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Is the government hiding a cancer cure ?

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Is There Really a Conspiracy
to Suppress Cancer Cures?


Michael Higgins

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I've just found the cure for cancer!
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No, I said "cure for cancer" not "I have cancer."
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hmmm... Maybe I've haven't found a cure.
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The world of "alternative" cancer treatments abounds with claims like these:
“The war on cancer is largely a fraud.”
“In 1964, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) spent millions of dollars to stop an alternative cancer treatment which had cured hundreds, if not thousands, of cancer patients”
“The pharmaceutical multinationals, unable to patent or claim exclusive rights to the vitamin, launched a propaganda attack of unprecedented viciousness against B17, despite the fact that hard proof of its efficiency in controlling all forms of cancer surrounds us in overwhelming abundance.”
The general story is that there is a conspiracy by the established medical industry to keep the cure for cancer hidden. This is the “cancer conspiracy” discussed on this page. The reasoning behind this theory typically goes like this:
Alleged Fact 1: Cancer is a multi-billion dollar industry. + Alleged Fact 2: Treatment x cures cancer so well it would destroy that industry. => Conclusion: Some individuals, companies, and government organisations involved in the industry are suppressing the information about x to keep their industry thriving. As a cancer patient myself, I would like nothing better than to believe that there is a cure for my cancer out there in the world of alternative medicine. However, when you look closely at the medical industry, the possibility of such a cover-up seems implausible.
Who are the conspirators?

I have been living with cancer for three years and during that time been treated by approximately half a dozen medical practioners. I have been fortunate because almost all of them have been remarkably compassionate and caring people. At least one of them was motivated to pursue cancer research by the loss of a close relative.
All of these individuals had partaken in medical research at some stage in their careers, and about half of them were actively involved in research regarding treating cancer patients at the time of my treatment. One of them sat on the board of a private pharmaceuticals company, another was an adviser to a government agency. If you look across the world there must be hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people like them.
They are the people I am being asked to believe are conspiring to keep the truth hidden from me in order to keep their jobs. I believe that every single one of them would gladly quit their profession and retrain tomorrow if their patients could suddenly be cured without their help. Yet this conspiracy theory requires not just one or two bad-apples knowingly letting their patients die, but a huge number, probably the majority, of medical professionals, in medical research, would need to be involved.

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But isn't cancer Big Business ?

Of course it is! In Australia, where I live, the majority of research is funded by the government and done by universities and large teaching hospitals. The cost of treating cancer patients takes up a large, and increasing proportion of the government health budget. The cancer conspiracy would suggest that the government is so concerned about keeping the business running (in this case the hospital beds full) that they would hide any discovery that would free up hospital resources. Even the most cynical should realise that the huge cost of treating cancer patients is something the government is keen to reduce not increase. The financial incentive is clearly on the side of finding the cure, not hiding it.
On the other hand, I would certainly concede that private commercial funding only targets treatments that would be profitable. Typically, this is patentable drugs and excludes most alternatives. So this type of research complements rather than replaces government funded research. But the fact that billions of dollars are being spent by private companies on such research is something that I am entirely grateful for. To me the idea that these companies could control medical knowledge, or even the individuals who work for them is ridiculous.

Who are the conspirators?

I have been living with cancer for three years and during that time been treated by approximately half a dozen medical practioners. I have been fortunate because almost all of them have been remarkably compassionate and caring people. At least one of them was motivated to pursue cancer research by the loss of a close relative.
All of these individuals had partaken in medical research at some stage in their careers, and about half of them were actively involved in research regarding treating cancer patients at the time of my treatment. One of them sat on the board of a private pharmaceuticals company, another was an adviser to a government agency. If you look across the world there must be hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people like them.
They are the people I am being asked to believe are conspiring to keep the truth hidden from me in order to keep their jobs. I believe that every single one of them would gladly quit their profession and retrain tomorrow if their patients could suddenly be cured without their help. Yet this conspiracy theory requires not just one or two bad-apples knowingly letting their patients die, but a huge number, probably the majority, of medical professionals, in medical research, would need to be involved.
But isn't cancer Big Business ?

