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I am suffering from the oppression of the Egyptian government . sorry about my English
And the story is

Me and My Friend were going to church ,and there was seven young Muslims who were sitting in front of the mosque opposite the church , they were call Us names and insults Us , i told my friend just keep walking don't care , but they didn't get enough. started to walk behind us, they get out knives and threatened us , they stole our wallets ,my watch , and we have received a severe beating, there was a policeman who was sitting in front of church ,he didn't do anything but turning the Chair giving us his back. I was stunned and my friend was fully collapsed . then we went to the police department , we have waited an hour until the policeman finish his prayer.
then we told him about what happend , he said u have to wait for Colonel Ahmed El said ,we waited another hour , then he entered the office with prayer rug and has (Zabibah) prayer dark mark on his forehead that's mean he is Muslim fanatic . i said good afternoon officer
he replied with Muslim's greeting.i told him what happend , he said give me Ur ID card and wait outside , i said they stole my wallet & my ID in it, he reply get outside for a minute then.
We were outside for half an hour and the officer did not come out of his office . i requested from the Secretary transfer us to the medical examination more than once but no one reply, Suddenly, someone his name was captin Ahmed Ezat told me why u shouted loudly and started 2 curse my religion , I was stunned, i told him what I've did wrong? we're the victims ,i just need my rights, he reply you have no rights here and cursed my religion again, i said I'll tell about Ur behaviour to Mr Ahmed El said . he reply there's no need ,nothing happens here without his knowledge and started 2 curse, then ordered the secretaries 2 take us in custody.

In the next morning we were sent away to the prosecution , when i entered the office , the prosecutor call me different name , i told him that's not my name, he didn't reply , he accuses me of assaulting police ,causing officer injuries , the destruction of their police car and there was people saw you do that, i told him that's not my name I did not do any of that ,and i mentioned what happened to me , but he didn't record any word I said. He started to ask questions then he wrote the answers of it , but i didn't sign. He said Ur version of story wont get u any good, i told him i want call my lawyer , he refused , and the decision was issued four days of imprisonment till the investigation ends
I knew after that the name he was calling me is a name for wanted drug dealer!

I came back and stepped up to the Investigation room ,i saw the waste of humanity, i never saw even animals treated like that, filthy insult ,cursing and indecent assault . they are bunch of Sadistic psychopaths enjoy insulting and torturing people in front of me. I have seen young people hanging upside down of the ceiling and their heads on electric heater ,the officers was laughing and enjoying it. I will not mentioned what happened to me, but you can imagine detectives dealing with me as a drug dealer .
When I spoke about what happened they threatening to arrest me and increase the insulting.

Then i was sent to the State Security Investigations(ssi) office , there was young officer there , i said good evening , he replied wiz Muslim greetings, and ask me what happened ? , I told him every thing , He replied here SSI we do not give a sh** about anything ,we have our own rules. i said i just wants my rights, he threatened to arrest me , then he show me a paper and told me that ''if i wrote Ur name on this paper and signed it , u'll go to prison behind the sun no one will know about u, If i wanna kill u now I'll do it ,then he picked up his gun and pointed at my face . i was really afraid and broke down , i told him OK what u want me to do ? he replied'' Bravo just Forget all what happend, don't ever enter police department especially if u gonna complain about any Muslims , coz this is a Muslims Country, Do u understand ?

Then I walked out from State Security headquarters , didn't know what would happen , I was surprised by the three of the people who attacked me and my friend , sitting with officer talking and laughing.

I just wants all Christians and all global human rights organizations ,expose the dirty persecution from the Muslims, whether they are from the people or the government ,especially the Interior Ministry and all its departments and in particular, the SSI sector

that's why , I want to know everything about the religious asylum ?? :sad
 
Well its common knowledge Muslim majority nations dont give a care about rights for others, funny how in the western world, muslims moan about the least thing and always get their own way.

Dont know about Asylum, i mean, the first asylum in UK for a Christian i though was that Syrian Convert.
 
Welcome to the forum Geocool,

First let me say that I am sorry to hear about the situation that you are in, although as stated, this is not an uncommon occurence.

Unfortunately, the majority of users on this forum are not very familiar with the treatment of dhimmi's of ah al kitab (people of the book) among Muslim nations. I know you are not a Muslim, but may I suggest a couple of websites (with forums) where people WOULD be able to help you?

http://www.faithfreedom.org (go to the English forum)
http://www.councilofexmuslims.com

I happen to know there are Egyptians there - Muslims, non-Muslims and Ex-Muslims.

Best wishes and I hope to see you there!

-Sani
 
Shame. I was wondering how long it would take before a Christian actually bothered to read Geocool's post and give him some advice. Sani, we must think alike; I PM'd him as soon as I read his post.
 
Gabe said:
Shame. I was wondering how long it would take before a Christian actually bothered to read Geocool's post and give him some advice. Sani, we must think alike; I PM'd him as soon as I read his post.
Indeed we do!

geocool said:
then he entered the office with prayer rug and has (Zabibah) prayer dark mark on his forehead that's mean he is Muslim fanatic
HAH! No, according to ex-Muslims (and even some Muslims) it just means that a Muslim with this mark is displaying false 'piety' ie. pride. Apparently in order to get these marks you have to either:
(a)Smack your head REALLY HARD on the floor repeatedly (ie. at each prayer)
(b)Create it artificially.

In fact, there was a Muslim on FFI who was talking about different ways to get said mark - ie. heat a cork and push it to your forehead LOL.

(Sorry but I cannot offer any other advice I thought I might tell a funny story instead).
 
Most Christians in the western world (or any westerners for that fact) bother to actually look deeply into Islam.

Everything they do wrong is justified by portions of the western world, we constantly hear even today how 200 years ago, how European empires had slaves and empire dominions and how wrong it all was, however those Muslims, hardly anything is said about their sordid imperialistic past, slavery and also the fact they oppress people to this day and still want the same thing.

All Christians do need to stick together.
 
Greetings,

Thx for ur reply's , i have asked a Refugee Application agent in New Zealand and he told me that

1. You must be OUTSIDE your country of origin to make a Refugee Application

2. Your fear of persecution must be well-founded. You will have to prove it to the Refugee Service officials in the country where you make your Refugee Application

3. Not all countries will accept Refugee Applications, so you must travel to a country which accepts them

4. If you are aware of other people of Egyptian nationality who have made successful applications for Refugee Status on the basis of religious persecution, you would be well advised to travel to that country and make your Refugee Application in that country

I need to know the purpose of making a Refugee Application , if I'm already outside My Country? actually i won't bother my self doing it.

I thought asylum would make Procedures easier and faster.

coz It's so hard and it takes years to get visa for Europe , USA or Canada , things gets difficult now.
 
Geocool,

That is a horrible story. I guess we truly don't realize how precious our religious freedom is in the USA.

I'm not knowledged enough in your government to give you any advice and I don't know about religious asylums.

I just wanted you to know that Christians are thinking and praying for you.

God Bless,

Brian
 
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