Jesus promise: Recipients of eternal life will never perish!

[FreeGrace]

John 10:28 - I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

The first phrase "I give them eternal life" identifies recipients of the gift of eternal life (Rom 6:23).

The second phrase "they shall never perish" is the promise of Jesus. So, the direct result of being a recipient of eternal life is that they shall never perish.

Note that Jesus added no contingencies, conditions, or requirements beyond simply being a recipient of eternal life for the promise of never perishing.

This promise clarifies any misunderstanding of John 5:24 where some claim that only those who "currently" believe have eternal life and will not be condemned.

That claim is untrue because the Greek present tense doesn't mean "on-going action" or "continuous action out into the future".

It only means "right now", or "currently", or "presently".

So, John 5:24 and John 10:28 are saying the exact same thing. When one believes, they are given eternal life. And will never perish, which is based on simply being the recipient of eternal life.

These verses teach that we are saved by believing in Jesus Christ.
Luke 8:12 "Those beside the road are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their heart, so that they will not believe and be saved.

Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

Acts 11:14 and he will speak words to you by which you will be saved, you and all your household.'

Acts 16:31- They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

Rom 10:9, 10
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

2 Tim 3:15 and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 1:5 who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

1 Peter 1:9 obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.

These verses teach that receiving eternal life is based on believing in Christ:

John 3:15-16
15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. 16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

John 5:24 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

John 6:40 "For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day."

John 6:47 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord

1 Tim 1:16 Yet for this reason I found mercy, so that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ might demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those who would believe in Him for eternal life.

Gal 3:22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

1 John 5:13 - These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

We know that those who believe in Christ are given etenral life. We know that those who are given eternal life are recipients of eternal life. And we know that recipients will never perish.

This is eternal security.

 

[Kidron]

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2 reasons you cant lose your salvation is not only because you cant be "unborn again" but also because its not yours to lose.
Salvation is not of you.
Instead its all of God, who has applied it to you, by actually recreating you to be as Righteous as He is, ... and then (through the Atonement) He takes away the only thing that could cause you to become unrighteous again, and that is the LAW.
So, on one hand, you are become "The righteousness of God in Christ", and then the Law is removed from you and Grace is become the "law" for you now.
So, you are made clean by God's Righteousness becoming yours and you are kept safe from your sins by the removal of the only situation (Law) that could create you to be unrighteous.
Cant undo it., and because your salvation is not based on your faith, but instead its based on God saving you once and forever through your faith, the one time you gave it to Him, then later if you are not perfect, or if you backslide, or if you are worse, this has nothing to do with your salvation, it only has to do with your DISCIPLESHIP.

 

[FreeGrace]

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2 reasons you cant lose your salvation is not only because you cant be "unborn again" but also because its not yours to lose.
Salvation is not of you.
Instead its all of God, who has applied it to you, by actually recreating you to be as Righteous as He is, ... and then (through the Atonement) He takes away the only thing that could cause you to become unrighteous again, and that is the LAW.
So, on one hand, you are become "The righteousness of God in Christ", and then the Law is removed from you and Grace is become the "law" for you now.
So, you are made clean by God's Righteousness becoming yours and you are kept safe from your sins by the removal of the only situation (Law) that could create you to be unrighteous.
Cant undo it., and because your salvation is not based on your faith, but instead its based on God saving you once and forever through your faith, the one time you gave it to Him, then later if you are not perfect, or if you backslide, or if you are worse, this has nothing to do with your salvation, it only has to do with your DISCIPLESHIP.

Amen!!

 

[Nathan]

Rom 3:10-28
as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one;
no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.”
“Their throat is an open grave;
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
“Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
in their paths are ruin and misery,
and the way of peace they have not known.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

The one who has faith in Jesus is the one who is justified. No work done by human will - not even self willed belief - will justify a person before God. Only those in Christ are saved from the wrath to come.

This is brought to us by the gift of God, which is faith in Christ, not of our own self - but because He made us alive together with Christ - so that no boasting can happen. It is excluded by the law of faith - God's sovereign law.

1Jo 5:11-12
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

1Jo 3:5-10
You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

We must defend the faith that it is God who saved us, not works done by us. He saved us in His Son, and only in His Son there is life. We will not have eternal life apart from Christ. Eternal Security is in Him, by faith. We cannot leave the faith and retain eternal life.

 

[FreeGrace]

The one who has faith in Jesus is the one who is justified. No work done by human will - not even self willed belief - will justify a person before God. Only those in Christ are saved from the wrath to come.

