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  1. jesus lover

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    In genesis 35:18 it says her soul was departing.Not she was departing.But in psalms 90:10 it says we fly away.Not "our soul flies away".Sorry if i have posted this before.

    Genesis 35:18 says, "her soul was departing," not "she was departing."

    1 Kings 17:21-22 says, "the child's soul came back to him," not "the child came back."

    Psalm 146:4 says, "his spirit departs, he returns to the earth." It does not say "he departs, his body returns to the earth."

    Luke 8:55 says, "her spirit returned and she awoke," not "she returned and awoke."

    Acts 20:10 says, "his soul is still in him," not "he is still in his body."

    Do you see the big difference between genesis and psalms?In my fisrt post? And all the other examples after my first example of genesis and psalms?
     
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  2. Eugene

    Eugene Staff Member Moderator

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    Hi Jesus Lover. Good question. Most times the word SOUL is interpreted as our life we have as a breathing creature. Hope this helps.

    Gen 35:18 And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin.
    Psa 78:50 He made a way to his anger; he spared not their soul from death, but gave their life over to the pestilence;
    Psa 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

    Before Christ died, the righteous went to paradise, or what is known as Abraham’s bosom. Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. After Jesus rose to His Father, He took those in Abraham's bosom to heaven since there was now the way made open by His sacrifice, and in 2Co 12:4 we read of how Paul how was caught up into paradise, where it was in the lower parts of the earth before.
    Eph 4:9 (Now that He (Jesus) ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
    Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

    Today when we die is to be absent from the body is to be present with our Lord.
    2Co 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
    2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight)
    2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

    Strong’s Concordance translates the word SOUL in the following manner.
    soul (475x), life (117x), person (29x), mind (15x), heart (15x), creature (9x), body (8x), himself (8x), yourselves (6x), dead (5x), will (4x), desire (4x), man (3x), themselves (3x), any (3x), appetite (2x), miscellaneous (47x).

    Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
    I. soul, self, life, creature, person, appetite, mind, living being, desire, emotion, passion
    A. that which breathes, the breathing substance or being, soul, the inner being of man
    B. living being
    C. living being (with life in the blood)
    D. the man himself, self, person or individual
    E. seat of the appetites
    F. seat of emotions and passions
    G. activity of mind
    i. dubious
    H. activity of the will
    . dubious
    I. activity of the character
    . dubious
     
  3. wondering

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    I believe that if we limit our understanding of how we're made to the bible, we cannot really understand it.

    Why?
    Because heart is used to mean something
    Soul is used to mean something
    Spirit is used to mean something

    But not Always the same thing!
    They change depending on who's writing.

    Have you studied both the Dichotomy and Trichotomy of the make-up of a person?

    I believe in the trichotomy of the human being: Body, Soul, Spirit
    This is a good study and helps a lot when reading the bible.

    It could not be gleened only from reading the OT and NT.


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  4. jesus lover

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    In genesis 35:18 it says her soul was departing.Not she was departing.But in psalms 90:10 it says we fly away.Not "our soul flies away".Sorry if i have posted this before.

    Genesis 35:18 says, "her soul was departing," not "she was departing."

    1 Kings 17:21-22 says, "the child's soul came back to him," not "the child came back."

    Psalm 146:4 says, "his spirit departs, he returns to the earth." It does not say "he departs, his body returns to the earth."

    Luke 8:55 says, "her spirit returned and she awoke," not "she returned and awoke."

    Acts 20:10 says, "his soul is still in him," not "he is still in his body."

    Do you see the big difference between genesis and psalms?In my first post? And all the other examples after my first example of genesis and psalms?
     
  5. Eugene

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    Hi again Jesus Lover, I guess I'm missing your point. A person's soul is the breath life they posses. If our body without breath life goes anywhere, it would probably be in the belly of some animal, or the grave.

    You reference 1 Kings 17:21-22 saying the child's soul (Breath) came back to him, and that's a very common occurrence with near death experiences of drowning or heart attack victims, and others unconsciousness or resuscitated from a state of death. Where was their soul (breath) in that period of time?

    This may be of help: Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    The Hebrew word "Nephesh" (Strong's H5354) is properly interpreted as a breathing creature. Would there also be conscience thought associated with our life? Of course, and in the believer our life departs to be present with our Lord.
    2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

    If this still doesn't satisfy your thoughts of what our soul is, can you express what you think it is? Thanks. :)

     
  6. wondering

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    Hi Jesus Lover

    I see the difference.
    In Genesis her SOUL is departing.
    In Psalms, WE go away.

    Our SOUL IS US.
    We are our soul.
    "We" is our soul.

    our body is decaying and will not be resurrected until the last day.
    But our SOUL, which is US, will live on even after Death.
     
  7. blair032

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    If it hasn't been stated yet, any question you have re a verse, just type 'explain' b4 the verse in question. That'll give you a multitude of similar, & a few not, interpretations of the verse.
     

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