

The thing that kind of pulled me up is the fact that this issue is in a Sports magazine. Now basketball is a sport. Football is a sport. Hockey is a sport.

So, exactly what "sport" is Sport's Illustrated selling here? Women displaying their almost nude bodies for sexual excitement is "sport"?

Yeah, I have to agree with Fembot, that really is porn.

I do agree with Tim that if one gets the issue simply as part of a full subscription to the magazine so that one can read the articles about basketball, football and hockey and other sports related news, then it's probably not a sin. But as soon as one picks up that particular and starts to look?

About reading the articles, you know some of the best writers of our times and some of the most influential people of our times have contributed articles to Playboy magazine as well. Would anyone say it's OK to get an issue of Playboy in order to read the article.

 

[Fembot]

Glad to know that in the 11 years we've been married, he hasn't shown the least bit of interest in porn or anything close to it, and that includes the SISE.

Um, WHERE can I get one of those?

About reading the articles, you know some of the best writers of our times and some of the most influential people of our times have contributed articles to Playboy magazine as well. Would anyone say it's OK to get an issue of Playboy in order to read the article.

The thing, Handy, is that the entire issue is devoted to these women and the "articles" involve questioning them about their sex lives and what they like don't like etc.

As for reading Playboy for the articles: Sure! I also go to the movies to buy popcorn then leave. :rolling

I luv you Handy

 

[Caroline H]

As I understand it, the Sports Illustrated magazine only puts out one swimsuit issue a year. I think that if someone has a subscription to that magazine it probably isn't for the swimsuit edition. There are other magazines like Maxim and Playboy that would serve that purpose. The question of sin comes into play when someone takes that particular edition and decides to fantasize over the women.

The topic is looking at a magazine that puts out issues with half naked women. That is porn. If I walk down the block to the beach and a guy looks at me. It's not my fault, doesn't make me anything. Makes him a perv. I happen to wear bikinis every weekend. I live in Southern Florida, I'm not going to wear a robe to the beach.

Looking at magazines with half-naked women is porn. Period.

Fembot, what is the difference? If it is wrong for a man to look at a women in a bikini on paper, then it is wrong for him to look at a live person walking down the street in a bikini. I think that it is possible for a man to see a woman in a bikini and not lust after her, although it may very well cause him to stumble, not every man is that way. Personally, I don't think that the swimsuit edition is porn in itself, but I don't agree with that edition anyway because of how I feel about swimsuits themselves...