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Bottom line is, Christians are those redeemed of their sins through the grace of God in Christ. They are no longer ever to be judged as sinners because they are not sinners. All of Romans 6 clarifies that fact.
When those dead Christians are judged before God's Bema seat their life in Christ is reviewed. And their rewards are afforded given the judgment of their life in Christ. Scriptures have been repeatedly posted.
Those who are dead in their sins when they come before the white throne of judgment are judged for their sins. The sinner state they have is not a state the Christian is in at their judgment
this is truth those truly saved WILL NOT be judged with the lost..they are separate
 
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I will possibly not get this spot on. Theology is really a long term process.

1. Gentile / pagan
Ephesians 2:11 KJV
Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

2. Jewish had covenants of promise (which they broke)

3. Jewish people who grieved over their sins.
Ezekiel 9:4 KJV
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

4 One new man.
Ephesians 2:13 KJV
But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

At the judgement we have to be able to identify who is standing where.

At the judgement we have to identify salvation.

Acts 4:11 KJV
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

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The words "what if" introduce speculation.
But we need not speculate since Jesus gave us very clear teaching about the judgment of the resurrected wicked.
Mat 25:41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:"
and
John 5:28-29 "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation."
In neither of those statements does Jesus suggest that the resurrected wicked will "exist no more anywhere."
And at Rev 14:9-11 the torment of those who "take the mark of the beast" is eternal.
"...the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."

When Christ rose from the grave, He destroyed the power of death to permanently hold the bodies of mankind. That's why Paul quoted Isaiah 25:8 "Death is swallowed up in victory.” and Hosea 13:14 "O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?" in his teaching about the resurrection.

1Cor 15:51-57
Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory.O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?” The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Therefore, the teaching of scripture is that the resurrection is a bodily (physical) resurrection and the experience of hell continues forever.


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Those who are alive in Christ are not judged as sinners before God after they die.

The Believer’s Freedom from Sin’s Domination Letter to the Romans Chapter 6

What shall we say then? Are we to remain in sin so that grace may increase? Absolutely not! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

Or do you not know that as many as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? Therefore we have been buried with him

through baptism into death, in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too may live a new life.

For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be united in the likeness of his resurrection. We know

that our old man was crucified with him so that the body of sin would no longer dominate us, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. (For

someone who has died has been freed from sin.)

Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that since Christ has been raised from the dead, he is never going

to die again; death no longer has mastery over him. For the death he died, he died to sin once for all, but the life he lives, he lives to God. So you

too consider yourselves dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its desires, and do not present your members to sin as instruments to be used

for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who are alive from the dead and your members to God as instruments to be used for

righteousness. For sin will have no mastery over you, because you are not under law but under grace.

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Absolutely not! Do you not know that if you present yourselves as

obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or obedience resulting in righteousness? But thanks be to God

that though you were slaves to sin, you obeyed from the heart that pattern of teaching you were entrusted to, and having been freed from sin,

you became enslaved to righteousness. (I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh.) For just as you once presented

your members as slaves to impurity and lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness

leading to sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free with regard to righteousness.

So what benefit did you then reap from those things that you are now ashamed of? For the end of those things is death. But now, freed from sin

and enslaved to God, you have your benefit leading to sanctification, and the end is eternal life. For the payoff of sin is death, but the gift of God

is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:34


Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41



Here we have God's people who are gathered before His throne on the Day of Judgement.

  • Some inherit the kingdom of God.
  • Some are sentenced to hell.

The world of unbelievers are not in this Judgement, remember, that you stated that it was a separate Judgment for them.

Here is your quote from post number 46 -



and again from post number 62




Here at the Judgement seat of Christ, we see that there are both those who are welcomed into the kingdom of God, and those who are sentenced to hell.



JLB
But JLB,
He is using his Passages in context to clearly teach what scripture teaches and you are tearing, ripping scripture from their context to prove what you think.
 

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But JLB,
He is using his Passages in context to clearly teach what scripture teaches and you are tearing, ripping scripture from their context to prove what you think.

Bill, the context of this thread is the Judgement seat of Christ.


The passage of scripture I presented is about the Judgement seat of Christ.


I agree that the "unsaved" sinners are not in this Judgement.

Here the Lord Jesus Himself, teaches His disciples privately about the Day when He will return, and Judge His people.

This truth is unmistakable and undeniable:

31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:31-34


Jesus also goes on to teach us that some that are gathered before His throne at this Judgement, will not inherit the kingdom of God, but frighteningly enough, they will be sentenced to the everlasting fires of hell.

“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41


Pretty much everyone in this thread, has stated that the Judgement seat of Christ, is not for the world, but for His people.

