Bible Study Jesus, Joshua, or Yeshua?

[HeIsRisen2018]

The reason why I'm asking this question is because I've heard all three of these names used for our Lord and Savior. Four if you count Emmanuel. So which is it because all four of these names have very different spellings even if they all basically mean the same thing. How did Yeshua turn into Jesus anyway and why don't we just call Him by His real name?

 

[JohnDB]

The reason why I'm asking this question is because I've heard all three of these names used for our Lord and Savior. Four if you count Emmanuel. So which is it because all four of these names have very different spellings even if they all basically mean the same thing. How did Yeshua turn into Jesus anyway and why don't we just call Him by His real name?

Because the letter J in English has the soft "g" sound but in other languages it is the "y" sound.
Joshua and Jesus are actually the same name in Hebrew...but we spell them differently to differentiate between the two.

Emmanuel is a title... meaning "God with us". Just like Christ is Greek for Messiah. These are titles like Pharaoh, president and etc.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Because the letter J in English has the soft "g" sound but in other languages it is the "y" sound.
Joshua and Jesus are actually the same name in Hebrew...but we spell them differently to differentiate between the two.

Emmanuel is a title... meaning "God with us". Just like Christ is Greek for Messiah. These are titles like Pharaoh, president and etc.

Okay, so if I'm understanding you right it really is the same name but in different languages. So,.. which one would have been the one that Jesus went by? I'm guessing it was either Joshua or Yeshua, but I'm still not a hundred percent clear on that part. But I guess since Jesus Christ is our Savior He had to be put in a class all of His own.

 

[Razeontherock]

You see more variations yet, just among posters here. The really important thing is that you get to know the One you met under the water today, and keep getting to know Him better! He might even tell you which Name He prefers you to call Him by. I think that's why different people use different forms of the same Name for Him.

A study on the Names of God is very eye-opening!

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

You see more variations yet, just among posters here. The really important thing is that you get to know the One you met under the water today, and keep getting to know Him better! He might even tell you which Name He prefers you to call Him by. I think that's why different people use different forms of the same Name for Him.

A study on the Names of God is very eye-opening!

Jesus,... there's just something about that name.

 

[Razeontherock]

If I had to guess, I would say He doesn't object to that one at all ;)

 

[JohnDB]

Yeshuah is correct. But nobody really understands who you are talking about unless you say Jesus.

 

[UberMink]

The reason why I'm asking this question is because I've heard all three of these names used for our Lord and Savior. Four if you count Emmanuel. So which is it because all four of these names have very different spellings even if they all basically mean the same thing. How did Yeshua turn into Jesus anyway and why don't we just call Him by His real name?

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the LORD himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23 23"The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Emmanuel" (which means "God with us").
God giving the son of man, the only begotten son of God, the name of Emmanuel meant to convey God's promised protection upon the house of David.
Mary his mother was of the royal line of the house of David as we read in Matthew 1. Joseph, Emannuel's adopted human father , was also of the royal line of the house of David. Though his lineage traced back to David's son who was Nathan. Look in Luke 3 for this proof.
These characteristics had to be present for Emmanuel to fulfill the prophecy of Messiah. Emmanuel, "God with us". Emmanuel is a name. It is also a calling, a recollection, as prophecy fulfilled in matters of Messiah.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

"Yeshua", is the short version for the full name, Yehoshua, which would translate to Joshua. And it means, "The LORD is Salvation." http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3091.htm
"Yeshua" became translated in the Greek to correspond with, Iesous. The Latin shortened that even more to become Iesus. And the English then translated that to read as, "Jesus".

So, it can be said the name Emmanuel is the identifier of old testament prophecy of Messiah, The Word, fulfilled in the new covenant to come, with us. Being that the Bible is not The Word that is God. But rather the words of God.
Yehoshua, is the single word identifier of his purpose. The LORD is Salvation.

If you wanted to conflate them all it would then deliver a single truth. God with us the LORD is Salvation.

 

[Jim Parker]

The reason why I'm asking this question is because I've heard all three of these names used for our Lord and Savior. Four if you count Emmanuel. So which is it because all four of these names have very different spellings even if they all basically mean the same thing. How did Yeshua turn into Jesus anyway and why don't we just call Him by His real name?

