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Testimonies of Young People and Christian Rock
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"I was following the Lord wholeheartedly until we switched churches and I was invited to the new youth group. I had a conviction against rock music, but as I was surrounded by it, my beliefs were corrupted. This music eventually led to rebellion and moral failures. The Lord has gained victory in my life now, but the music still brings on rebellion if I listen to it. Please get rid of this music and play melodious, harmonious music!"

A Fifteen-Year-Old Student From Pennsylvania
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"'Christian rock' had made me a shallow, rebellious young Christian. It made it easy for me to get into regular rock music. When I finally submitted to God and got the rock music out of my life, I was able to see the double standard that is lived out by 'Christian rock' musicians.

" 'Christian rock' does not praise God and it is worse than regular rock because I think it is hypocritical. Rock is wrong and addictive and has contributed to my moral failure. I praise God for His help in releasing me from it."

An Eighteen-Year-Old Student From Indiana
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"About four years ago, a local Christian radio station began broadcasting 'rock' of the 'Christian variety.' At first, I accepted only the light stuff. Within months, I found myself listening to heavier and heavier stuff. I thank God that my parents and I came to an agreement on the music I will listen to. I can see how it has affected the lives of some who at one time were my closest friends. I still enjoy easy classical music, but they are into heavy worldly rock and the lifestyle that goes with it. Just a few weeks ago, God convicted me of what I once considered super-soft, contemporary music. I threw the tape away and thank God for the conviction that brought me to do it."

A Twenty-Year-Old Student From Kansas
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"I began to listen to 'Christian rock' without the blessing of my father. He told me that if I listened to 'Christian rock' it would open the door for Satan. I just laughed, and listened anyway. It totally deadened my Christian growth and led to terrible immorality, rebellion, and rejection of God. It then developed into secular, hard rock. Now all I can do is go back and pick up the pieces. But I still have a scar in my life that will never be removed."

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Oklahoma
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When I got into 'Christian' and secular rock, I went out from under my father's protection. I lost sleep, was rebellious, had a rotten attitude, and made life miserable for my parents. I also had major impure thoughts. I no longer listen to that music, and life is so much more enjoyable and I have much more spiritual victory. Whenever I hear this music, I get uptight and am tempted to get back into it.

Thank God I am not in it anymore."

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student From Texas
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"'Christian rock' has hindered my life because the only difference between 'Christian rock' and secular rock is the words. The beat, rhythm, and the melody are not different; they are the same.

"It does not matter whether I listen to secular or 'Christian rock,' when the songs are over, I feel the same. I feel an emptiness in my soul, a heavy burden. Even 'Christian rock' sometimes makes me feel like going out and getting rowdy or even hurting someone else if they provoke me, and that is against all of God's teachings, and everything God stands for. So get rid of all rock!!!"

A Twenty-One-Year-Old Student From Michigan
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"When I was twelve or thirteen years old, I was given some 'Christian rock' tapes by my parents to listen to because they thought I was getting into secular music. The truth is, I was getting into some bad music. The 'Christian rock' dominated my life for over a year until I could not get the same satisfaction I received the first time I heard it. I went to secular rock music and kept this desire and sin from my parents. I started out on soft music and grew to pop/rock-type music.

"It was not long until my desire grew to 'hard rock' and 'progressive' stuff. I started getting into drinking and going to dance clubs. Minor recreational drugs came in and soon my life was going down the drain.

"One night while drinking, I fell into immorality and my life was devastated. God used this tragedy to turn me around and bring me back to Him. I feel very deeply that if I had not started out in 'Christian rock' I would have been convicted about the bad music I got into. Maybe I would not have messed my life up so much."

An Eighteen-Year-Old Student From Oklahoma
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"'Christian rock' was brought into my life earlier than my peers because of a weakness in my forefathers. I continually desired music that had a strong and fast beat. The music I started with was soft, slow, and contemporary, and it took over my life and I became dependent upon it rather than upon God. I did not realize it, but I was a lukewarm Christian, no matter how many times I sought God at the altar. Eventually, my parents saw the folly of Christian contemporary music and took it out of our home. After it was gone, the music took less precedence in my life, and God gave me the conviction to not listen to evil Christian contemporary music. He made me free in my soul!"