I agree.


What I can't agree with, Bill, is that this Judgement has nothing to do with salvation.

I am presenting the scripture, that depicts this Day, and the truth it teaches.

I, for one, choose to embrace this truth, and allow it to change the way I think and believe and speak, and act, so that I will align my life, with His: with someone who will be welcome into God's kingdom on that Day, when we will all be together before His throne to be judged according to our deeds.

I want to hear these words from my Master:

‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ Matthew 25:34-36


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Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Notice there are two books opened and two judgements given as one is for the judgement of those who are not of God and have not Christ in them they will be judged for their self-righteous works, Matthew 7:21-23, and evil deeds and cast into the lake of fire. The other book is the Lamb's (Christ) Book of Life where those who are in Christ and He in them will be judged and rewarded for those righteous works of God they have done while in this present body before they are changed, Corinthians 15:51-54, but also loose some rewards for the bad things that were done in the body that were not confessed before Christ returns.

Below are the five crowns we can receive:

CROWN OF LIFE
Martyr's crown is the crown of life given to those who have endured all temptations, trials and tribulations here on earth and have never taken no thought of their own lives, but remained steadfast in the word of God living their lives in total surrender to Jesus. James 1:12; Rev 2:10

CROWN OF REJOICING
A crown of rejoicing is a soul winner’s crown. When we accept Gods commission to take his word out into the world through the power of the Holy Spirit working through us we all rejoice when one lost soul comes back to Gods grace. It’s like the story of the Shepard that had a flock of sheep and one of them strayed away. Even though he loved all his flock he rejoiced more for the lost one he found as now his whole flock was again all together. Imagine the rejoicing if all Gods lost children were found and brought back to Gods grace. What a day of rejoicing that would be. We rejoice in the goodness of God for all the blessings he pours out on us as he is faithful with his promises. 1 Thessalonians 2:19, 20; Philippians 4:1; Matthew 28:18; Matthew 18:11-13

CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
A crown for those who love his appearing and will be given in that day to the Lord as a bride to a groom. We will see God in all his glory and his righteousness which is our strength when Jesus returns in the clouds to catch us up to meet him in the air and to be with the Lord forever. Gods’ righteousness is perfect in all his judgment on his people. With Gods righteousness we are perfected as we go through the refiner’s fire to be made pure and holy before his throne of grace. It doesn’t matter how we ourselves try to be righteous we can never be so on our own ability because our own righteousness is as a filthy rag before the Lord because we are all sinners, but those who have been Spiritually reborn or renewed of Gods Spirit to them they have been made righteous before the Father.
2 Timothy 4:8; Isaiah 45:24; Isaiah 61:10

CROWN INCORRUPTIBLE
An incorruptible crown is a victor’s crown to those who have died to self and are subject to the guidance of the Holy Spirit leading them in all their ways and teach with the knowledge that only comes by the Holy Spirit who will teach us all things and bring those things back to our remembrance. None of us are perfect in our own ways, but are perfected by the Holy Spirit working in us and through us.
1 Corinthians 9:25-27; 1 John 2:28,29; Rev 4:10, 11
Thanks for the crown thoughts.
Philippians 2:5 KJV
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

The shield of faith can only be held by a crucified hand. We crucify our bad self.

The crowns fit us only if we have a servants mind and realize our position. Our mind (right under the thorn punctured scalp) is what we use to understand crowns.

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I think if someone wants to hear the words of their master after life they should not twist and mislead the scriptures account of Jesus sacrifice and the gospel truth during their lifetime.
 
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I prefer scriptural replies rather than "thoughtful" ones.
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.
Well, everything I proposed is derived from scripture. I prefer civil replies rather than dismissive ones. I'd appreciate it if you'd stop replying to me if you're unable to display the former . Thanks in advance for understanding.
 
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Bill, the context of this thread is the Judgement seat of Christ.


The passage of scripture I presented is about the Judgement seat of Christ.


I agree that the "unsaved" sinners are not in this Judgement.

Here the Lord Jesus Himself, teaches His disciples privately about the Day when He will return, and Judge His people.

This truth is unmistakable and undeniable:

31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:31-34


Jesus also goes on to teach us that some that are gathered before His throne at this Judgement, will not inherit the kingdom of God, but frighteningly enough, they will be sentenced to the everlasting fires of hell.

“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41


Pretty much everyone in this thread, has stated that the Judgement seat of Christ, is not for the world, but for His people.

I agree.


What I can't agree with, Bill, is that this Judgement has nothing to do with salvation.

I am presenting the scripture, that depicts this Day, and the truth it teaches.

