OUR HOME is the united states

[spirit1st]

We go into other nations ,spending our money ,trying to get these nations right?When in TRUTh ,our home is being destoryed .Our nation has gotten very evil .Taking all rights from its people ,putting them in great bondage ,to paid for helping these others nations and dumb things like shooting at things in space.When our inner city are death zones ,people with out much hope ,Our kids being taught evil things and promoting evil thoughts on T.V. Our people no longer repect each other ,but mostly seek money .
Love means little too most .It is all for self .This is a sad time in our nation . 2 partys fighting to become the power ,caring little about TRUTh .Oh there are a few who still desire right and wrong .But most put the dollar 1st .We still kill our kids [babys ] Few want to defend or fight for the nation ?We will not speak the truth about islam or we could and should call it for what it is .occult .But for so called peace sake ?We not only allow this evil in our land ?But give them our blessings .We are so dumb and decieved by satan ,We even get them copys of the koran ,saying it is holy and MUST be repect .What evil this is .Not eough that we allow all the evil things shown on T.V. and now being taught in schools .Now we must accept this evil .You see ?Once these people enter a nation and grow big?They take over .Who will come to our aid when we are taken over ?None.What we allow in our homes ,be it our small home or our nation ,It is our fault .The koran is a very evil paper .But The great deciever is not called that because he is dumb in these things! We can see how these people have and are destorying many .Many REAL christain have been put to death all over the world .But fearing losing oil or money ,or friends .We Allow and even force others to accept this occut in the name of peacxe or love .But the TRTh is ?It destorys lifes .and gets worse as it grows and takes over .In our nation the TRUTH is pretty much gone?Replaced with money and power .Many millions are recieved in washington ,that we would accept lies .Our lands and homes can now be taken .Our fore father would turn over in there graves if they saw the way our nation is and is becoming.We as a nation have lost the battle .only great destucktion can cause this nation to repent and reject the evil with in it .
these are just my thoughts and no one need accept them . heart.gif bible.gif starofdavid.gif cross.gif dove.gif
OUR COURTS NOW MAKE LAW .They take a lie and call it TRUTh ,They take TRUTH and call it a lie . heart.gif


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Mat 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord.as you have done to the least of these , you have done to ME ,1Jo 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

 

[matt]

Not going into other nations wouldn't stop this country from the evil that is manifesting.

 

[spirit1st]

Of course not ,but we spend billions on other nation ,while our house falls apart .The point is ?We should be helping our own nation get on its feetv and return to the LORD .
Instead we tell others they are living badly .
We should get the thing out of our own eye.
But we did ,when we voted in our leaders .of course a few are trying ,[MAYBE} but most can not see ,just what bad shape we are in .
We could go way down in 24hours .one big hit and its over for us .I was thinking if they hit 3 or 4 nuke power plants ,these areas would be lost for they say 100 years . millions would die ,including our leaders .we would be done .washington and 3 other places .then some evil guy would take over and the story ends for us .AS a nation that is .
Byt we are safe ,The LORD will protect us .But the nation? gone as a people ,They then would follow anyone ,who took power .

 

[Lyric's Dad]

Of course not ,but we spend billions on other nation ,while our house falls apart .The point is ?We should be helping our own nation get on its feetv and return to the LORD .
Instead we tell others they are living badly .
We should get the thing out of our own eye.
But we did ,when we voted in our leaders .of course a few are trying ,[MAYBE} but most can not see ,just what bad shape we are in .
We could go way down in 24hours .one big hit and its over for us .I was thinking if they hit 3 or 4 nuke power plants ,these areas would be lost for they say 100 years . millions would die ,including our leaders .we would be done .washington and 3 other places .then some evil guy would take over and the story ends for us .AS a nation that is .
Byt we are safe ,The LORD will protect us .But the nation? gone as a people ,They then would follow anyone ,who took power .

I have always had a problem with the notion of "sticking to our nation." This is one world that God created and we need to be concerned with all of God's creation. I for one am a very non-patriotic person. Not that I do not love living here but my citizenship is in heaven and I cannot see ignoring the rest of the world because we are as messed up as they are.

 

[peace4all]

you said something along the lines of

"this nation is taking away the rights of its people"

and by that, do you mean banning gay marriage?

Cuz it sounds like you are PRO for the ban......

Which would be taking away a right

 

[Lyric's Dad]

you said something along the lines of

"this nation is taking away the rights of its people"

and by that, do you mean banning gay marriage?

Cuz it sounds like you are PRO for the ban......

Which would be taking away a right

Again, gays have the exact same marriage rights as any heterosexual. No, they want "special rights" of which they are not entitled to.

 

[peace4all]

alright, thats because maybe when the definition of marriage (which was recently changed) was made, there was no thought of people being gay, and wanting to be married.

When cars first came out, tehre wernt seat belt laws, or cell phone laws, so does that make it bad?


Marriage has always been marrying the person you love. However recently, christians have been working on changing the definition of it.

and ppl say that liverals use words to try to get their way :/

 

[Merry Menagerie]

Marriage has always been marrying the person you love. However recently, christians have been working on changing the definition of it.

Ppppfffttttt *ahem* no Marriage was God's idea! It was between a man and a woman - Christians have never and will never change the meaning of 'marriage'.