All true. But how is any of this related to the OP?

This is brought to us by the gift of God, which is faith in Christ, not of our own self

Paul disagrees with this statement. The gift of God is salvation: For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— Eph 2:8

The "it is the gift of God" refers back to "have been saved", or our salvation. That's the gift. Not faith.

- but because He made us alive together with Christ - so that no boasting can happen.

So, who's boasting otherwise?

We must defend the faith that it is God who saved us, not works done by us.

You're preaching to the choir.

He saved us in His Son, and only in His Son there is life. We will not have eternal life apart from Christ. Eternal Security is in Him, by faith.

Quite true.

We cannot leave the faith and retain eternal life.

Quite false. Because of Jesus' promise that recipients of eternal life WILL NEVER PERISH. Jn 10:28

iow, by the simple reception of eternal life, one will never perish. If that is not what Jesus was promising in that verse, please explain thoroughly what he was promising.

 

[Nathan]

Salvation is not even a word in Ephesians 2:8-9.

Maybe it will help if we look at a different translation?

HCSB
For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God’s gift

Paul is saying that "this" faith is not a faith that you made up - it is God's gift.

Rom 5:15-17
But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.

People who trust in their ability to believe are relying on their own work to save them. The free gift of God is righteousness through faith - that is what we should believe in.

 

[GodsGrace]

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2 reasons you cant lose your salvation is not only because you cant be "unborn again" but also because its not yours to lose.
Salvation is not of you.
Instead its all of God, who has applied it to you, by actually recreating you to be as Righteous as He is, ... and then (through the Atonement) He takes away the only thing that could cause you to become unrighteous again, and that is the LAW.
So, on one hand, you are become "The righteousness of God in Christ", and then the Law is removed from you and Grace is become the "law" for you now.
So, you are made clean by God's Righteousness becoming yours and you are kept safe from your sins by the removal of the only situation (Law) that could create you to be unrighteous.
Cant undo it., and because your salvation is not based on your faith, but instead its based on God saving you once and forever through your faith, the one time you gave it to Him, then later if you are not perfect, or if you backslide, or if you are worse, this has nothing to do with your salvation, it only has to do with your DISCIPLESHIP.

Hey Kidron,

You said that the only thing that could cause us to lose our salvation by becoming unrighteous again is the LAW.

I know I worded it a bit differently. OR, do you believe that one COULD BE unrighteous and still be saved?
Our righteousness is of God and not of ourselves. No need to get into that.

Then you say Grace is become the Law.

I'd say that we are not under the Commandments of the Law but
under the commandments of Grace.

We still have to obey the commandments---it's just that we are under Grace, as were the Israelites, but we now have a helper, the Holy Spirit. Jesus said He would never leave us nor forsake us; in fact, when He left to go to the Father, He sent the HolySpirit to be with us, as a Church -- His Body.
Mathew 5:17
Mathew 28:20

So what happens if we don't obey the commandments because we decide we don't love God anymore, or we don't want to follow Him? What happens if we are no longer in Christ and no longer have His righteousness?

You said we are kept safe from sins by removal of the Law. But the Law is what made us aware of our sins.
What keeps us safe from our sins is Jesus and His blood and His covering.

Then you say our salvation is not based on our faith.
What is it based on?
Epesians 2:8
We are saved THROUGH faith.

 

[FreeGrace]

Salvation is not even a word in Ephesians 2:8-9.

Correct. What does "have been saved" refer to?

Maybe it will help if we look at a different translation?

HCSB
For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God’s gift

Paul is saying that "this" faith is not a faith that you made up - it is God's gift.

No. What does "you are saved" refer to?

People who trust in their ability to believe are relying on their own work to save them.

How can this be? Paul was clear about the difference between works and faith. They AREN'T the same.
Rom 4:4-6
4 Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. 5 However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.

Is the difference clear now?

The free gift of God is righteousness through faith - that is what we should believe in.

No, we should believe in the work of Jesus who died for our sins and gives the gift of eternal life to those who believe. And believe His promise that recipients of eternal life will never perish.

 

[FreeGrace]

Epesians 2:8
We are saved THROUGH faith.

Are those who are saved through faith recipients of eternal life?

 

[GodsGrace]

Are those who are saved through faith recipients of eternal life?

Yes.
Those who ARE saved by faith DO HAVE eternal life.

Faith saves.

You have Faith..............You're saved
You don't have Faith.... You're not saved.

Do you believe a person can NEVER fall away, or do you believe that even if they DO fall away, they're still saved?

