Not one stone standing on another

[Anto9us]

Does the Wailing Wall COUNT?

I mean, Temple itself was torn down in 70 AD -- Wailing Wall still stands -- should it be included in "all these buildings" talked of in Matthew 24?

 

[Eugene]

Does the Wailing Wall COUNT?

I mean, Temple itself was torn down in 70 AD -- Wailing Wall still stands -- should it be included in "all these buildings" talked of in Matthew 24?

It's just my opinion, but in Matthew Chapter Twenty-four Jesus is speaking of the time during the tribulation. Yes, the temple was desolated in 70 AD, but there's coming a time when two hundred million are going to come against Jesusalem (Rev 9:16), and we really have seen nothing yet.

 

[dirtfarmer]

Does the Wailing Wall COUNT?

I mean, Temple itself was torn down in 70 AD -- Wailing Wall still stands -- should it be included in "all these buildings" talked of in Matthew 24?

hello Anto9us, dirtfarmer here

There are reports that the "Wailing Wall" was not part of the 2nd temple , but is the western wall of an early Roman fortress, Fort Antonia. If you read articles that explain why there is a growing belief that this is true, it is very convincing.

 

[JLB]

It's just my opinion, but in Matthew Chapter Twenty-four Jesus is speaking of the time during the tribulation. Yes, the temple was desolated in 70 AD, but there's coming a time when two hundred million are going to come against Jesusalem (Rev 9:16), and we really have seen nothing yet.

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

Early Roman fortress.

 

[dirtfarmer]

Early Roman fortress.

hello Kiwidan, dirtfarmer here

Mark 13:2, " And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." If Jesus is truthful, how could the "wailing wall" be part of the old temple?

 

[jasonc]

The wall wasn't part of the temple and never was believed but inside it lied the 4th ten

hello Kiwidan, dirtfarmer here

Mark 13:2, " And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." If Jesus is truthful, how could the "wailing wall" be part of the old temple?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Wall

Not nor has it been called the temple, simply believed to be part of the temple mount allowing expansion.

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

hello Kiwidan, dirtfarmer here

Mark 13:2, " And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." If Jesus is truthful, how could the "wailing wall" be part of the old temple?

I dont think its part of the temple.

 

[Anto9us]

I never thought it was part of the Temple.
I have to say I am sort of shocked, because on another board, on a thread that I started that wasn't even about Wailing Wall, or prophecy in general, someone brought this up -- that there WAS still stones standing on another...

I am 64, was saved at 19, since that time studied prophecy all along and NEVER, NEVER heard anyone claim that Jesus' prophecy of "not one stone standing on another" had NOT been fulfilled in 70 AD.

I appreciate everyone's input here.
Sure, there are times coming with a lot more destruction, but I was kinda flipped out about this Wailing Wall thing.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes, as God will destroy everything on this present earth making it all new again as it was in the beginning so will it be in the end.

Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

2Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea

 

[for_his_glory]

Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Israel (those who follow after Judaism seeking other gods) lost there right to be called Gods chosen people, but God did save a generational remnant out of the 12 tribes who have always been faithful to God in their obedience to His commandments, 1Kings 9:1-9; Rev 7. God’s judgment against them led them to be captured, 605 – 537 B.C., by Nebuchadnezzar and taken into Babylon for seventy years while Nebuchadnezzar’s army killed many Jews in Judah and Jerusalem destroying the whole city of Jerusalem including the first Temple that was built through King Solomon’s reign in Jerusalem.

The second Temple was built under Ezra’s leadership and Israel continued practicing Judaism and their Temple was desecrated as part of an effort to impose Greek-oriented culture and customs on the entire population. Roman rule refurbished the temple as Herod, Romans vassal king, rules the land of Israel. In 70 A.D. the Temple is once again destroyed. The Temple Mount was taken over in 691 A.D. as the Arab nation built the Dome of the Rock and there has not been any other Temple built since that time on the original Temple Mount.

Rev 13 the beast (revived Babylonian Empire) rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast out of the sea gives power to the beast out of the earth who is the son of perdition/false prophet, 2Thessalonians 2:3-12 who will declare a peace treaty, 1Thessalonians 5:1-5, with the arab nations and we be given the refurbished (being refurbished now) Dome of the Rock (Temple Mount) where he will sit on his throne to rule over the nations. This is the abomination that causes desolation that Daniel spoke of in Daniel Chapter 7 and that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15,16.

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

I think its Roman.

 

[Mike S]

hello Anto9us, dirtfarmer here

There are reports that the "Wailing Wall" was not part of the 2nd temple , but is the western wall of an early Roman fortress, Fort Antonia. If you read articles that explain why there is a growing belief that this is true, it is very convincing.

I think there's a good case to be made for that. It has been something I thought about a lot when visiting Jerusalem. I believe the City of David is where the Temples were located. But, this is a very controversial belief.

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

The Mother of all harlots.

" In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day—for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem!"

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings and you were not willing"


"And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth."


70ad

 

[n2thelight]

Does the Wailing Wall COUNT?

I mean, Temple itself was torn down in 70 AD -- Wailing Wall still stands -- should it be included in "all these buildings" talked of in Matthew 24?

Matthew 24:2 "And Jesus said unto them, "See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

As the disciples were standing and commenting on the magnificence of the structures, Jesus told them that at His coming, after the wrath of God's anger was upon the earth, not one stone of these beautiful structures would be left standing one stone upon another.

Jesus prophecy in verse two tells us that "there shall not one stone upon another," and that condition has not happened yet. All of the stones of the temple will be turned to dust, at that end of this earth age. Zechariah 14 gives us a profile of how Jerusalem will be, and the events that shall transpire at that time. When Satan has taken his seat in Jerusalem, fulfilling the role of the Antichrist.

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

Matthew 24:2 "And Jesus said unto them, "See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

As the disciples were standing and commenting on the magnificence of the structures, Jesus told them that at His coming, after the wrath of God's anger was upon the earth, not one stone of these beautiful structures would be left standing one stone upon another.

Jesus prophecy in verse two tells us that "there shall not one stone upon another," and that condition has not happened yet. All of the stones of the temple will be turned to dust, at that end of this earth age. Zechariah 14 gives us a profile of how Jerusalem will be, and the events that shall transpire at that time. When Satan has taken his seat in Jerusalem, fulfilling the role of the Antichrist.

I respectfuly disagree.