Of course it is! In Australia, where I live, the majority of research is funded by the government and done by universities and large teaching hospitals. The cost of treating cancer patients takes up a large, and increasing proportion of the government health budget. The cancer conspiracy would suggest that the government is so concerned about keeping the business running (in this case the hospital beds full) that they would hide any discovery that would free up hospital resources. Even the most cynical should realise that the huge cost of treating cancer patients is something the government is keen to reduce not increase. The financial incentive is clearly on the side of finding the cure, not hiding it.
On the other hand, I would certainly concede that private commercial funding only targets treatments that would be profitable. Typically, this is patentable drugs and excludes most alternatives. So this type of research complements rather than replaces government funded research. But the fact that billions of dollars are being spent by private companies on such research is something that I am entirely grateful for. To me the idea that these companies could control medical knowledge, or even the individuals who work for them is ridiculous.

Why are so many people saying there is a Cancer Conspiracy?

Are there really so many? There are billions of people who don't believe these theories, but somehow a website that says "I believe what's logical and reasonable, like most people" doesn't seem so interesting.
Those who do go to the trouble of putting together an "alternative" cancer treatment website generally seem intent on making money out of it. Ironic isn't it!
Besides, the Internet is the home of conspiracy theories. You could find one on just about any subject. I am grateful we have so many independent thinkers and the freedom to express ourselves. But I get angry when I see vulnerable people being told lies and exploited for a profit.
What about the tobacco industry?

The tobacco industry makes billions of dollars from selling a major cancer causing product. Furthermore, the government makes additional billions from taxes on tobacco products. If there was ever a case where money was going to hide the facts about a product then this would be it.
But has that happened? No. In Australia, cigarette boxes are covered with warnings like “Smoking Kills”and “Smoking is addictive” and advertising of tobacco products is totally banned. In fact the government spends millions of dollars educating the population about the dangers of smoking.
There is evidence that initial research performed by tobacco companies was suppressed, so indeed these companies have certainly acted unethically and immorally. But despite the fact that these businesses and the government make billions out of the industry, the truth was not suppressed for long. If anything, this case demonstrates that even when both big business and government have vast financial interests in hiding the truth, it simply can't be done.
Couldn't a cure for cancer come from alternative medicine?

If history has taught us anything about cancer, it is that it is not an easy disease to cure. It is 2,400 years after the disease was first recorded by Hippocrates and presumably even longer since the first treatment was attempted. If traditional medicine has failed for this long, it seems to me that a cure will require every fraction of recently obtained knowledge about microbiology, the human genome, and modern medicine. It seems unlikely that fields of research outside this body of knowledge will make a lot of progress. But if an "alternative" practitioner did stumble onto an effective method, the scientific community would quickly embrace it and there would be no cover-up.

Conclusion

I know there isn't any cancer conspiracy because I know that the people doing and running the research are human. Their lives, like mine, have been touched by cancer. They, like me, would do anything to save the lives of the people they love. Furthermore, I assume that any treatments associating themselves with a conspiracy theory have something to hide—the simple fact that their treatment doesn't work.
Michael Higgins was an Australian engineer who was diagnosed with colon cancer in 2001. This article was the centerpiece of a Web site he set up in 2003 to help prevent others with cancer from wasting their time, money, and even their health pursuing worthless "cures." During its four-year lifetime, the site had more than 120,000 page hits and generated more than 300 feedback emails. Mr. Higgins died in 2004, but to preserve his message, the article was offered to the Quackwatch network, which published it with slight modification. Quackwatch has additional information on this subject.
 
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finally. lewis i love this, its the truth. why would any good caring doctor deny treatment to those who suffer?
 
I have survived cancer. My first thanks goes to God. Second to the number of medical folks who were/are part of my care. And to those of family and friends who held/hold my hand.

Thanks Lewis
 
I think lots of people have an understandable fear of Big Pharma and the government. Big Pharma pumps out pills that simply treat symptoms (for lots of $$$, I might add) and the government seems to content to let the pharmaceutical companies and the medical establishment go right along, exposing patients to various risks while profiting handsomely. Factor in nasty things that the government HAS done--MK ULTRA comes to mind--and I can easily see how some people could believe that the government and the pharmaceutical industry are somehow colluding to prolong the misery.

I don't believe it, though. I think its far more likely that cancer remains a difficult to treat, often incurable malady and another part of the equation is understandable frustration. I mean, we've sent men to the moon, why can't we get rid of tumors?

