SANTA CLAUSE IS EVIL!!!!!!

[gideon3213]

Well its that time of year again: where millions of parents will deliberately deceive their kids into believing that there is a jolly fat man that wears a red suit and has a white beard who live at the north pole; who has flying rain dear and gives presents to every good boy and girl on Christmas night. Unfortunately these kids will believe what they have been told by there parents. After all they have there parents story corroborated with presents from Santa Clause too them on Christmas morning. There faith is Santa is pure and absolute! Just as it is for the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, and other childhood lies that parents deceive there children with while they are young. Then these same parents will tell them about Jesus, and how He died for there sins and rose again the third day. They also believe this with all there little hearts! There faith in this is absolute and pure!

Then when they get to be about 8 or 9 years old, they learn that the story of Santa Clause that they were told by there parents, is not true! And they discover that the Easter bunny is not real, and that the tooth fairy is not true. Thus they discover that the ones that they trusted with all there hearts to tell them the truth and teach them the things that they need to know have been lying too them all their lives! And their faith is shattered! It then becomes impossible for them to ever believe in anything again with the same certainty that they did before. This includes there faith in God! It is the main reason that people do not have enough faith to do the works that Jesus did! Then at some point the kids stop believing what their parents tell them; after all, they have lied to them all there lives and thus they have discredited themselves too them. The kids at this point loose a very important anchor in there lives. (eg trust in there parents.) and they start to drift, looking for something or someone that they can truly trust; but they do not know who or what that may be. So they start rebelling against their parents, who they no longer trust, and start trying to make their own way.

Thus we see that when people deliberately deceive their children, causing them to believe in Santa, the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, etc. they are abusing their kids in the worst way possible. And they are destroying their close relationship with them that they otherwise would have had. And worst of all; they are destroying their faith!

Now the bible tells us that the father of lies is the devil! And those who tell lies do the work of the devil. The bible tells us that we are to tell the truth to one another.

Rev 22:14-15
4 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. NKJV

Col 3:9-10
9 Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, 10 and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him, NKJV

Therefore I conclude that deceiving kids into believing in Santa is a very evil thing and it should never be done!

The proper thing to do is to tell your kids the truth about Santa from the very start. That is tell them about how that there is no one who live at the north pole, that there is no such thing as flying reign deer, that no one named Santa is going to be giving them presents on Christmas day. Tell them how this fantasy came into existence. And by doing so, you will maintain their trust in you, and preserve their ability to have sincere, pure faith in God! It’s long past time for the children of God to stand up against this demonic deception that takes place each year and start holding up the banner of truth!

Have a great day.

 

[KCKID]

Well its that time of year again: where millions of parents will deliberately deceive their kids into believing that there is a jolly fat man that wears a red suit and has a white beard who live at the north pole; who has flying rain dear and gives presents to every good boy and girl on Christmas night. Unfortunately these kids will believe what they have been told by there parents. After all they have there parents story corroborated with presents from Santa Clause too them on Christmas morning. There faith is Santa is pure and absolute! Just as it is for the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, and other childhood lies that parents deceive there children with while they are young. Then these same parents will tell them about Jesus, and how He died for there sins and rose again the third day. They also believe this with all there little hearts! There faith in this is absolute and pure!

Then when they get to be about 8 or 9 years old, they learn that the story of Santa Clause that they were told by there parents, is not true! And they discover that the Easter bunny is not real, and that the tooth fairy is not true. Thus they discover that the ones that they trusted with all there hearts to tell them the truth and teach them the things that they need to know have been lying too them all their lives! And their faith is shattered! It then becomes impossible for them to ever believe in anything again with the same certainty that they did before. This includes there faith in God! It is the main reason that people do not have enough faith to do the works that Jesus did! Then at some point the kids stop believing what their parents tell them; after all, they have lied to them all there lives and thus they have discredited themselves too them. The kids at this point loose a very important anchor in there lives. (eg trust in there parents.) and they start to drift, looking for something or someone that they can truly trust; but they do not know who or what that may be. So they start rebelling against their parents, who they no longer trust, and start trying to make their own way.

