Jesus Used Vitamins When He Created Body. He Did Not Use Drugs.

[His_nee (Jeff)]

we went to doctors in st.louis, rolla, tulsa, texas, and clinics and hospitals over and over and over again.

when urgent, usually for a IV of water. >>> sorry it's so 'technical' ... >>> "re-hydration" and it solved the problem within 30 minutes, for that day.

not one of hundreds of doctors, all licensed by the state and feds etc etc etc --- i.e. regular official medicos
not one of them told us what was going on.

they simply 'solved' the immediate problem, whatever it was at the time, and sent us on.

FOR SEVEN YEARS. (and so many false diagnoses I've lost count)

then,

LIGHT ! LIGHT ! LIGHT ! LIGHT ! LIGHT ! LIGHT ! LIGHT ! LIGHT ! LIGHT ! ........ er.... did I say "LIGHT!"
........................................ ..................................................... ..............................( )

YES! ..... after calling a support group listed in the public local newspaper(they had a full page listing over a hundred support groups for the area),
to see how anyone else managed to 'SURVIVE!!!' debilitating pain and vomiting and dehydration without known cause,
TA DA ! SHALOM SHALOM SHALOM SHALOM SHALOM SHALOM SHALOM !!!! as answer from GOD!

after SEVEN YEARS (did I mention that already?), in 10 minutes on the phone with someone we never ever got to see, in 10 minutes on the phone with someone relatively anonymous from a newspaper listing,
in 10 minutes on the phone with someone who answered the line in person,
in 10 minutes on the phone with someone who represented other PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED likewise,

in 10 minutes, we found out what it was, and what to do. (and it worked!!!! ) (and has continued to work all naturally and simply and inexpensively and UNDER THE DOCTORS CARE (never stopped going to the doctors..... just had to TELL THEM WHAT TO TEST FOR AND WHAT TO DO) ) (and they did, and it worked)

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

[QUOTE=Original thread title]Jesus Used Vitamins When He Created Body. He Did Not Use Drugs.

(Emphasis by TOG)

Let's see... First you ask a totally illogical question, and then, when someone points out how illogical it is, you change the subject. Hmmm...

And then look at this...


The Monsanto company was founded by John Francis Queeny. He gave the company his wife's maiden name. His father in law was Emmanuel Mendes de Monsanto. As with most (if not all) names that have "de" or "da" in them (as well as "von", "van" and a few others), the last part of the name indicates where the family is from. In this case, the family traces it's roots back to Monsanto, Portuagal. The name of the town is derived from the Latin name "Mons Santos", which means "Holy Mountain", referring to a mountain near the town. But I guess recognizing that the "santos" in "Monsantos" means "holy" doesn't fit your agenda, so you make up a different definition that suits you. If you want to know more, you can read about the history of the company here and about the town here. Be careful though, you might learn something that doesn't fit.

The TOG​

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someone else brought up monsanto, I don't care who they are(for this thread) --- it looks unimportant.(other than if they are like the others)

illogical or logical. what is the question. God has His ways of doing things. Everyone else has their ways. Guess who is right ! .......... (hint: it is not mankind nor society )

God didn't use and doesn't use the bad things that He doesn't want to use. Does that help ? simple and to the point.
for that matter, He doesn't use the good things that He doesn't want to use either. quirky, isn't He ?

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

To me you have yet to answer by scripture why for instance you shouldn't use chlorinated water.

fair enough question - or is it a question ? please show me where I said I don't use chlorinated water . (p.s. I do, but as little as possible btw, because of the unhealthy things it does ) But back to your statement. What's the 'real' question --- or is it from another thread ?

 

[Kathi]

I am glad Jeff that your problem was resolved

 

[jasonc]

I don't use chlorinated water in my home. I have reverse osmosis water. I wouldn't recommend doing that for a long time. we normally put water softener salts in it but haven't this past few weeks. I use Gatorade mixed with the stuff for work.

 

[TOG]

God didn't use and doesn't use the bad things that He doesn't want to use.

True, but you don't get to decide what things are "bad". God does. God's Word does not condemn the use of medicine. On the contrary, it says medicine is good.

A merry heart doeth good like a medicine (Prov. 17:22 KJV)
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That says that medicines can do good. And just in case you think that doesn't include man-made medicine, there's this...

No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments. (I Tim. 5:23 ESV)​

Wine was used as a medicine in the first century, and it's man-made. The Bible doesn't prohibit or condemn the use of medicines. It actually encourages their use.

The TOG​

 

[Eugene]

fair enough question - or is it a question ? please show me where I said I don't use chlorinated water . (p.s. I do, but as little as possible btw, because of the unhealthy things it does ) But back to your statement. What's the 'real' question --- or is it from another thread ?

Was chlorine in the garden to protect its inhabitants from pollutants? Isn't that what you have been saying; if it wasn't in Eden, it's not what God would have us to eat if we know truth?