Yeshua is the Hebrew name which in English is Joshua.
That was Jesus name.
In Greek it is "Ἰησοῦς" (Pronounced EEE-soos)
We use the Greek word and translate it into English as Jesus.

Edit by Stovebolts

So, if you're talking to an English speaking person, they will know exactly who it is that you are talking about if you say "Jesus." That works for everyone.


iakov the fool

 

[ezra]

use the name of Jesus you will be fine

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the LORD himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23 23"The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Emmanuel" (which means "God with us").
God giving the son of man, the only begotten son of God, the name of Emmanuel meant to convey God's promised protection upon the house of David.
Mary his mother was of the royal line of the house of David as we read in Matthew 1. Joseph, Emannuel's adopted human father , was also of the royal line of the house of David. Though his lineage traced back to David's son who was Nathan. Look in Luke 3 for this proof.
These characteristics had to be present for Emmanuel to fulfill the prophecy of Messiah. Emmanuel, "God with us". Emmanuel is a name. It is also a calling, a recollection, as prophecy fulfilled in matters of Messiah.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

"Yeshua", is the short version for the full name, Yehoshua, which would translate to Joshua. And it means, "The LORD is Salvation." http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3091.htm
"Yeshua" became translated in the Greek to correspond with, Iesous. The Latin shortened that even more to become Iesus. And the English then translated that to read as, "Jesus".

So, it can be said the name Emmanuel is the identifier of old testament prophecy of Messiah, The Word, fulfilled in the new covenant to come, with us. Being that the Bible is not The Word that is God. But rather the words of God.
Yehoshua, is the single word identifier of his purpose. The LORD is Salvation.

If you wanted to conflate them all it would then deliver a single truth. God with us the LORD is Salvation.

Wow, I had no idea that I would have so many responses already. I had to wake up early for my baptism, so I'm already falling asleep lol but it was sure worth it anyway. However, I just wanted to quickly point out here that although Emmanuel was originally just a title that our Lord was called, it has devolved into a name as well as Noel and even Messiah. Although that last name made headlines due to contriversary, I actually believe it to be a nice name if that's all it is used for. I mean there are people in Mexico naming their boys Jesus but with a different pronoucation. Heaven has become a recent name for girls as well. It's not my favorite but I have got to say that it has grown on me.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Yeshua is the Hebrew name which in English is Joshua.
That was Jesus name.
In Greek it is "Ἰησοῦς" (Pronounced EEE-soos)
We use the Greek word and translate it into English as Jesus.


So, if you're talking to an English speaking person, they will know exactly who it is that you are talking about if you say "Jesus." That works for everyone.


iakov the fool

You have no earthly idea why I or the other member use Yashua instead of Jesus. You missed I believe. Neither I nor the other poster are full of ourselves but you will need to approach him for why he chooses to use the Paleo-Hebrew name vof our LORD but as for this Pumped up 73 year old Punk, I never knew the real name of Yashua but having served and visited a number of foreign nations and having served eight years I know it is important to get the spelling and the enunciation correct.

So that all can understand, one of our greatly educated members, it matters not. He grew up privileged and I grew up Poor White Trash and to change the outcome of my growing years, I had a Wino by a cheep, cheep bottle of whiskey to get my birth father to sign my document of consent and I, with bald face, lied to my mother, promising to send her a portion of my income while she remained in Prison her on her ninth turn there for her signature on that document. I was in the ninth grade studying Eighth Grade English Lit. so in reality, I did not eve graduate the Eighth Grade and to this day, as I did, I despise English Lit. it is not a man's subject.

I use Yashua since I received my artificial leather bound copy of the Hallelujah Scriptures where the names of our God, the names of the people and certain important items such as blessing, qadosh, and the names of the books are listed and presented in both languages, it is a teacher's tool as are any good translations.

From the day I converted I have done my best to never quench the Spirit and I have discovered a close walk with YHWH, a walk to, without question, honor Him and to seek to live our lives, completely under His hand will draw unto that man or woman can expect to be called Self Righteous and in some case will be accused of being Full of Themselves.