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Illinois
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"When I was twelve I began listening to 'Christian rock.' My friends listened to it and I felt pressured to listen to it, too. I became addicted to the beat and slowly progressed until I was into 'heavy metal Christian.' I was talking to a boy in our church about rock music. He told me I listened to the same thing in 'Christian rock.' I decided to listen and find out for myself. The beat was exactly the same, and I quickly was addicted to rock. I have been working on conquering this, but when I hear any 'Christian rock' I immediately feel guilty and stay away from my parents."

A Fifteen-Year-Old Student From Florida
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"'Christian rock' at one time really messed up my view of Christianity. I would listen to it and think, 'Look how Christianity is trying to blend in with the world.' . . . I have totally avoided this music and have considered it ungodly and unscriptural!"

A Nineteen-Year-Old Student From Ohio
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"When I was thirteen, I had a friend who was in his twenties. He began helping my father, who was in charge of our youth group. The music he listened to was wrong, and as I became closer to this guy, I began to listen to his music and began to get deeper into it. Finally, it was to the point that it no longer satisfied the flesh and I wanted more. So I then started to listen to regular, secular rock music, and it caused moral failure in my life.

"I would warn anyone who would experiment with 'Christian rock' not to do so, or it is likely that the same result would happen to them. Thank you!"

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Michigan
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"'Christian rock' was a big part of my life about six months ago. It totally consumed me. I lived in the bondage of this music and the bondage of the music of my friends' preference, which was not very good either, to say the least. I realized that this ungodly music did not glorify God and never will.

"The main things I learned this week are that we as Christians do not take drugs to witness to drug users, and we do not convert to worldly habits to identify with the world. So I saw no reason to use worldly music with Christian words so that I could minister to the world!"

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student From California
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When I used to listen to rock music it hindered my spirit and caused a rebellious attitude. I can tell you that when I hear 'Christian rock' music, it makes no difference what the lyrics are. It is the music that causes the poor spirit and rebellious attitude.

A Twenty-Year-Old Student From Oklahoma
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"I never listened to the so-called 'Christian rock,' but I did listen to Christian contemporary music. I realized that all day long, when I was dressing or getting ready for bed, the songs were in my head. The backbeat and the music that was full of soft, then real loud notes made my whole body move faster. When all this was going on, I could never concentrate on studies, much less the Bible. It was distracting, and I also realized that when I would go into a store that had rock playing, I liked it, and it was a lot like the tapes I had been listening to."

An Eighteen-Year-Old Student From Florida
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"For many years I listened to 'Christian rock' and excused it because I was not listening to secular rock. I loved going to concerts and enjoying myself. Then I went to one 'Christian rock' concert, and one of the lead singers was dressed in a tank top and tight jeans. I was not sure what to do. I knew it was wrong, but I stayed anyway. When I got home my mom saw one of the pamphlets. She was shocked and said, "No more 'Christian rock'!" I was forced to obey, but later chose to obey, seeing how wrong the music was."

A Fifteen-Year-Old Student From Texas
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"I became influenced in 'Christian rock' from some bad friends I had made. Every free minute I had was spent listening to this music. I felt really proud that everybody else was listening to regular rock and I was listening also, but mine had Christian lyrics. One day as I was listening to this music I switched the station to FM and I was shocked to hear the same song on a secular station! I have done some searching in my life and realized that this music was controlling my thoughts, and that because of it, I could not conquer the giant of lust. This week I realized that I would have to give up 'contemporary-Christian music' if I was going to have victory over the giant of lust!"

A Fifteen-Year-Old Student From Missouri
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"When I got started listening to contemporary Christian music, I started out on 'mild' music, but it grew to harder music. It grew to the point where the music took the place of Bible reading. . . .it was addictive, and I held some back. Later, it was brought to my attention that when you cannot get rid of something in your life that keeps you from God, it is an idol. This music, which is supposed to promote Christianity, caused me to violate God's commandments about idolatry.

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student From Missouri
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"I grew up in a good Christian home where my father was a pastor. I have a fourteen-year-old sister, and when she was in the third or fourth grade I remember her listening to the radio when my parents were away at the church. As I grew older I was constantly being convicted about my habits but could not get victory over them.

"As I grew older, I slowly grew from one type of music to another and finally to 'progressive' and 'new wave.' I despised myself secretly because of my music, but I took it out on my fellow Christians who listened to 'Christian rock,' because I could still get a 'high' from their music and it was supposed to be 'Christian.' Even now as I am finished with this unglorious music, I still have trouble with it when I hear it anywhere."

An Eighteen-Year-Old Student From Florida
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"When I began listening to 'Christian rock' my personal devotions were almost nonexistent. 'Christian rock' deafened my Christian 'immune system' (conscience) to rock music. When I listened to this music, I would fall away from and rebel against my parents.