I, for one, choose to embrace this truth, and allow it to change the way I think and believe and speak, and act, so that I will align my life, with His: with someone who will be welcome into God's kingdom on that Day, when we will all be together before His throne to be judged according to our deeds.

I want to hear these words from my Master:

‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ Matthew 25:34-36


JLB
Okay but then there is the intelligent method of reading and using scripture, Hermeneutics, and then there is the New Covenant, Satanic, Method of Raping the scriptures to prove personally held View Points.

There are several points of Context. The first is Local Context and that would include all of the implied content from the Paragraph, which often changes the meaning of a Stand Alone Sentence or portion of a sentence. Then there is the Context of the Chapter, of the Book and finally the Context of the Entire Bible.

The rule I aspire to live by comes from the use of Hermeneutics; No scripture, passage of scriptures nor any collection of scriptures can ever be fully understood without the Light of All Scripture shinning upon it/them!

I can prove anything, any point of view by rapping the scriptures and placing them in different orders. That is neither pleasing nor honoring of God! That creates Another Gospel,straight out of the Bible, it is heresy.
 
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Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:34


Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41



Here we have God's people who are gathered before His throne on the Day of Judgement.

  • Some inherit the kingdom of God.
  • Some are sentenced to hell.

The world of unbelievers are not in this Judgement, remember, that you stated that it was a separate Judgment for them.

Here is your quote from post number 46 -



and again from post number 62




Here at the Judgement seat of Christ, we see that there are both those who are welcomed into the kingdom of God, and those who are sentenced to hell.



JLB
John 3:36 (ESV)36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

Notice, has, the present tense verb there highlighted and underlined.
Christians do not fear the judgment seat of Christ because our judgment isn't for our eternal salvation's status. That is reserved for those that denied Christ, the false teachers, those who died in their sins. The Christian who has eternal life due to Christ and his sacrifice to assure that for all time, appears before God and see's their earthly representation as ambassador sort of speak, of the identity of Christ like, as they exampled in their living in this world redeemed of all sins and trespasses. Washed clean by the blood of Christ forever. Born renewed, their old sinner self washed away and the new having arrived reborn in the image and likeness of Christ's atoning blood.

That's what the Bible says. One verse is enough to lead a seeker to seek further. God is not a man that he should lie. Sadly, there are many a false teacher on TV and in the world, on sidewalks even as I've found them to be in my travels, who hope to tell people that eternal life is not eternal but transitory. That one slip up and we're back on the hell path. Those poor souls that utter that are what the scriptures identified even as those who at one time walked with the master. And then walked away. Of them it was said by his actual disciples, they left because they were not one with us. And so it was. And remains today.
Those that would speak against eternity and salvation for those in Christ are those that have either walked away, or never laid eyes on the path of salvation at all. Likely because they are not called by God unto the truth. And that is why they commit their living what is a short mortal frame of time to uttering slander against the one that brought eternity to the soul that lives underneath the flesh of the sinner who realizing their fallen state, does seek the face of God. And finds it.
That must be terribly vexing to false teachers when they lose one.
God knew me before I was formed in my mothers womb. And he called me when I was in my 20's. I hearkened unto that voice as one hungry for a meal I'd never had but could taste in even my dreams. And when I found it in a Bible I opened in a bookstore, I was hungry for more.
I dropped to my knees in my living room having read through the new promise my Lord had died to deliver to me, to the world, but in that moment to me, and I repented of all that I had been. And all that I had done.
And I was washed clean of that former "I am ....sinner." and by my Christ's shed blood I cried like a baby and murmured curled up on my floor in thanks giving, I am redeemed for all eternity in his love and by my Father's grace. AMEN!

That's scripture. That's what the Lord died to deliver. And no conjuring nor twisting nor attempt to erase the sacrifice in the past shall ever in all eternity change the facts God set down for the people of this world whom are still to be called by his grace to his eternally loved son.

God knows those who try.
And it is for them an eternal pity.
 
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Okay but then there is the intelligent method of reading and using scripture, Hermeneutics, and then there is the New Covenant, Satanic, Method of Raping the scriptures to prove personally held View Points.

There are several points of Context. The first is Local Context and that would include all of the implied content from the Paragraph, which often changes the meaning of a Stand Alone Sentence or portion of a sentence. Then there is the Context of the Chapter, of the Book and finally the Context of the Entire Bible.

The rule I aspire to live by comes from the use of Hermeneutics; No scripture, passage of scriptures nor any collection of scriptures can ever be fully understood without the Light of All Scripture shinning upon it/them!