Gays have the same rights as everyone else.

But I don't believe the OP was about Gays. Wasn't he talking about looking after your own 'home'? Doesn't it say in the bible 'how can you take care of others when you can't take care of your own home' or something?

 

[spirit1st]

Well I look at it different?I look at our nations as our homes and other nation as our neighbors.
No I think each nation is different?ASs we can see some are morec evil than others .They are not blessed the same .So there is a great difference,Too me .No I do not like the gay sin ,And feel they should not be training my child .Nor do I want a person with aids preparing my food or my kids .Nor do I think they should get married or be able to get kids .They are sick minded .I do love them ,but understand there life is not pleasing too the LORD .I see this as very badf in the LORDS EYES .There is NO good evil and bad evil .

 

[antitox]

It was said that "a man cleave to his wife." Men are not wives, UNLESS you are homo gay. Duh.

Christian board..........Christian beliefs...... bible-based. :-D

Homo beliefs.......not biblical.....not Christian.....not natural. :-?


Should be a no-brainer for everyone.

 

[peace4all]

question.

How did the native americans, BEFORE christianity was introduced, learn about marriage.

they called it something else, but it was teh same thing.
what about the chineese?
hindus?

Antitox.

It depends how you read the bible. We all know there are hundreds of sects of christianity, that interpret the bible diffrently. Weall know that some ppl use diffrent versions, that make it interpreted diffrently.

What was a bigger thing god said. Promoting love and acceptance, or promoting hate and discrimination?

 

[bibleberean]

Most cultures and people unless they are competely degenerate like the people who promote and defend marriage between the same sex recognize by their conscience that marriage is between a man and a woman.

The American Indians didn't have same sex marriages because they had a conscience.

Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

Man is without excuse...

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

 

[antitox]

Antitox.

It depends how you read the bible. We all know there are hundreds of sects of christianity, that interpret the bible diffrently. Weall know that some ppl use diffrent versions, that make it interpreted diffrently.

You are well aware that the bible is opposed to homosexuality. God is very explicit about it. The "interpretation" default does not work.

Admit at least that much truth in the matter.

What was a bigger thing god said. Promoting love and acceptance, or promoting hate and discrimination?

He does want us to love others, but not at the expense of justice and righteousness.

 

[Vic C.]

...
But I don't believe the OP was about Gays....

It most certainly wasn't and thanks for pointing that out, MM.

The rights we should be concerned about are those inalienable God-given rights...

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

Shouldn't these rights apply to the world as a whole? I thinks so. This document is one of the greatest documents ever written. DO these words mean anything to anyone? I have set in bold some passages of particular importance.

Let's not turn this topic into YET another Gay Rights thread or be warned, it will be locked.

Thanks.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

question.

How did the native americans, BEFORE christianity was introduced, learn about marriage.

they called it something else, but it was teh same thing.
what about the chineese?
hindus?

Antitox.

It depends how you read the bible. We all know there are hundreds of sects of christianity, that interpret the bible diffrently. Weall know that some ppl use diffrent versions, that make it interpreted diffrently.

What was a bigger thing god said. Promoting love and acceptance, or promoting hate and discrimination?

God has left His print in each of us. People will do the right things if they try to seek Him. The Bible even says that even creation speaks and teaches of Him. We have the right things in us, but we gravitate to the enemy.

 

[spirit1st]

What was a bigger thing god said. Promoting love and acceptance, or promoting hate and discrimination?
STANDING FIRM on HIS LIVING WORD .
1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
A little evil ,leads to much evil .Look at our nation?
or most homes ?
We can see how ,our childern are being taught,They do not want to die for this nation ,nor obey the laws .They disobey there moms and dads .And only want to please them selfs .We have allowed this to come about .
gay life is a sick life .The mind has been tricked .But if we live to or for the flesh ?We must understand?we will be rejected of the LORd .We must live too or for the inner man .our spirits .
1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.


Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

 

[peace4all]

antitox, I agree that the bible preaches hat to gays.

but i also agree that the bible teaches acceptance and love.

thats why i dont agree with the bible as a whole


btw, if u want to run a christian country, move somewhere else. We have a constitution, for a reason.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

antitox, I agree that the bible preaches hat to gays.

but i also agree that the bible teaches acceptance and love.

thats why i dont agree with the bible as a whole


btw, if u want to run a christian country, move somewhere else. We have a constitution, for a reason.

I am betting you have never read the constitution nor have you looked into the history of it's writing or the people who designed it. While this nation was founded to allow people to worship any way they felt they should, it most definately was founded on Christian principles and dedicated to the God of the Judeo Christian ethic. I have no doubt that God will be kicked out of this country as it is rapidly happening before our eyes. But make no mistake, as this happens, this country will get worse and worse and will suffer judgment it is not prepared to face.

 

[Vic C.]

Good post LD. Chronicles 7:14-15 is just as applicable today as it was when it was first written.

2 Chr 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chr 7:15 Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.

 

[spirit1st]

Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

1Pe 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
Jam 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jam 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
Jam 1:4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.


1Jo 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

The little short time we are on earth ,is not worth suffering forever more ,much better to serve HIM now and reap GOOD ,than to burn forever more?
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.