 

[FreeGrace]

Yes.
Those who ARE saved by faith DO HAVE eternal life.

Jesus promised that recipients of eternal life will never perish in Jn 10:28. Is this eternal life, or not?

Faith saves.

No, God saves those who believe. 1 Cor 1:21

You have Faith..............You're saved
You don't have Faith.... You're not saved.

True. But once a recipient, one will never perish. Because Jesus promised.

Do you believe a person can NEVER fall away, or do you believe that even if they DO fall away, they're still saved?

Since Jesus promised recipients of eternal life that they will never perish, I believe the answer to your question should be very obvious.

Once saved and given eternal life, always saved and will never perish.

That's what the Bible says.

 

[Nathan]

Correct. What does "have been saved" refer to?


No. What does "you are saved" refer to?


How can this be? Paul was clear about the difference between works and faith. They AREN'T the same.
Rom 4:4-6
4 Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. 5 However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.

Is the difference clear now?


No, we should believe in the work of Jesus who died for our sins and gives the gift of eternal life to those who believe. And believe His promise that recipients of eternal life will never perish.

Interesting. You do not think we should believe in the free gift of God, righteousness in Christ? You think we should believe in something we did, and something we get from that doing?

A "work" is anything you 'do' to earn something - ANYTHING you do. There were some, and still are some, who think that just because they were born heirs of Abraham that they get the promises.

"you are saved" refers back to what Paul said previously -

Eph 2:1-3
And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

We "are saved" from the dead works and sins in which we once walked. Praise God, He saved us from those things - not based on anything we did - but because He chose to. We were 'dead' in those things, doing those things, and God - rich in mercy and grace - chose to take us from those things, save us, and give us the faith to believe.

 

[GodsGrace]

Jesus promised that recipients of eternal life will never perish in Jn 10:28. Is this eternal life, or not?


No, God saves those who believe. 1 Cor 1:21


True. But once a recipient, one will never perish. Because Jesus promised.


Since Jesus promised recipients of eternal life that they will never perish, I believe the answer to your question should be very obvious.

Once saved and given eternal life, always saved and will never perish.

That's what the Bible says.

We've been through this FG.

You know what I wonder??
Why it's so important to you.

If you love Jesus and are saved, why do you care if it's forever?
Don't you plan on loving Him forever?

Eternal salvation is NOT taught by the bible.
It was invented by J. Calvin. I don't know why. Maybe he wanted to sin and still be saved?
That seems to be what my side always gets accused of so maybe I'll start thinking it. Might as well.

So, You think you could BELIEVE ONCE. And go back to a life of SIN, NEGATE God, Abandon Him, and the person would still be saved?

So Jesus was not a liar when he said John 10:28 BUT He WAS a liar when He said ALL THOSE THINGS in Mathew chapters 5, 6 and 7 --- the beatitudes. Why did He waste His breath? If we could do all He said we cannot do, why did He waste time even saying all this??? I'd like to understand this.

Paul spent a lot of time on our behavior too. Most love the beginning of Romans but have you read Romans chapters 12 to15?
You don't like those chapters? WHY did Paul spend so much time in ALL his letters explaining how we are to live.
It seems to me that he believed this to be very important. If it wasn't, he would not have spent so much time on teaching us how to live a Christianly life.

Regarding 1 Corinthians 1:21...
You seem to know all about Greek,
would you say that FAITH and BELIEF have something in common?
Or are they two totally different concepts?

If you have FAITH in the elevator
Do you BELIEVE it will take you to your floor?

Just wondering.

Did you read that long link from Wikipedia re the aorist tense or did you already know all that stuff?
i do hope that the next time you speak about the aorist tense, you will at least tell us WHICH ONE.

 

[FreeGrace]

These were my questions:
"What does "have been saved" refer to?


No. What does "you are saved" refer to?"

Interesting. You do not think we should believe in the free gift of God, righteousness in Christ?

This does not meet the definition of an answer. I'll take it as a non-answer.

You think we should believe in something we did, and something we get from that doing?

We should believe in what Jesus did on our behalf.

A "work" is anything you 'do' to earn something - ANYTHING you do. There were some, and still are some, who think that just because they were born heirs of Abraham that they get the promises.

And faith, or believing in Christ is NOT a work. In any sense.

"you are saved" refers back to what Paul said previously -

Eph 2:1-3
And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

We "are saved" from the dead works and sins in which we once walked.

The point is that "you are saved" refers to salvation, which you denied that Eph 2:8 referred to salvation. But it does.