"'Christian rock,' in my opinion, distorts hymns. I can remember a 'Christian rock' beat to most of the hymns I have sung. I strongly encourage not getting into this music."

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student From Missouri
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"'Christian rock' and Christian contemporary music have, in my life, been stepping stones. Not stepping stones going up  but down. Just a few months of listening to 'Christian rock' and contemporary music led to a life of being controlled by acid rock. This quickly led to and encouraged rebellion, greed, moral impurity, and trying to protect my rights and hide from my parents.

"Now, however, I have become accountable to my father in this, and I am experiencing glorious victory over this satanic music. As I quit, however, I was tempted to get back into 'Christian rock,' because, after all, 'Christian rock' is better than heavy metal, I thought. The Lord in His grace, though, reminded me of the effects this music had on my life before, and I was able to overcome it. I thank God that He is leading me to victory."

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student From Pennsylvania
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"When I started listening to 'Christian rock' I slowly started to listen to just regular worldly rock (soft rock). Then I was listening to something harder and harder. It not only led me into worldly rock, but I was getting rebellious toward my parents, and I was having sensual and lustful thoughts. I also could not memorize or read God's Word and understand it or retain it.

A Fifteen-Year-Old Student From Nebraska
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"'Christian rock' has damaged my life in two ways. First, it ruined my Christian witness. The addictive beat and tempo were very hard for me to conquer. When I went to a friend's house, instead of being two friends together talking we would sit in his room and do nothing except allow the music to flow through us. Second, the beat and words are still a part of my life. Many times as I was listening to 'Christian rock,' my mind would go to the words of secular rock. Even now, after destroying all this wrong music and committing myself to God's music, I still have a rebellious attitude well up inside me. This will be a very hard habit to break."

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Michigan
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"When I started listening to music I listened to 'Christian rock.' What got me into this was my friend who accidentally left a tape behind. I picked it up and listened to it. I was immediately hooked and listened to it constantly. About two weeks later I started listening to 'rock and roll.' I knew I shouldn't have listened, but I was hooked. I became rebellious toward authority and stole a Walkman" from my dad. I then became a stumbling block to other Christians and made them fall into the same sin. I knew I had to give up this music, so I purposed to. I told my dad and asked him to hold me accountable. Since that time I have been freed from this wicked sin and I feel great now."

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student From Florida
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"I listened to rock music for about four years and it was not 'Christian rock' because I always thought it was so hypocritical to listen to Christian rock. At least I was honest about it and I did not pretend to be somebody I wasn't.

"So, after the first couple of times I was already addicted to it. The reason I started is because everybody always thought I was, 'goody-goody.' They would say, 'Hey, did you hear that song?' or 'Have you ever heard this group?' I would say, 'No, I don't listen to rock.' "I began by listening to 'soft rock' and progressed to heavy metal. It really had a strong effect on my life. Now my church plays 'Christian rock' and I see it ruining many kids in our youth group. It is so sad. It has ruined kids that were so sweet."

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Texas
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"I am very intimate with music. I was brought up in a strict Christian home, but I rebelled and moved away from home. While in the world I got ,into dance and choreography. All was very sensuous!

"The music we used was rock music, of course! After a while my body was so in tune with the music that it controlled me. After I gave my life back to God I was discouraged one particular day, so I turned on the local Christian radio station for some encouraging music. "Well, I don't remember one word except ,exalt.' All I know is that my sensuous feelings all came back with the beat and the spirit of the music. I can now say there is no such thing as 'Christian rock,' and this type of music should not be in one's house, much less in God's holy house of worship!"

A Nineteen-Year-Old Student From Texas
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"I can honestly say that secular music does have a negative aspect to it. I had never really listened to or heard a pop rock song until I was about fourteen years of age. I was going through a really hard time in my life. We were moving again, on top of everything else.

"So I gave in and started listening to it every once in awhile. Immediately I noticed a change in my spiritual life. The music stunted my spiritual growth and my heart was becoming hardened. I realized that I must get away from it."

"As soon as that music leaves, you can feel an immediate change in attitudes and actions. You see, I believe God designed the world to conform to Christianity, not Christianity to the world. Please, please, don't pollute your minds or your spiritual life with this awful music. The same applies to 'Christian rock' music.

