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Feedback Karma System

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Dear CFnet Staff,

As a member of a German forum that is using the Xenforo systems, I have noticed a feature which may be beneficial to this website.
The website I am referring to uses a Karma system which allows its members to:

  • Like
  • Agree
  • Informative
  • Friendly
  • Funny
  • Optimistic
  • Disagree
  • More...
I think the implementation here would be an appealing aspect which may provide better feedback for posts.
The following website is where this system is in use.

http://blutschwerter.de/

I look forward to your response regarding this modified 'like' system.

Sincerely,

Markus
 
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I have seen the same and it advantage is that people get a better idea of what is thought of the post.....it is nice. If it costs more to use it maybe people here would be willing to chip in and help cover the cost.....I know I would....
 

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If this is an option my vote woud be to put it in all forums .... . . .. Never mind my thoughts from a few years ago..
 
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I'd like to add my thoughts. While on a different forum, I could totally see a karma system as described above being a 'fun' or even useful thing. But on a Christian forum, where unity is, I would think, desired above all else? A karma system where the "majority" gives thumbs up or downs?

If we think that controversial subjects can be divisive, throw another form of being able to "disagree" with someone - on an impersonal basis - and see how unifying it is. Karma systems allow a person to give a comment without any input. I think the current one, the "Like" one, is good only because it actually supports the Faith by encouraging. The same would not be so with the above proposed system.

I am not going to try to get all "spiritual" up in here, but Jesus never went around "disliking" someones statement or comment without giving an explanation of why He disagreed.

More effort would be better placed into moderation than a karma system. I do not pretend its easy to moderate. You all allowed me to do it at one time. I do not think its easy.

In the end, I think that the proposed karma system would actually be detrimental to this forum. It will drive people away. To what extent I cannot say, but I do not think its a wise approach.
 
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I have to say that I don't agree with this system.

When I first came on board here, I had requested something like this.

Back then one of the moderators told me it wasn't a good idea because it would cut down on the respones and the reasoning of the responder.

After considering this, I agreed.
If someone disagrees with me, or agrees with me, I'd like to know WHY.

Otherwise, we might have threads with a bunch of likes and dislikes and no reasoning as to why.

I would like to see a "like" button on Theology, but it's not that important to me.

Has this been considered??
I mean about the no responses and pushing buttons instead...
 
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I think the appropriate course of action here is for the staff to open a poll so members are able to cast their votes. This may provide a clearer thought process of the members.
 

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Dear CFnet Staff,

As a member of a German forum that is using the Xenforo systems, I have noticed a feature which may be beneficial to this website.
The website I am referring to uses a Karma system which allows its members to:

  • Like
  • Agree
  • Informative
  • Friendly
  • Funny
  • Optimistic
  • Disagree
  • More...
I think the implementation here would be an appealing aspect which may provide better feedback for posts.
The following website is where this system is in use.

http://blutschwerter.de/

I look forward to your response regarding this modified 'like' system.

Sincerely,

Markus
I couldn't read anything on that site! :hysterical
 

Mike

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I argued against the simple "likes" system vehemently, years ago. For anyone who appreciates this system, you should be happy that my opinions hold no value, and my suggestions are shot down every time. If I had suggest the likes system, you wouldn't have it today. :cool2 [like]

My concern was the separating this would cause when someone has an opinion that isn't share by the majority, and the way such a system would isolate them further on a board that is intended to edify. Low and behold, it's 2017, we've had the likes system for a few years, and I've come to embrace them. I can admit I now feel I was wrong to object the way I did.

For one thing, I notice when my post is liked, but I can't remember the last time I ever noticed how many likes someone else's posts have. Maybe I never have. So my concern of ostracizing some members with the system appears to be invalid.

Also, people who go against the grain of commonly held Christian positions are crusty crackers. They know what they're doing with their sniper rifles on a Christian discussion board. A liberal knows they'll be in the minority here, and some of them revel in it. The more they are positioned as fringe, the more they war on.

Some people like everything. Don't you hate people like that? :lol But my point is, sometimes I feel like some people just click like all the time, so I come to think nothing of them liking posts, because it's just something they do. Perhaps this system would force a bit more thought, and it would be more telling.

Sorry Markus. I hate to do this to you, but I think I'm gonna have to support your idea. :wink
 
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I argued against the simple "likes" system vehemently, years ago. For anyone who appreciates this system, you should be happy that my opinions hold no value, and my suggestions are shot down every time. If I had suggest the likes system, you wouldn't have it today. :cool2 [like]

My concern was the separating this would cause when someone has an opinion that isn't share by the majority, and the way such a system would isolate them further on a board that is intended to edify. Low and behold, it's 2017, we've had the likes system for a few years, and I've come to embrace them. I can admit I now feel I was wrong to object the way I did.

For one thing, I notice when my post is liked, but I can't remember the last time I ever noticed how many likes someone else's posts have. Maybe I never have. So my concern of ostracizing some members with the system appears to be invalid.

Also, people who go against the grain of commonly held Christian positions are crusty crackers. They know what they're doing with their sniper rifles on a Christian discussion board. A liberal knows they'll be in the minority here, and some of them revel in it. The more they are positioned as fringe, the more they war on.

Some people like everything. Don't you hate people like that? :lol But my point is, sometimes I feel like some people just click like all the time, so I come to think nothing of them liking posts, because it's just something they do. Perhaps this system would force a bit more thought, and it would be more telling.

Sorry Markus. I hate to do this to you, but I think I'm gonna have to support your idea. :wink
Thank you Mike; I am sure I can find it in my heart to forgive you. :hysterical
I like your prospective and I agree that this modified system would make members consider the feedback function they give.
This system also shows what ratings in total a member has given which may also prove to be useful.
We could beta test it and see if it works well, if it doesn't blame the Administrators. :chin
 

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I'm not too keen on it. This world has become obsessed with themselves and people are finding their self-worth in how many "friends" they have and how many likes they get. I don't think we should be following the way the world does things.

Even worldly people recognize this significant problem. My wife and I started watching the first episode of Black Mirror (on Netflix) and it was all about this very thing--people being treated based on their social status, and every encounter resulted in a rating. It was a fascinating show but we didn't finish it due to the language.
 
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If we disabled the dislikes, I'd be on board. But in all honestly having a poll for it sounds like a good idea. Sometimes all I can say for a post is that I agree with it, or support what was said. But it seems saying so clutters the thread unless you have more insight to say why you agree or support it. If someone says it all better then you can the like feature is my go to response. (Sorry for those why are frustrated by the like without an explaination.)