 

[GodsGrace]

Interesting. You do not think we should believe in the free gift of God, righteousness in Christ? You think we should believe in something we did, and something we get from that doing?

A "work" is anything you 'do' to earn something - ANYTHING you do. There were some, and still are some, who think that just because they were born heirs of Abraham that they get the promises.

"you are saved" refers back to what Paul said previously -

Eph 2:1-3
And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

We "are saved" from the dead works and sins in which we once walked. Praise God, He saved us from those things - not based on anything we did - but because He chose to. We were 'dead' in those things, doing those things, and God - rich in mercy and grace - chose to take us from those things, save us, and give us the faith to believe.

Ephesians 2.1-3
We are saved from slavery to satan.
Satan is death.
Jesus died and ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
He WON death. When we die now we go straight to heaven.
Jesus opened the door to Heaven. It was closed till then.
So we were also saved FOR heaven.

We are not free when lost because, even if we never sin, we'd still be slaves to our sin nature.
God would see this nature.

But as Christians we are free indeed. Able to choose to have a spirit that loves and follows God and keeps our sin nature under submission and joyfully so.
John 8:36 We are free indeed.

 

[Kidron]

Eternal salvation is NOT taught by the bible.
.

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I think what you mean is....that the term "eternal salvation" is not found in the bible.
However, "eternal life" is found in the bible, and there is no difference.
Your bible tells you that "if you have the Son, you have Life", and if you dont, you dont have life.
Yet you sit there, before you were ever saved, and you had life, didnt you?
But that is not the LIFE that you possess "if you have the SON, you have LIFE".
So, if you have Jesus, then you have >eternal life<, as He is, eternal life., He IS eternal security (not us) as nothing can be more eternally secure then Jesus AS our Eternal Life.
You cant possibly be more OSAS, then to have the One who IS Eternal lIfe, bonded to you for eternity.
And this is not a bond that can be remitted or lost.
You cant "fall out of Christ", and you cant stop being "one" with Christ because you are upset and decide that from today till you die, you dont want to be saved anymore.
It doesn't work like that.
Salvation is not dependent on your behavior or your faith level, or your attitude about it...., its only dependent on God adopting you using the Blood of Jesus, so that you have ETERNAL LIFE.
Its done.
There is no going back.
There is no "losing it", as you never got it of yourself to begin with, but rather GOD gave it to you, and its a GIFT, "the free GIFT of salvation", "the GIFT of Righteousness"... and your NT tells you that the """Gifts and Callings of God are WITHOUT REPENTANCE.""
Or at least it should, and if that verse is missing from your bible (version) then throw your bible in the trash where it needs to be.
In other words, what God does, regarding a GIFT, He never repents of it....= He never takes it back, even if you hate it, despise it, and would give it back if you could.
Born is born.
Eternal Life, is Eternal Security.
Its done.

 

[FreeGrace]

I said this:
"Jesus promised that recipients of eternal life will never perish in Jn 10:28. Is this eternal life, or not?

No, God saves those who believe. 1 Cor 1:21

True. But once a recipient, one will never perish. Because Jesus promised.

Since Jesus promised recipients of eternal life that they will never perish, I believe the answer to your question should be very obvious.

Once saved and given eternal life, always saved and will never perish.

That's what the Bible says."

We've been through this FG.

You know what I wonder??
Why it's so important to you.

That eternal security is the teaching of Jesus? Because that's what He taught. I would think everyone should

If you love Jesus and are saved, why do you care if it's forever?

Because it gives me security. If there were conditions to keep on meeting, how can anyone have any security?

Don't you plan on loving Him forever?

Sure.

Eternal salvation is NOT taught by the bible.

Well, that's what "eternal life" actually means.

It was invented by J. Calvin.

No. It was promised by Jesus Himself in John 10:28.

I don't know why. Maybe he wanted to sin and still be saved?

Who cares what he wanted. His theology strayed from the truth in a number of ways

So, You think you could BELIEVE ONCE. And go back to a life of SIN, NEGATE God, Abandon Him, and the person would still be saved?

What I believe is what Jesus said in Jn 10:28, that recipients of eternal life will never perish.

Does that promise bother?

So Jesus was not a liar when he said John 10:28 BUT He WAS a liar when He said ALL THOSE THINGS in Mathew chapters 5, 6 and 7 --- the beatitudes.

He never lied. What a horrible thought. But it seems you're charging Jesus with being contradictory.

Why did He waste His breath?

He never did.

If we could do all He said we cannot do, why did He waste time even saying all this??? I'd like to understand this.