An Eighteen-Year-Old Student From Indiana
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"I began with a high standard of music in my life. Through my youth group, that became watered down. I gradually began to build a collection of contemporary artists who professed to be Christians. As I collected more tapes and the music's beat became stronger, I became more rebellious. I believe that the so-called 'Christian music' led me into rebellion. During the Seminar, I was convicted of having wrong music influence my life. When I got home, I threw away all of my bad music tapes, which made up virtually my whole collection. I am relearning now how to have only Godly music in my home and not compromise in that area any longer."

A Nineteen-Year-Old Student From Texas
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'Christian rock' music has divided my youth group. It has kept me in bondage spiritually, and my relationship with my sister has been deeply hurt. I see the rebellion in both of us after we are exposed to rock. Whenever I walk into my youth group, rock is being played. I feel Satan's control start to tighten. One of my closest friends has remarked about the difference in my countenance after I have listened to this music. I find it almost impossible to have beneficial, reverent quiet times when the sensual beat pops into my mind."

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student From Georgia
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"I have been struggling with a moral failure. After a time of defeat, I noticed that these devastating failures were coming after or during listening to 'soft rock' or 'Christian rock' music.

I now realize that I had seared my conscience in the area of music. The destructive rhythms bring a sensual awakening inside of me and this leads to alessening of inhibitions. Since asking for God's forgiveness and healing, becoming accountable to my parents, and removing these evil influences, I have experienced amazing victory and freedom!

"However, I still feel the danger in 'Christian rock' and its pull on my spirit. I wish every person would take this matter seriously because so much damage has been done to me. Consequences and scars remain that would have never happened if only I had been more alert to the dangers."

A Twenty-Year-Old Student From Texas
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"I personally don't like 'Christian rock,' but at the cafe where I work as a waitress, they have been playing it. Since I have been working there I have had no desire to pray or read the Bible or to even get to know the Lord. I believe that since I have been listening to 'Christian rock' it has subconsciously affected my spiritual growth.

"I have been on vacation for a week now and I have found that I desire to read my Bible and to pray since I have been away from 'Christian rock. ' "

A Twenty-Three-Year-Old Student From Wisconsin
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"I have listened to rock music since I was a baby. It has had a definite bad impression on me. It makes me feel rebellious and I just have weird feelings when I play it. To me, 'Christian rock' is no different than regular rock. It still gives me those wrong feelings.

"I have gone to rock seminars and they say that rock is wrong but 'Christian rock' is OK. Well, I was sick of the way my life was going so I gave it all up and now I have such freedom!! I am so glad to be free!

"I would encourage anyone to purpose in their heart not to listen to it. Listen only to things that edify."

A Twenty-One-Year-Old Student From Washington
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"A couple of years ago while I was listening to rock music behind my parents' backs I became very suicidal. I could not figure out why, but I really reacted to the idea that my music might have something to do with it. It was only after confessing what I was doing to God and to my parents and thencutting off all rock music that I lost the desire to kill myself.

"God was very gracious to me and He saved me from that awful destructive music. I thank Him daily for that deliverance."

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Kansas
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"I would like to share a little testimony concerning my experience with 'Christian rock' music. I had listened to this music with my friends and at church social functions for several years before I got my own tape, recorded by a famous artist.

"Buying that tape was the biggest mistake of my life. Under its influence, my moral convictions began to dissolve and I allowed myself to become involved in a relationship with a boy from my church, against my parents' wishes.

"When we were together we listened to 'Christian' and 'soft rock' music. It was all sensuous and destroyed my inhibitions. I am so ashamed of what happened.

"The music made me rebellious and pulled me away from my family. I thank God that I can say today that I have not listened to this harmful music for several months now and I feel a freedom I had not experienced before."

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student from Texas
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"In the past, rock 'n roll music has been so detrimental to my spiritual growth that I feel privileged to share this, especially if it could keep others from being subjected to this type of music. This includes 'contemporary Christian music.' Most people do not realize what a hold this music can have on you until you try to take it out of your life.

"When I got into secular rock music I was bombarded by many sensual thoughts. Those that think that 'Christian rock' is OK because of the words are wrong. When I listen to that type of 'Christian' music, I have the same reaction. I cannot listen to any type of this music because when I do, I can no longer worship God or grow in Him."

A Fifteen-Year-Old Student From Ohio
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"I need to give you my testimony on 'Christian rock' music. I am in a church where 'Christian rock' has come to be accepted and where we now have dances for the Senior High Youth Group.

"At first, my listening was reluctant and I didn't like the metallic, hard sound, but I grew numb to it the more I listened. Even one of my friends told me it wouldn't sound so bad after I listened to it enough! That is blunt for you!

