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I don't think we can seperate those elements to know which of our qualities come from where. But from the bible it seems there is an active war going on within us. That the flesh despises what the Holy Spirit desires, and the Spirit despises what the flesh desires. If that's right then our character is mixed up between both the flesh and the Spirit, but if we are able to draw close to God, hopefully we will have less qualities of the flesh and more of the Spirit.
 
I don't think we can seperate those elements to know which of our qualities come from where. But from the bible it seems there is an active war going on within us. That the flesh despises what the Holy Spirit desires, and the Spirit despises what the flesh desires. If that's right then our character is mixed up between both the flesh and the Spirit, but if we are able to draw close to God, hopefully we will have less qualities of the flesh and more of the Spirit.

So that would mean that, our character resides in our soul?
That's kind of what I was thinking...
 
I was thinking maybe the mind. Thats what gets programmed and brainwashed.

Naw, you're thinking about habits and knowledge. Character is something different. I would attribute character to the fruit of the spirit. You know the passage that a person is known by their fruit. (Both good and bad). So I'd attribute character in that bundle of stuff. One of the fruits we offer others.
 
Naw, you're thinking about habits and knowledge. Character is something different. I would attribute character to the fruit of the spirit. You know the passage that a person is known by their fruit. (Both good and bad). So I'd attribute character in that bundle of stuff. One of the fruits we offer others.

No I don't know.
 
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Our "Soul" is the total package of body, spirit, and mind.

Our hearts (where our logic and emotions connect to our desires/action/will) is where our character is. It's in our mind.
 
Our "Soul" is the total package of body, spirit, and mind.

Our hearts (where our logic and emotions connect to our desires/action/will) is where our character is. It's in our mind.

Uhhh, our flesh mind or our heart? (As a man thinks in his heart, so is he)
 
The soul which makes up the conscious part of ones being is that of thought, action and emotion. The spiritual nature of man regarded as immortal and separable from the body/flesh at death and susceptible to happiness or misery in a future state. Without the spirit/breath from God our soul would not be alive as spirit and soul are connected, Genesis 2:7.
 
The soul which makes up the conscious part of ones being is that of thought, action and emotion. The spiritual nature of man regarded as immortal and separable from the body/flesh at death and susceptible to happiness or misery in a future state. Without the spirit/breath from God our soul would not be alive as spirit and soul are connected, Genesis 2:7.

Spirit, soul, and flesh are connected I think. The spirit does talk to the flesh, and the flesh talks too!
I think when our spirit talks to us, it is what we call our conscience. ..
Because I've noticed that, when things come up, and my conscience speaks to me, and tells me to do the right thing...then my flesh mind freaks out and starts sowing doubt and practically demanding that I do the fleshy worldly thing.
(That also happens in times of me acting in faith, or when the Lord supernaturally helps me and I realize it.)
Oh no, it is a coincidence, it could have been this or that, and sowing doubt into my mind.

I used to believe that our conscience was the Holy Spirit urging us to do the right thing. But scripture says, the Holy Spirit bears witness (talks) to our spirit. It does not say He bears witness with our flesh. So our conscience must be our spirit talking...? Does that sound right?
 
Sounds pretty much what I understand it to be Edward. I think of my conscience being a conviction from the Holy Spirit. And yes, the flesh fights back. This is the battle.

There again it would seem our conscience may be connected to both our spirit and soul and flesh
 
Sounds pretty much what I understand it to be Edward. I think of my conscience being a conviction from the Holy Spirit. And yes, the flesh fights back. This is the battle.

There again it would seem our conscience may be connected to both our spirit and soul and flesh

It is kind of a conviction from the Holy Spirit, but the Holy Spirit talks to our spirit then our spirit talks to us...(I think)

Born into sin and condemnation, spirit soul body are connected. We're taught to live in the flesh so the flesh is dominant.

Scripture says, the word of God is sharper than a two edged sword, able to divde spirit and flesh...right?

It could be that we are to strive to make our spirit dominant over the flesh.
By living for the Spirit. Walking in the spirit. Abiding in Christ...

That makes sense. :)
 
Hey. I know. How's this?
(Loosely speaking, in humor and not teaching dogma. Please no one be offended) ...

I have not yet been created...

If soul isva product of character and heart, it is dynamic and forever changing...so I'm not done yet. I have not yet been (finished) created...lol.

We have to abide in Christ for Him to have the time to work inside of us and continue to form us into His image.

When we feed our heart and spirit worldly things and distractions spiritual growth stops and stagnation begins.
 
Hey. I know. How's this?
(Loosely speaking, in humor and not teaching dogma. Please no one be offended) ...

I have not yet been created...

If soul isva product of character and heart, it is dynamic and forever changing...so I'm not done yet. I have not yet been (finished) created...lol.

We have to abide in Christ for Him to have the time to work inside of us and continue to form us into His image.

When we feed our heart and spirit worldly things and distractions spiritual growth stops and stagnation begins.
Yet scriptures state that we are new creations in Christ.
If we are new creations, then we have already been created, yet what you have spoken are not questions of creation, but rather that which has been not yet finished.
And how can something not yet be finished if it has not yet been created, for that not created cannot exist. And if something does not exist, it has no starting point. And if there is no start, there is no finish.
Yet we are new creations in Christ, and so it is that a good work has been started and because it has been started, it will be finished. And because of this, it has been created.

Enough of my babble. What you speak of is our sanctification. I am saved, I'm being saved, and I will be saved.
 
Yet scriptures state that we are new creations in Christ.
If we are new creations, then we have already been created, yet what you have spoken are not questions of creation, but rather that which has been not yet finished.
And how can something not yet be finished if it has not yet been created, for that not created cannot exist. And if something does not exist, it has no starting point. And if there is no start, there is no finish.
Yet we are new creations in Christ, and so it is that a good work has been started and because it has been started, it will be finished. And because of this, it has been created.

Enough of my babble. What you speak of is our sanctification. I am saved, I'm being saved, and I will be saved.

Well, yeaj lol. I was sorta kidden around. I know it doesn't hold up.

I can't sleep. I'm gonna pay for this tomorrow. .
 
Where does our character reside within us? Spirit? Soul? Flesh?
As C.S. Lewis said, which I believe came from the influence of the late G.K. Chesterton, we do not have a soul, we are a soul.
Our character is not philosophical for our soul is influenced through our mind and spirit. They cannot be separated and they each tug and pull and we wrestle at times with these influences.
I believe our character is the net result of the outcome of the dance, or the wrestling which occurs above and can manifest itself positively or negatively in the mind or flesh.
 
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