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

baby steps, yes. if you learn the truth, you, too, will be shocked, dismayed, devastated, and overcome with sorrow at the wickedness man has perpetrated on man. if you don't learn the truth, if you don't seek the truth anyway, then don't worry, it won't bother you.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

shalom in yeshua kathi ---- it was a long tedious and treacherous (among men) journey, full of grace to survive along the way. Yeshua brought us safely through it all.
Yeshua's Promise >>>
Luke 22 (Common English Bible)31 "Simon, Simon, look! Satan has asserted the right to sift you all like wheat. 32 However, I have prayed for you that your faith won't fail. When you have returned, strengthen your brothers and sisters."

 

[Edward]

Maybe it was a poor thread title, but i think the premise of the thread has been missed somehow, and the brother taken to task unnecessarily on what are moot points. I think the premise is that there are natural ways to live, get our nutrition and even be healed rather than by using man made synthetic medicines and cures. Even wine can be said to be man made but is certainly not synthetic.

Question; Does it really matter what we eat (food wise) if we give, thanks, ask the Lords blessing and sanctification upon the food that we are about to eat? That's what I do.

 

[Claudya]

Maybe it was a poor thread title, but i think the premise of the thread has been missed somehow, and the brother taken to task unnecessarily on what are moot points. I think the premise is that there are natural ways to live, get our nutrition and even be healed rather than by using man made synthetic medicines and cures. Even wine can be said to be man made but is certainly not synthetic.

Question; Does it really matter what we eat (food wise) if we give, thanks, ask the Lords blessing and sanctification upon the food that we are about to eat? That's what I do.

I agree with the first part of your post completely.
As for the last part, yeah I do think it matters. Although everything may be in God's hand, treating our body (the temple of His spirit) poorly by feeding it junk food is not a sign of respect towards the life He gave us.

 

[Kathi]

There is a ton of chlorine in the drinking water where I live.I can smell it.I don't drink it.I only drink bottled water that has been processed with Reverse Omosis.

 

[jasonc]

There is a ton of chlorine in the drinking water where I live.I can smell it.I don't drink it.I only drink bottled water that has been processed with Reverse Omosis.

reverse osmisos water in large amounts is deadly. It removes electrolytes from the body. you will think you are getting the hydration you need when the effects will be the opposite.

 

[Edward]

I agree with the first part of your post completely.
As for the last part, yeah I do think it matters. Although everything may be in God's hand, treating our body (the temple of His spirit) poorly by feeding it junk food is not a sign of respect towards the life He gave us.

Well, I do eat as good as I can. I'm no junk food junkie by any means, though I do like a good chocolate bar, lol. The real food selection is getting very sparse at the grocery store I notice. hint, the real food is mostly around the edges of the store, so one has to walk past all of the junk food to get to it. But even the veggies are tainted nowadays with the GMO's and stuff so I do think blessing it is in order. There is real food around to be had, but dang! Who can afford to eat totally organic in todays economy?

I wish I could afford a R.O. water unit. That would be all I drank too if I could.

 

[jasonc]

Well, I do eat as good as I can. I'm no junk food junkie by any means, though I do like a good chocolate bar, lol. The real food selection is getting very sparse at the grocery store I notice. hint, the real food is mostly around the edges of the store, so one has to walk past all of the junk food to get to it. But even the veggies are tainted nowadays with the GMO's and stuff so I do think blessing it is in order. There is real food around to be had, but dang! Who can afford to eat totally organic in todays economy?

I wish I could afford a R.O. water unit. That would be all I drank too if I could.

home ro are about 6 grand plus filters. many water grids do that already.

the one I work for does, and the other one im one does as well. they both add salts and what is needed.i know many on the water side and where to go to ask.

 

[jasonc]

http://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/reverse-osmosis-water.html

 

[Edward]

home ro are about 6 grand plus filters. many water grids do that already.

the one I work for does, and the other one im one does as well. they both add salts and what is needed.i know many on the water side and where to go to ask.

6 grand?! Whoa. Can you say retail rake? I can get one of the small undersink types in the plumbing supply house for about 6 hundred, and can't afford that!

 

[Kathi]

reverse osmisos water in large amounts is deadly. It removes electrolytes from the body. you will think you are getting the hydration you need when the effects will be the opposite.

Not if you are getting the vitamins and minerals that you need in vitamins and the food you eat.

 

[jasonc]

Not if you are getting the vitamins and minerals that you need in vitamins and the food you eat.

read the link, the company that sold me that didn't tell that. see the part where it says the water went from slightly akeline(good) to bad where its now acidic. pure water does what? it removes elecrolytes. the solution Is to simply add the salts back in. that is why I mentioned it. no ro company sells that without recommending that water softener addition. the sink units are cheaper but the filters are as much as the unit!


it has the same effects.

http://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/drinking-distilled-water.html

leaches mineral out of the body. long before I got ro I know what it was and the person whom taught me did a lot of chemistry in school and fish farming they made pure water by electrosis and also used ro and they had to mineralize or the fish would have problems. she explained to me that water does draw in minerals to it naturally. it will pull them from you.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

Not if you are getting the vitamins and minerals that you need in vitamins and the food you eat.

good point. it's easy to tell if someone has a good diet. #1 they don't get sick, argue, quarrel or get divorced. #2 this was proven long ago, but no, there are not any references at this point nor a bibliography for the information. However, God Promises that if anyone seeks Him, they will find out the Truth. So, if anyone wants to know the Truth, seek God. (don't expect a satisfactory answer from man; and don't trust man)