"My dad REALLY didn't like this music and even told me that I needed to get rid of it. This was very hard. You know, this contemporary music is addictive. Many people can witness to this. Try taking rock away from one who's used to it and they go through withdrawal! I certainly did!

"But when I purposed to remain under my father's authority, I threw the tapes away and you wouldn't believe the freedom I felt! It was like a heavy burden was lifted off my shoulders! I'm telling you, I never even knew I was in bondage!

"I prayed that God would resensitize my spirit to discern the spirit of music. It did take a while but I'm a witness now of how rock music desensitizes a spirit. I'm free now, PRAISE THE LORD!!"

A Seventeen-Year-Old Student From Ohio
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"'Christian rock' music has probably been the biggest hindrance to my spiritual growth. When I first heard this kind of music, it really bothered my spirit. But then this music was brought into my church. The more I heard it, the less it bothered me. The less it bothered me, the more I listened to it.

"It wasn't long before I was involved in secular rock music because I didn't see any difference. This music caused me to resist the Lord and hold parts of my life back from Him. I was not able to have a freedom to truly serve Him and be totally dedicated to Him until I was willing to give up this music."

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Florida
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"On September 2, 1989, I went to a 'Christian rock' concert. While I was there, I danced, screamed, and sang in ways that were displeasing to God. I have many contemporary Christian music tapes, and I find when I listen to them that I get a rebellilous spirit.

"I am so ashamed of the things that I did while under the influence of this music. I PLEAD with you to rid yourself of this bad influence."

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Missouri
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"When I was not following the Lord I was angry because of the compromise Christians were making in the matter of 'Christian rock' music.

"Personally, I cannot tell the difference between 'rock' and 'Christian rock.' Since I rededicated my life to the Lord and quit listening to both types of music, I have had a wonderful freedom in my thought life."

A Fifteen-Year-Old Student From Oklahoma
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"'Christian rock' has always been a source of battle within me. I could never go anywhere without rock music haunting me. I could not be comfortable anywhere. The music brought so much tension and lack of inner peace that I ended up in total depression, which was completely removed by taking rock and contemporary music out of my life."

A Fifteen-Year-Old Student From California
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"I began listening to rock music on the bus to public school. I went to Christian friends' homes, and they would have their rock tapes and radios on constantly. I began to grow numb to the sound and the words and became comfortable listening to it.

"Finally I became interested in hearing what the singers were really saying. I was going through a really depressing and rebellious time by now, so I would fill my boredom and emotional times by secretly listening to 'rock.' I mean, everyone else did.

"My parents even gave me a dual cassette stereo system for memorizing Matthew 5-7. However, many of the tapes I ignorantly played caused sensual problems for me.

"A couple of months later when I got my life in tune with the Lord, I was convicted about my music. So one night I came home from church and took out the tapes I was recording off the radio and strung them out all over my bedroom floor and then took them out to the trash and pitched them. I was so released, I broke down and cried. Praise the Lord."

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Indiana
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"I began listening to 'Christian rock,' and shortly thereafter I began a fast, steady pace downhill. This eventually led me into a totally backslidden state.

"I know that my own rebellion was the cause Of my fall. However, 'Christian rock' entered into my life at a very crucial point and added fuel to the fire. I remember the specific day and the song I listened to first. I remember feeling rebellious  like I was going against what is considered acceptable by the standards of Godly people.

"Within weeks, maybe months, a very apparent breakdown of my conscience, morality, and appearance was evident. As I stated before, within two years I had completely fallen away from the Lord.

"Today I am serving the Lord, yet I still have a tremendously difficult time resisting the temptation of listening to the music of my past-Christian or secular. When I hear this music it causes me to reminisce fondly of my past, and I completely forget the darkness I was delivered from. This dismisses the love, forgiveness, and power of my Lord in my life.

"I appeal to Church leaders today.... I plead with you to purge your churches, youth groups, and homes of rock and roll. Without going into further detail of my own life, it is my hope that the sins of my past can be used as a testimony for the glory of the Lord Jesus Christ.

"I pray that the devastating results of rock music will be realized in the Church before it steals anymore of the souls of our youth."

A Nineteen-Year-Old Student From California
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"Our youth group has had a problem of not growing spiritually for a long time now. This problem did not come from outward influences, but inward moral decay. A big factor in this was the rock music the kids were listening to outside of the church.