As for others, I cannot speak nor should I try but I am not offended but knowing it now, I am not too old to learn and having learned to choose to call the Saviour by His proper name, Yashuah ha'Mashia. I pray for learning minds that will not Soft Shoe Dance the word of YHWH. Yashua has written/inspired all of the Christian Bible and when the hard teachings confronted, there is nowhere in our Instructions to live fotr Him, I can find nowhere He has instructed us to Soft Shoe on any issue. In my younger days I had a Cajun friend that danced in Wooden Dutch Shoes. His favorite Joint to dance in was a wooden structure with an Oak, Hardwood floor that stretched from the road out over the swamp and when he danced the snake and gators, for miles around, I'm sure went under water to avoid the rapid fire of the Machine Gun they could hear. Yashuah has called us to be a presence such as my bud with the shoes, not little mice hiding in a corner.

 

[JohnDB]

My mother in law hated the name "Granny".
Absolutely detested the term... wished to be called "Grandmother"
But when I taught my son to call her "Ganny" she lost her angst towards the name as she loved him too much to get caught up in pronunciation and titles.

Today she is dead and gone. My son all growed up too. But he still refers to her by the name I taught him. He still loves her.

Pronunciation has nothing to do with love. Loving in a child-like fashion is... good.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

My mother in law hated the name "Granny".
Absolutely detested the term... wished to be called "Grandmother"
But when I taught my son to call her "Ganny" she lost her angst towards the name as she loved him too much to get caught up in pronunciation and titles.

Today she is dead and gone. My son all growed up too. But he still refers to her by the name I taught him. He still loves her.

Pronunciation has nothing to do with love. Loving in a child-like fashion is... good.

Amen. I also have seen another member on here reference God the Father as Abba which I learned is another word or term for Daddy and I find that rather sweet.

 

[for_his_glory]

There are over 200+ names for Jesus as He has always been before the foundation of the world. There is nothing that He speaks that doesn't come from God, John 12:44-49. Whatever the name it is all of Gods attributes throughout the scriptures.

http://www.gotquestions.org/names-of-God.html

EL, ELOAH: God "mighty, strong, prominent" (Nehemiah 9:17; Psalm 139:19) – etymologically, El appears to mean “power,” as in “I have the power to harm you” (Genesis 31:29). El is associated with other qualities, such as integrity (Numbers 23:19), jealousy (Deuteronomy 5:9), and compassion (Nehemiah 9:31), but the root idea of “might” remains.

ELOHIM: God “Creator, Mighty and Strong” (Genesis 17:7; Jeremiah 31:33) – the plural form of Eloah, which accommodates the doctrine of the Trinity. From the Bible’s first sentence, the superlative nature of God’s power is evident as God (Elohim) speaks the world into existence (Genesis 1:1).

EL SHADDAI: “God Almighty,” “The Mighty One of Jacob” (Genesis 49:24; Psalm 132:2,5) – speaks to God’s ultimate power over all.

ADONAI: “Lord” (Genesis 15:2; Judges 6:15) – used in place of YHWH, which was thought by the Jews to be too sacred to be uttered by sinful men. In the Old Testament, YHWH is more often used in God’s dealings with His people, while Adonai is used more when He deals with the Gentiles.

YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH: “LORD” (Deuteronomy 6:4; Daniel 9:14) – strictly speaking, the only proper name for God. Translated in English Bibles “LORD” (all capitals) to distinguish it from Adonai, “Lord.” The revelation of the name is first given to Moses “I Am who I Am” (Exodus 3:14). This name specifies an immediacy, a presence. Yahweh is present, accessible, near to those who call on Him for deliverance (Psalm 107:13), forgiveness (Psalm 25:11) and guidance (Psalm 31:3).

YAHWEH-JIREH: "The Lord Will Provide" (Genesis 22:14) – the name memorialized by Abraham when God provided the ram to be sacrificed in place of Isaac.

YAHWEH-RAPHA: "The Lord Who Heals" (Exodus 15:26) – “I am Jehovah who heals you” both in body and soul. In body, by preserving from and curing diseases, and in soul, by pardoning iniquities.

YAHWEH-NISSI: "The Lord Our Banner" (Exodus 17:15), where banner is understood to be a rallying place. This name commemorates the desert victory over the Amalekites in Exodus 17.