I do not understand this question. Please re-phrase.

Paul spent a lot of time on our behavior too.

Do you know why? To be blessed in life and rewarded in eternity.

Most love the beginning of Romans but have you read Romans chapters 12 to15?

I read through Romans every month, along with every other epistle.

You don't like those chapters?

Yes. Which is why I read all of them every month.

WHY did Paul spend so much time in ALL his letters explaining how we are to live.

He wanted us to be WORTHY.

He also taught eternal security by describing eternal life as a gift of God before he said that God's gifts are irrevocable.

It seems to me that he believed this to be very important. If it wasn't, he would not have spent so much time on teaching us how to live a Christianly life.

It IS asbout how to live a Christianly life. It isn't about "how to stay saved".

Regarding 1 Corinthians 1:21...
You seem to know all about Greek,

I'm dependent upon lexicons and interlinears and Greek grammar texts. They have been very helpful.

would you say that FAITH and BELIEF have something in common?

Yes.

Or are they two totally different concepts?

No.

If you have FAITH in the elevator
Do you BELIEVE it will take you to your floor?

'Faith' is a noun, or what is believed.
Believe is a verb, the action of accepting a promise, premise, etc.

Just wondering.

I hope I've satisfied your curiosity.

Did you read that long link from Wikipedia re the aorist tense or did you already know all that stuff?

I prefer actual scholarly texts over Wikipedia.

i do hope that the next time you speak about the aorist tense, you will at least tell us WHICH ONE.

How many are you aware of?

 

[Mozart's Starling]

First off, thanks for this post. It is nice to have assurance of our salvation with direct quotes from the Bible. Since I was little I have feared damnation so it is great to see what you posted. But I have an honest question, how is the path a narrow one if you're saved the second you set on it (by accepting Jesus). That confuses me. Not trying to be annoying just seeking understanding.

 

[Nathan]

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I think what you mean is....that the term "eternal salvation" is not found in the bible.
However, "eternal life" is found in the bible, and there is no difference.
Your bible tells you that "if you have the Son, you have Life", and if you dont, you dont have life.
Yet you sit there, before you were ever saved, and you had life, didnt you?
But that is not the LIFE that you possess "if you have the SON, you have LIFE".
So, if you have Jesus, then you have >eternal life<, as He is, eternal life., He IS eternal security (not us) and nothing can be more eternally secure then Jesus AS our Eternal Life.
You cant possibly be more OSAS, then to have the One who IS Eternal lIfe, bonded to you for eternity.
And this is not a bond that can be remitted or lost.
You cant "fall out of Christ", and you cant stop being "one" with Christ because you are upset and decide that from today till you die, you dont want to be saved anymore.
It doesn't work like that.
Salvation is not dependent on your behavior or your faith level, or your attitude about it...., its only dependent on God adopting you using the Blood of Jesus, so that you have ETERNAL LIFE.
Its done.
There is no going back.
There is no "losing it", as you never got it of yourself to begin with, but rather GOD gave it to you, and its a GIFT, "the free GIFT of salvation", "the GIFT of Righteousness"... and your NT tells you that the """Gifts and Callings of God are WITHOUT REPENTANCE.""
Or at least it should, and if that verse is missing from your bible then throw your bible in the trash where it needs to be.
In other words, what God does, regarding a GIFT, He never repents of it....= He never takes it back, even if you hate it, despise it, and would give it back if you could.
Born is born.
Eternal Life, is Eternal Security.
Its done.

Problem is, you can leave Christ. There is no where it is taught that a person in Christ cannot forsake Him. It is only taught that He will not forsake us. It is taught that we should not deny Him, and that He will never deny us.

Gal 5:4
You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.

2Pe 2:1-3
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

2Pe 2:15-22
Forsaking the right way, they have gone astray. They have followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved gain from wrongdoing, but was rebuked for his own transgression; a speechless donkey spoke with human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness. These are waterless springs and mists driven by a storm. For them the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved. For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves[fn] of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved. For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”

 

[FreeGrace]

First off, thanks for this post. It is nice to have assurance of our salvation with direct quotes from the Bible. Since I was little I have feared damnation so it is great to see what you posted. But I have an honest question, how is the path a narrow one if you're saved the second you set on it (by accepting Jesus). That confuses me. Not trying to be annoying just seeking understanding.

Good question. The narrow path refers to the fact that Jesus is the ONLY WAY to heaven, which is what Jesus said in John 14:6 -
John 14:6 - Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.