Good post.
 
I would say this, those people in government are not doctors that treat cancer! Do those in government in there hearts care if the cancer sufferer lives or dies, are they that cold? The UN has a depopulation program that is real. They want less people on the earth. And can they believe that there is a cure for cancer already here? I think a better question could be are there natural cures for cancer? i believe that there are, i was told that there are about 20 natural cures for different forms of cancer. I posted here 6 natural cures. We need to hear more about natural cures for cancer as God did create medicine and if there is a disease then surely God knows a cure for it.
 
I would say this, those people in government are not doctors that treat cancer! Do those in government in there hearts care if the cancer sufferer lives or dies, are they that cold? The UN has a depopulation program that is real. They want less people on the earth. And can they believe that there is a cure for cancer already here? I think a better question could be are there natural cures for cancer? i believe that there are, i was told that there are about 20 natural cures for different forms of cancer. I posted here 6 natural cures. We need to hear more about natural cures for cancer as God did create medicine and if there is a disease then surely God knows a cure for it.

where in the bible does it say medicine is a sin? luke the physician? hmm he wrote the bible books of acts and luke. and if you take note his gospel has a medical lean to it. the woman with the issue, how jesus healed.
 
where in the bible does it say medicine is a sin? luke the physician? hmm he wrote the bible books of acts and luke. and if you take note his gospel has a medical lean to it. the woman with the issue, how jesus healed.

I never said medicine was a sin. It depends on how you define medicine. Alot of man made medicine may help one thing but cause problems in another area, so you need another medicine and so on.
 
I never said medicine was a sin. It depends on how you define medicine. Alot of man made medicine may help one thing but cause problems in another area, so you need another medicine and so on.
hypothetical question? if say cancer is cure by tomatoes and a blight kills off all tomatoes species. would you then call the synthentised ingredient from tomatoes a sin? a conspiracy?

you do realise that much of man made medicine just what i said just refined.

omega3 fatty acid for the cholestorel is from fish and lipitor is the just that.there are those who are born allegerlic to the sun and or water. i have a friend that will die if he is exposed to the sun too long.
 
Ok, have you ever heard of someone in the government who has got cancer and then got cured somehow?


i will answer that when you can cure someone from the brink of death from skin cancer with a tomatoe.

take my word for it and just eat them it will kill them cells.

did you ever think that cancer is such an ineffecient way to kill in mass? it is. if i drop spores of anthrax from an airborne delivery method the deaths in hours from some would be amazing. that stuff once inhaled kills that fast.

or small pox and or tb. but the problem is that those are such contagoeus things the guys that wanted to do that wouldnt be able to well have a life and or not get hit themselves.

hussien gassed the kurds. whole villages of them.
 
Back to the OP, I would say that anything being hidden is larger than the US government. This is one-world-ism. If I had to blame anyone, blame the Illuminati, but that gets into conspiracy theories again. My point is if it was just one nation, another would just blow the whistle.

But if we focus on the Illuminati, what is their supposed goal? To become rich, powerful and reduce the world's population to an obedient fraction.

Based on what chemotherapy does, that sounds about right. It makes "someone" rich, but it certainly does not cure anything. The people end up dying anyway. But before we even blame anyone for withholding cures, maybe the real question is why the exponential explosion in cancer cases to begin with? And so it goes....
 
i believe in logical solutions to that question. why would the illumanati be sound dumb enough to let us know, and uh that is real old i heard this stuff as kid in the eighties.

see my point on vectors. besides i should point out the anti-christ doesnt rule the entire world directly. only the roman rebuilt empire.

i do see that pollution may have a key to this or that some of the cancers were never documented. they have found heart disease and some other cancer that were in mummies found in egypt.

if i wanted my agency keep secret , which is near impossible and it leaked out. strange accidents would occur. again i refer to the rise of stalin and mao and hitler and how they held power.
 
But before we even blame anyone for withholding cures, maybe the real question is why the exponential explosion in cancer cases to begin with? And so it goes....

That is a great question that needs to be explored. Many cultures hundreds of years ago had no cancers that killed them. I do know alot of farmers that have used chemicals get cancer. It seems to me that some people are more prone to getting cancer than others.
 
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