"Unfortunately, I was one of those kids. I can personally testify that rock music is not what it seems to be. Once you start listening to it, you accept it, not only the music itself, but also the words. You become numb to worse and worse lyrics. and you can't break out of the addiction.

"Pretty soon, I was accepting totally opposite lyrics to what I was supposed to be standing for. I didn't realize that a big problem in my spiritual life came from my addiction to rock music. It was as if I had a big wall between me and God, and it was because I was living a hypocritical life. I was accepting the awful standards that rock music presented, but I was telling everybody else I was a Christian.

"I was lying through my teeth. The only way I can say this now is that through the grace of God, I was able to see what was happening. I have now given this area of my life to God and now I feel a freedom I never had before. God is so good!"

A Sixteen-Year-Old Student From Missouri
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That's completely ridiculous. 'christian' rock music has no way influenced me to go out and live rebellious, or influence me to listen to other bad music. In fact, it has helped me in knowing there are actually christians out there that want to praise the lord with LOUD instruments. These people that gave those 'testimonies' seemed to have weak convinctions to begin with. If there was ANYTHING that would make teenagers want to listen to secular rock and roll, it's that light contemporary that sounds like these people just dance around in fields of flowers.

First, I don't believe in "christian rock" really. There is a genre of music called rock, and rock is rock. Now, there are bands that have christian members that make rock music. It's not nescessarily praise and worship, but all music by christians does not have to be praise and worship. There are praise and worship bands, and that's what they do, is praise and worship. Then there are bands who are in the business just like any other band, but they are christians. As christians, our lives should reflect Christ and it should be apparent without every sentence having God or Jesus.

I should hate to think that the Lord of Heaven and earth would need his name mentioned in every song to let you know that a positive change is happening in a person's life..

Justin
 
amen bro some of the rock music today is like pure demon spirits. There is a demonic force. Satan sometimes appears as an angel of light.
 
If it's giving glory to God then I'll listen to it. At first, I stuck mainly to gospel, but now I'll listen to any type of Christian music as long as it supports God and what He's about. That's the main thing, I think as long as they are giving God the glory and are creating music for Him, He gets joy out of that. I don't buy it that only gospel or soft music is all that God enjoys.

David danced out of his clothes but since he was doing it for God, God was pleased if I remember correctly. As long as they are getting down for Christ, and truly doing it for Him then I don't see the problem. Back in time, Christians got down and praised God, it wasn't just worship. And there's nothing wrong with worship music either. I like both and both help give me balance. When I really want to hear something with energy, thanks to innovative artists I can. When I want hear something softer, thankfully I can do that as well. And like you said goliwog, there are fakes out there, so we have to monitor who and what we listen to. And Justin I agree with you too.
 
I will listen to most types of Christian music as long as it isn't too loud like rap.
 
I think that's a bunch of garbage. "Christian Rock" doesn't make you do anything-- music in general doesn't force you to do anything. Those comments by those people are as ignorant as saying that Marilyn Manson was the cause of the shootings at Columbine.

People need to take their actions into their own hands and not simply blame something for what they've chosen to do.

By the way, what is the definition of Christian Rock?

Cheers. :biggrin
 
I don't believe thats true. I've listened to Christian rock, and I've never felt any of those things. I get tired of people blaming other things/people for they're own actions. It almost reminds me of the Mcdonald's lawsuit, just different circumstances. Those people seem to be spiritually immature to begin with. But I don't listen to too much Christian rock anyway. I'll stick with Lifehouse and Sonic Flood.
 
I thought the McDonalds lawsuit was stupid when i first heard of it. However, when I checked it out, it turns out they had been making the water way too hot. There had been many complaints before that.

The woman had 3rd degree burns and was hospitalized for 8 days and had to have skin grafts.

But I do agree with you about Christian Rock. What you get out of it depends on mostly what you want to get out of it.

Quath
 
Quath said:
I thought the McDonalds lawsuit was stupid when i first heard of it. However, when I checked it out, it turns out they had been making the water way too hot. There had been many complaints before that.

The woman had 3rd degree burns and was hospitalized for 8 days and had to have skin grafts.

But I do agree with you about Christian Rock. What you get out of it depends on mostly what you want to get out of it.

Quath

I was talking about the guy that became obese after eating there continually. :biggrin
 
Not all christian rock is bad it depends on weather the singer is singing to God. If there singing for popularity or money its just not the same (especially if there singing to satan which i admit is rare)
 
I think it depends on what tiype of music i believe that most of the pop music we sing is church is bad, it gose into superspritualism and sensationalism.