YAHWEH-M'KADDESH: "The Lord Who Sanctifies, Makes Holy" (Leviticus 20:8; Ezekiel 37:28) – God makes it clear that He alone, not the law, can cleanse His people and make them holy.

YAHWEH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace" (Judges 6:24) – the name given by Gideon to the altar he built after the Angel of the Lord assured him he would not die as he thought he would after seeing Him.

YAHWEH-ELOHIM: "LORD God" (Genesis 2:4; Psalm 59:5) – a combination of God’s unique name YHWH and the generic “Lord,” signifying that He is the Lord of Lords.

YAHWEH-TSIDKENU: "The Lord Our Righteousness” (Jeremiah 33:16) – As with YHWH-M’Kaddesh, it is God alone who provides righteousness to man, ultimately in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ, who became sin for us “that we might become the Righteousness of God in Him” (2 Corinthians 5:21).

YAHWEH-ROHI: "The Lord Our Shepherd" (Psalm 23:1) – After David pondered his relationship as a shepherd to his sheep, he realized that was exactly the relationship God had with him, and so he declares, “Yahweh-Rohi is my Shepherd. I shall not want” (Psalm 23:1).

YAHWEH-SHAMMAH: "The Lord Is There” (Ezekiel 48:35) – the name ascribed to Jerusalem and the Temple there, indicating that the once-departed glory of the Lord (Ezekiel 8—11) had returned (Ezekiel 44:1-4).

YAHWEH-SABAOTH: "The Lord of Hosts" (Isaiah 1:24; Psalm 46:7) – Hosts means “hordes,” both of angels and of men. He is Lord of the host of heaven and of the inhabitants of the earth, of Jews and Gentiles, of rich and poor, master and slave. The name is expressive of the majesty, power, and authority of God and shows that He is able to accomplish what He determines to do.
http://www.gotquestions.org/names-of-God.html

EL ELYON: “Most High" (Deuteronomy 26:19) – derived from the Hebrew root for “go up” or “ascend,” so the implication is of that which is the very highest. El Elyon denotes exaltation and speaks of absolute right to lordship.

EL ROI: "God of Seeing" (Genesis 16:13) – the name ascribed to God by Hagar, alone and desperate in the wilderness after being driven out by Sarah (Genesis 16:1-14). When Hagar met the Angel of the Lord, she realized she had seen God Himself in a theophany. She also realized that El Roi saw her in her distress and testified that He is a God who lives and sees all.

EL-OLAM: "Everlasting God" (Psalm 90:1-3) – God’s nature is without beginning or end, free from all constraints of time, and He contains within Himself the very cause of time itself. “From everlasting to everlasting, You are God.”

EL-GIBHOR: “Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6) – the name describing the Messiah, Christ Jesus, in this prophetic portion of Isaiah. As a powerful and mighty warrior, the Messiah, the Mighty God, will accomplish the destruction of God’s enemies and rule with a rod of iron (Revelation 19:15).

 

[Jim Parker]

You have no earthly idea why I or the other member use Yashua instead of Jesus.

I apologize for any offense.
You are certainly NOT a poser.
(That part got edited out,by the way for exactly this cause.)
Mea culpa.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Jim, we're cool.

 

[Razeontherock]

Amen. I also have seen another member on here reference God the Father as Abba which I learned is another word or term for Daddy and I find that rather sweet.

Romans 8:15. you have received the spirit of adoption whereby we cry Abba, Father

 

[Razeontherock]

April, you should bookmark the link in ForHisGlory's post. Those times when you struggle with doubt, turn to this and read up on the provided Scripture passages, seeing the stories of how people came to know God in these various ways. It'll help!

I also like the Name Yeshua Ha Maschiah, which is also the name of a song by Scott Wesley Brown and it is on YouTube. I find that song can stir up Faith

 

[Papa Zoom]

My grandkids call me papa. When they heard a friend refer to their grandfather, they ask their mom if they had a grandpa too. "Your papa is your grandfather. You just call him papa." They called me grandfather, grandpa, gramps for about a week or two. Then back to papa. Sometimes pops. I like papa best. But pops is fine too.

His name is Jesus because that's all I ever knew Him as growing up. The other names are interesting but I call Him Jesus.