King Dan of Great the 1st
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The one verse many Christians like to avoid, deny, hide, or pretend never existed.
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Bible Study Luke 14:26
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King Dan of Great the 1st
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Who can explain it?
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Dear Brother kiwidan, what you have quoted here is not hate in the natural, but a comparison in following God. I’ll just paste an excerpt below from a study I have.
Gospel of Luke
by Gene Hawkins
http://www.gracegod.com/Study Books/Gospel of Luke.pdf
NOTE: The Grace and Glory Study books are in PDF format and can be read with the free Adobe Reader
"And there went great multitudes with Him: and He turned, and said unto them, If any man come
to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea,
and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple" (Lk 14:25-26). The rest of this chapter addresses
the subject of true discipleship. Throughout this Gospel, Jesus has given instructions to those
who would follow Him. To be a disciple means more than just accepting Christ as Savior. The
word literally means "a learner, or pupil," and all those who are saved, do not necessarily qualify.
The words advocating "hate mother and father, etc.," does not convey the real meaning, for then
He would be contradicting the entire canon of Scripture. It rather means that natural affection
would be akin to hate when compared with Divine Love. One of His statements is that a disciple
must hate his own life also. Satan referred to this characteristic of man: "And Satan answered the
Lord, and said, skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life" (Job 2:4). Satan did
not know the power of Divine Love, and many have in essence "hated" their own lives, freely
laying them down in obedience to God's will. Jesus is the great example, and His love has given
motivation to every believer to do likewise. All believers do not become spiritual "learners," even
though this same love of which He speaks, is inherent in the new life. It is much more than lip
service.
"And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after Me, cannot be My disciple" (Lk 14:27).
Dear Brother kiwidan, what you have quoted here is not hate in the natural, but a comparison in following God. I’ll just paste an excerpt below from a study I have.
Gospel of Luke
by Gene Hawkins
http://www.gracegod.com/Study Books/Gospel of Luke.pdf
NOTE: The Grace and Glory Study books are in PDF format and can be read with the free Adobe Reader
"And there went great multitudes with Him: and He turned, and said unto them, If any man come
to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea,
and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple" (Lk 14:25-26). The rest of this chapter addresses
the subject of true discipleship. Throughout this Gospel, Jesus has given instructions to those
who would follow Him. To be a disciple means more than just accepting Christ as Savior. The
word literally means "a learner, or pupil," and all those who are saved, do not necessarily qualify.
The words advocating "hate mother and father, etc.," does not convey the real meaning, for then
He would be contradicting the entire canon of Scripture. It rather means that natural affection
would be akin to hate when compared with Divine Love. One of His statements is that a disciple
must hate his own life also. Satan referred to this characteristic of man: "And Satan answered the
Lord, and said, skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life" (Job 2:4). Satan did
not know the power of Divine Love, and many have in essence "hated" their own lives, freely
laying them down in obedience to God's will. Jesus is the great example, and His love has given
motivation to every believer to do likewise. All believers do not become spiritual "learners," even
though this same love of which He speaks, is inherent in the new life. It is much more than lip
service.
"And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after Me, cannot be My disciple" (Lk 14:27).
Chopper
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The word hate, is perhaps a too strong a word in this case. It simply means to "love less". A disciple of Jesus must be committed to Jesus above all in the world except the will and wishes of the Disciple's Master Owner Jesus Christ.
If a parent wanted a Disciple of Jesus to attend things at home rather than go with Jesus, the Disciple must refuse.
King Dan of Great the 1st
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Ok so the reality of it was he would have meant it as 'love less' but he did say 'hate' he did use the strongest of words, there are only two bible versions I could find that tried to escape iljesus words and play it down, but that's corruption because if Jesus said 'hate' he said 'hate' and people shouldnt twists words just because they dont understand it, but as you have said the meaning behind it was probably just a very strong message that to be his diciple everything else comes second.
Obviously Jesus was all about loving others as he has loved us, and forgiving as he forgives, and pray for your enemy and all that, so he can't be a hypocrite.
Chopper
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You are right my friend. The word hate is a very strong word. Lets look at what "Strong's" says about this word....
miseō
mis-eh'-o
From a primary word μῖσος misos (hatred); to detest (especially to persecute); by extension to love less: - hate (-ful).
Total KJV occurrences: 42