I wrote a study on this very issue.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/amandasjourn ... otion.html

Music and Emotionalism.

The influence of music in today’s churches is becoming a cause for concern. The way music is being used to stimulate a “spiritual experienceâ€Â. How that music and emotional feelings have become synonymous with being an expression of worship.

The question to be asked is, “Are Praise and worship the same or are they
different?â€Â

We have to look at music but in its context, what it is used for and why?

Music is used as a way and means to promote the gospel, which in itself is not wrong, however it is being used as a technique to persuade people that what they are experiencing is a "true Spiritual experience".

In this day and age many Christians believe that the gospel is not effective and efficient in this present social climate so it is reasoned that Jesus must be dressed up to make him presentable and relevant to the world, that the Biblical idea of salvation from sin and eternal punishment should be de-emphasised.

That which has been tried and tested over centuries of church history is being abandoned in favour of what is felt to be a more “culturally relevant†way of communicating the Gospel. Less and less of us preach the gospel and more and more of us seek to entertain people thus consigning the example of Christ, the apostles and countless generations of what men and women of God to the garbage heap. What so many have died for in the past is now either forgotten or simply taken foe granted. Was it all for nothing?

People forget the Luthers, Calvins, Torreys and your D.L Moodys etc. as being yesterday’s material, instead let’s have this "Spirit of Friendship" the popularising of Christianity. If it weren’t for the example of people like these we would never have had the spreading of the Gospel message, nor would we have had the Bible in our own language!

The attitude of many Christians today is that "it’s un-cool to be a boring normal Christian", so instead they do as the world does. In order to get members they preach “Come and Join the Partyâ€Â! Or they say that being a Christian is also about having “Fun†and “Going Outâ€Â!

It’s not that going out is wrong, you have to look at that in its context. What do they mean by the word “Fun†and the word “Going Out†what’s the motive?

God looks at the intent of our hearts.

There is great pressure on today’s youth (especially teenagers who claim to believe in Jesus and who are being fed on a diet of milk). The world that throws allsorts of things at them such as what they see on television or read in the papers, magazines, the internet etc. Every thing is about experientialism, and the need to feel a “buzzâ€Â.

Emotions are not wrong but if we thrive on them there is a danger point.

This is what Jesus says Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with [their] lips, but their heart is far from me.

They have a tendency to think that Christian worship revolves around musical forms and the emotions that this generates. Christianity needs to have “Street Credâ€Â!.

They don’t seem to understand that true worship revolves around your conduct on a daily basis. It is about how we treat others and our own witness before the multitudes of the unbelieving world. It is not just about prayer but also the spreading of the gospel, the message of repentance from sin and turning to Christ this is what it means to worship.

We don’t need to feel God in order to act on our faith and do what Jesus commands us to do on a day-to-day basis. Worship is doing what is required of us, a daily sacrifice.

Romans 12:1 Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, {which is} your spiritual service of worship. NASB copyright 1995 Lockman Foundation

We look at praise, the thing you do to express your self to God in song and dance. People often get that mixed up with worship because a person has a heightened sense of spiritual experience doesn’t make it worship. This becomes an emotional experience not necessarily a spiritual one.

The scriptures say to test the sprits to see if they are of God.

Now we look at the concept of emotionalism.

Emotion is a very powerful motivational tool.

Emotion can cause us to change.

Emotion can make us from being tired to motivated.

Emotion can make us depressive and takes the form of causing us to have the feeling of hopelessness.

The Bible talks very much about our emotions and how they affect our
conduct to God:

2 Corinthians 7:8-11. Godly Sorrow moves us towards repentance with
motivates us to do what God wills

It would be wrong to say (or think) that the Christian faith was ever intended to enrich our emotions. Emotions can be a powerful thing and there are dangers with us trusting in our emotions. They can often lead us astray. In the bible the emotion of anger is not sinful, but to act upon anger can lead us to sin. Ephesians 4:26.

The cares and pleasures of this world can hinder the truth in our hearts.
(Luke 8:13,14).

It would seem that not only are our own emotions are dangerous ground when it comes to our own personal lives and conduct, but, when we are dealing with matters of our faith there are some things that we need to be aware of: our emotions and our conduct must be brought under obedience to God.

Our Personal Faith.

Emotions can cause us to avoid learning the matters of our faith. (Galatians 4:16; Isaiah 30:9-13).

Emotions can deceive us in believing that we are acceptable to God when
we are not. (Jeremiah 6:13-15; 10:23).

