Poll: Respecting her tattoo wish

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Should Christians respect a woman's wish for a tattoo?

Poll closed Sep 28, 2012.
  1. Yes

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  2. Umm...not sure

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  3. (Rather not say)

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  1. julykuy

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    Either we are growing in Christ or we are not. Suggesting in any way that a tattoo is proof of that growth is ludicrous.
     
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  2. farouk

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    Actually I don't think anyone here is suggesting that.
     
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  3. farouk

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    You said back a bit:

    Claudya: Yes, you need to be careful about ppl's names being tattooed.
     
  4. farouk

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    I guess one can say, Why should you regret your second piercing, either?

    While it's true that some people do live to regret their tattoo, others - sometimes Christians with faith based designs? - don't regret them, either.

    Blessings.
     
  5. lowrab777

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    I actually was talking about the whole process of getting married which starts at meeting the person first. Once you are at the stage in the process of courting to actually get married you would have, or should have already been through the meeting choosing and getting to know each other stages......
    The fact is, a tattoo could prevent you from meeting, choosing or getting to know a person due discrimination. Perhaps it shouldn't be that way but the true reality of discrimination exists its part of human nature, and it is an element wisdom when applied in the correct way. For example>Wisdom would tell you not to go down that dark alley at 2:00 in the morning so you take the lighted one instead......
    Wisdom would tell you to approach that thuggish looking person with caution or avoid them all together......
    I"m not suggesting that I think tattoos are thuggish looking, But how many people out there are thinking that? and how many people will treat you different if they do not know you, and you have a tat?...........
    Honestly if I had not met my wife before she got the tattoo I would have thought that there was a greater chance of her being a sexually promiscuous , or slutty person and I might have conducted myself different around her and her friends. those types of tattoos didn't get the nick name tramp stamp for no reason. They seem to be there to attract attention to the butt hips and low back, it is similar to advertisement. Especially if the woman has an attractive body to begin with. I'm just calling the facts. Oh and by the way she keeps it covered now to bad it is something that can never be removed. Or i wouldn't have to worry about other guys checking out my wife's rearend any time we go swimming with the kids or if her shirt comes up her back a little wile we are mountain biking public trails.
     
  6. lowrab777

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    You see the problem is that even though my wife wanted the tat when she got it, she wasn't thinking of how her future husband might have felt about the decision. Or what type of effect it will have on my two beautiful daughters when they get old enough to get one. Or what type of effect it will have on my two sons when they start looking for a woman to court. May bee I'm over analytical but it is wise to consider all these types of things as we walk this christian walk and decide how to conduct ourselves...
    Tattoos are serious life long decisions, Sometimes tattoo shops exploit people just to get their money I personally have known a few tattoo artists and I can tell you without a doubt that they could care less what type of effect their design will have on your life, and they are doing it to make money, so of course they are going to glorify the idea and speak only good about it, they would even try to talk someone into doing a faith based tat if it would make the sale. I have seen a lot pretty crappy art work that people payed a lot of money for and I have seen some practically flawless tats that turned out to look amazing. Now just because some artist are like that doesn't mean they are all the same.....
     
  7. lowrab777

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    But that much being said if I were going to decide to get a Tattoo Wisdom would tell me to make sure the artist isn't going to take advantage of me and make sure that I don't let them put whatever they want on my skin. I would really be searching for the artist with adequate skill and the rite attitude, Some one that only considers your body as a canvas might not give a first thought about how the tat will effect you they are only pursuing the practice, opportunity, or money they want. On the other hand If the artist is truly thoughtful and thinks of you as a person who will have to live with the tat for the rest of your life I would hope that they would have some type of counsel to offer you beforehand so as to make certain that you understood the gravity of what you are about to do. Yet not many of them will do that simply because it is a conflict of interest, and they are getting paid for the service.
     
  8. farouk

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    Hi lowrab777: Some interesting comments. So roughly how old are your kids, if I may ask, since you mention them. In many US states the lower age limit for tattoos is 18, although some states allow younger teens to have it done with parental permission. I'm guessing you (and your wife, deferring to you) wouldn't give them permission under 18; when they are 18 they count as adult, although it doesn't necessarily mean they will or they ought to get them. Just that many do; the parlor visit at 18 is a kind of institution for many young people. (For them it's a bit like piercing second earlobe holes would have been, 35 years ago, I guess.)

    You are right that some tattoo artwork is amazing. It doesn't have to be lower back of course; ankle, arm, wrist, are widespread choices, too; some placements are easier to cover than others.

    Blessings.
     
  9. lowrab777

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    Sorry man I totally didn't mean to hijack your thread, that was not my intention, I thought this was over a pole so I am only offering the sense behind one element of the poles participants. Really though I don't love anyone any less if they have a tat. I do care about people and I feel obligated to at least point out some of the dangers of marking the skin in a rational way. I have my opinion and it doesn't bother me that I have no power over anyone else s actions. I do have children that I am going send out into the world one day and those kids are going to contribute to this society. I think we all have a duty to consider what our actions now will do to the condition of our society in the future, because the future does not belong to us.
     
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    The analogy of a lawyer comes to mind. S/he can say to the client, there is this argument, and there is the other argument, but the way you plea or instruct, is your decision. Interestingly, in law, the client is responsible for the lawyer's representation (unless there is proven negligence, etc.). So you are right: there really does need to be a lot of aforethought and discussion before the client is ready to instruct the tattoo artist.

    Some Christians do put a lot of thought into the design of faith based tattoos, particularly if they are motivated by witness considerations.

    Blessings.
     
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    My kids are 1,3,6,8,16
     
  12. farouk

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    At a theoretical level would it really upset you if any of your kids eventually as adults chose a faith based design to be inked (whether a Christian fish sign <><, etc, on a wrist, or wherever)? Some parents would have negative feelings. Some Christian parents would also have a sense of joy that they wanted to witness in such an open way.

    Blessings.
     
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    Oh okay so it's only the 16 years old that would be remotely near the theoretical possibility of getting one (not that he or she will, or ought to, necessarily. etc.)

    A lot of time yet. It seems that teens 'discover' earrings long before tattoos, anyway...

    Blessings.
     
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    Peace out people! and shabat shalom! or happy sabbath!:wave I gotta go outta town for Thanks giving. God Bless you all and protect you all on your travels and gatherings. And watch out for those thanksgiving dinners they might make your tats stretch out :hysterical
     
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  16. farouk

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    Bon voyage! and it sounds like anyway your family isn't likely to be confronting the tattoo issue just yet (sounds like your wife out of deference to you might not get another one anyway; whether your kids in several years time might be influenced by the fact that mom has one, remains to be seem, although often it's other - Christian? - young people who might be the immediate influence rather than one's parent). Blessings for Thanksgiving!
     
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    I think questdriven has largely bowed out of the discussion now; but this point she made back a bit is interesting and to a fair degree relevant, I reckon. Context and intent have a lot to do with it.

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  18. farouk

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    No need to go through pain, right ; these days it can be avoided. Blessings.
     
  19. farouk

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    lowrab777, above, is probably coming at it from a different angle; he hasn't gotten accustomed to his wife's tattoo.

    From back a bit, Angel's mom obviously has indeed gotten accustomed to Angel's.

    A sensible observation is that people's reactions are always going to vary, I think.

    Blessings.
     
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    lowrab777: (I didn't comment yet on this post of yours, above; one of several.)

    Well, I'm sure your lovely wife educated you to the realities of contemporary ink. In North America today, 59% of parlor clients are women, with some areas reporting 70%. Good, bad or indifferent statistics, they are somewhere near the reality, anyway.

    Blessings.
     
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