I can prove anything, any point of view by rapping the scriptures and placing them in different orders. That is neither pleasing nor honoring of God! That creates Another Gospel,straight out of the Bible, it is heresy.
AMEN! 2 John 1:10 - If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:
 
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Well, everything I proposed is derived from scripture. I prefer civil replies rather than dismissive ones. I'd appreciate it if you'd stop replying to me if you're unable to display the former . Thanks in advance for understanding.
I think you misunderstood me. The words "what if" do indicate speculation.
It is very easy to be misunderstood when communicating in this format.
I had no intention to offend.
Sorry 'bout that.

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John 3:36 (ESV)36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

Notice, has, the present tense verb there highlighted and underlined.
Christians do not fear the judgment seat of Christ because our judgment isn't for our eternal salvation's status. That is reserved for those that denied Christ, the false teachers, those who died in their sins. The Christian who has eternal life due to Christ and his sacrifice to assure that for all time, appears before God and see's their earthly representation as ambassador sort of speak, of the identity of Christ like, as they exampled in their living in this world redeemed of all sins and trespasses. Washed clean by the blood of Christ forever. Born renewed, their old sinner self washed away and the new having arrived reborn in the image and likeness of Christ's atoning blood.

That's what the Bible says. One verse is enough to lead a seeker to seek further. God is not a man that he should lie. Sadly, there are many a false teacher on TV and in the world, on sidewalks even as I've found them to be in my travels, who hope to tell people that eternal life is not eternal but transitory. That one slip up and we're back on the hell path. Those poor souls that utter that are what the scriptures identified even as those who at one time walked with the master. And then walked away. Of them it was said by his actual disciples, they left because they were not one with us. And so it was. And remains today.
Those that would speak against eternity and salvation for those in Christ are those that have either walked away, or never laid eyes on the path of salvation at all. Likely because they are not called by God unto the truth. And that is why they commit their living what is a short mortal frame of time to uttering slander against the one that brought eternity to the soul that lives underneath the flesh of the sinner who realizing their fallen state, does seek the face of God. And finds it.
That must be terribly vexing to false teachers when they lose one.
God knew me before I was formed in my mothers womb. And he called me when I was in my 20's. I hearkened unto that voice as one hungry for a meal I'd never had but could taste in even my dreams. And when I found it in a Bible I opened in a bookstore, I was hungry for more.
I dropped to my knees in my living room having read through the new promise my Lord had died to deliver to me, to the world, but in that moment to me, and I repented of all that I had been. And all that I had done.
And I was washed clean of that former "I am ....sinner." and by my Christ's shed blood I cried like a baby and murmured curled up on my floor in thanks giving, I am redeemed for all eternity in his love and by my Father's grace. AMEN!

That's scripture. That's what the Lord died to deliver. And no conjuring nor twisting nor attempt to erase the sacrifice in the past shall ever in all eternity change the facts God set down for the people of this world whom are still to be called by his grace to his eternally loved son.

God knows those who try.
And it is for them an eternal pity.
Are you now saying that these are unbelievers, at the Judgement seat of Christ, along with those who receive eternal life?


Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:34


Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41


We see that, of those who are gathered before Him, on the Day of Judgement, some inherit the kingdom of God, and some inherit the everlasting fires of hell.



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One verse is enough to lead a seeker to seek further.
Great.

Please explain why there are some at the Judgement seat of Christ who inherit the kingdom of God, and some who inherit the fires of hell.

Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:34


Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41

Here it is again, from Jesus -

28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. John 5:28-29

all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth:

  • those who have done good, to the resurrection of life
  • those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation



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Okay but then there is the intelligent method of reading and using scripture, Hermeneutics, and then there is the New Covenant, Satanic, Method of Raping the scriptures to prove personally held View Points.

Okay.

Let's test your theory.

  • Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:34

  • Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41


We see that, of those who are gathered before Him, on the Day of Judgement, some inherit the kingdom of God, and some inherit the everlasting fires of hell.

  • True or False



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Are you now saying that these are unbelievers, at the Judgement seat of Christ, along with those who receive eternal life?

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I've said quite enough. When the scriptures themselves are called into question, it appears that the questioner doesn't know the difference between the destiny of the sinner and that of the redeemed eternally saved in Christ.
The Bible doesn't suffice. Excerpted scripture proof is denied, questioned, or twisted. It is not therefore evident that you are interested in the truth of God in Christ according to God's own words.
Beware denying why Christ died. And that destiny he assured his own.
I will no longer indulge the path you are on. I shall pray God knows your name instead.
 
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We see that, of those who are gathered before Him, on the Day of Judgement, some inherit the kingdom of God, and some inherit the everlasting fires of hell.
And that covers everybody at one judgment.