Emotions in False Teaching.

False teachers will entice people by appealing to the emotions. Feeling
good or bad for example. (I Corinthians 2:1-5).

False teachers will teach people to depend on emotions to determine
matters of faith. (II Timothy 4:3,4).

Conclusion. The Bible does not call upon us to be void of emotion, but
we must never allow our emotions to determine, or direct our faith. (Psalm
119:105-106).

By Miguel Hayworth written in 2003
 
A real christian song is a sermon set to music. it should do something for ya.
 
That's a real touchy subject.


Sixpence None The Richer is a band with christian members. They wrote a song called 'Kiss Me' and everyone was in an uproar about it
 
A real christian song is a sermon set to music. it should do something for ya.

a Good hiymology is not good theology.

You see we should eversise more on studying of the scriptures then puting music more over what is more important.
 
I hate, repeat HATE rock/pop/rap anything like that - both Christian and secular. But saying that Christian rock is evil is just hogwash. I know to many people who God broke through their thick hides by some friend goving them a Chrstian CD in a style they liked. It got them interested for the first time in a religion they thought was for old people who liked the Gaithers so they started to read the Bible and ask questions and were eventualy saved. We are beings created to worship, through our lives, through our talents, through our offerings, and through our music. Its like the passage (I dont have a Bible handy at the moment otherwise I'd look it up, I have trouble remembering references) about everyone having s differnt purpose and talent - it would do the body no good to have a million feet, you need all types and tastes to work well. Just because a foot likes hymns and can best express their praises through the old hymns dosent mean that they should look down on the hand that shouts their praise to God through rock style songs. The old hymns were new once too - heck - alot of them were tavern drinking songs set with new Christian lyrics, and their was a time when the organs held so dear in the old school camp were considered sacrelige. Its all a matter of perspective.
 
Here is my two cents worth :biggrin

Now putting the term "Christian" aside, I am going to just talk about the music and not the lyrics.

Music does have a PROFOUND impact on people, that is just a fact. It plays on emotions, it can make people excited and it can make people calm.
I listened to a tape once about the impact of Rock music on the brain, and it was done by non-christians in a secular college.

They did several tests on plants, mice and even humans.

I'll start with the plants, okay there was three catagories.
1) plants in a room with Rock music
2 plants in a room with no music at all
3) and plants in a room with classical music

The results from those rooms were as follows: (By the way, all of the plants were given the same care.
1) The plants grew very slowly, grew away from the speakers, and were very sickly.
2) The plants grew as normal, nothing special.
3) The plants flourished! They grew very fast, and were very healthy, and they grew toward the speakers.

Now for the Mice, this one was tested with a maze and again, there was three rooms.

1) The mice grew confused, kept retracting there steps and never finished the maze.
2) The mice took awhile to get through the maze but were eventually able to complete it.
3) The mice finished with surprising spead and accuracy.

The test conducted on humans was just a memorisation test, to see how much they retained, I'm sure you know the results without me telling you, just by the results of the other ones I told you about.

The conclusion....
Rock music has a loud, repetative beat that is sustained throughout the song. The brain does not function as it should with so much repitition like that and becomes confused.

Classical music, has order, structur,and a strong melodic line. It relaxes the brain.

God is a God of order, not confusion. I don't think that Rock music is pleasing to Him.

Classical music and gospel music exorts the spirit, mind, and body.
And brings glory the Father.
 
That's silly. People prefer rock music just as others prefer classical. To say one is more evil or something is weird.
 
Not true, punk music christian or not still encourages moshing, something that is dangerous. While the music itself may not be bad, the after effects may be.
 
all rock isnt from the devil

i really love rock music mainly christian rock and i have grown closer to god since i've started listening to it.
i just think that people need to get to know christ in different ways and if christian rock is how you rejoice the lord or how you prefer to sevred his word then thats great because you are getting to an entirely different group.
i love stations like steelroots and others who play christian rock.
i don't mind church hymns but there are many great christian people who just don't relate to them as well and don't like the way they sound.
you just have to choose your favorite way of rejoicing i don't think god cares if it's screamed by yourself in your room or sang in a church. as long as you're worshiping him and not the music or the artist. :lol:
 
I don't like rock music or rap or basically any music besides classical and a few soundtracks. But at youth group, the worship music is often Christian rock. I think it is GREAT for worshipping the Lord, but I never listen to that music for pleasure. I just don't think it's wholesome unless you are truly using it to worship the Lord.
 
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