Thus we see that when people deliberately deceive their children, causing them to believe in Santa, the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, etc. they are abusing their kids in the worst way possible. And they are destroying their close relationship with them that they otherwise would have had. And worst of all; they are destroying their faith!

Now the bible tells us that the father of lies is the devil! And those who tell lies do the work of the devil. The bible tells us that we are to tell the truth to one another.

Rev 22:14-15
4 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. NKJV

Col 3:9-10
9 Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, 10 and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him, NKJV

Therefore I conclude that deceiving kids into believing in Santa is a very evil thing and it should never be done!

The proper thing to do is to tell your kids the truth about Santa from the very start. That is tell them about how that there is no one who live at the north pole, that there is no such thing as flying reign deer, that no one named Santa is going to be giving them presents on Christmas day. Tell them how this fantasy came into existence. And by doing so, you will maintain their trust in you, and preserve their ability to have sincere, pure faith in God! It’s long past time for the children of God to stand up against this demonic deception that takes place each year and start holding up the banner of truth!

Have a great day.

Serious question. Now that you've told the kids that Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, etc. are a myth, how do you now prove to the kids that God is not also a myth?

Please keep it simple.

 

[gideon3213]

Serious question. Now that you've told the kids that Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, etc. are a myth, how do you now prove to the kids that God is not also a myth?

Please keep it simple.

I am a christian who opperates in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I speak in toungues, heal the sick, prophecy, etc.

I have two kids, they are both grown now and are not living with me.

Shortly after my wife left me, my daughter, who was 4 years old, broke her left arm when she fell down a flight of stairs. My wife had taken her to the hospital and they put a cast on her arm. I found out about it 2 weeks later. I talked to my daughter and asked her if she believed that Jesus would heal her arm if we asked Him too. She said "yeh daddy, I believe.' I said ok, lets pray. I then asked God to heal her arm. and at that moment my daughter and I both felt the power of God in a very real and powerful way. At that moment, I knew that her arm was no longer broken. 2 weeks later I found out that my wife had taken her back to the docters office and that he had taken an exray of the arm to see if it was still set right and to see if it was healing ok. After he looked at the exray; he came out and started taking off the cast. as he did so, he told my wife that he had never seen a bone heal so quickly, or as completley as this bone had healed. It was just as if it had never been broken!

So miricles are the number one way to do this. The second thing to do is to introduce them to God at an early age and let them feel His love and joy in their hearts. Then Teach them how to walk in His love and joy at all times. Because you see, God's spirit can be felt by your senses. His love is something that is very intense and very real! So the second key is personal relationship with God.

Then the third thing is to show them through science the reality of God through the great diversity and highly complex designs of nature. For the bible tells us that what can be known of God can be clearly seen by what he has created.

So these are the ways that I did prove to my kids that God is not a myth!

Have a great day.

 

[Sissy]

I feel your pain about Santa Claus.

We get our children to believe in an eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who loves you and desires that you be good ..... called Santa Claus.

:guitar He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake. :guitar

Then our children find out this eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who loves you and desires that you be good is totally make-believe!

And we follow that up with another eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who desires that you be good .... called GOD.



So, I'm not so sure that using Santa Claus with kids is a bad thing IF he is used as a "type", and not a reality.

In other words, have fun with Santa for the kids.
But when they get older let them know that there is a true eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who loves you and desires that you be good.
And Santa was only a playful "type" of the real thing.
After-all, wasn't a real lamb (baaaaa) first used as a "type" to relay the message of the REAL LAMB?

So, go ahead and use Santa with young children as sort of a "parable" to relay the message of the real thing.
When they are older, tell them Santa was only a "type".
That way they will view Santa as a "type", instead of an outright lie.
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/522533#ixzz17PLOZ7hU​

 

[gideon3213]

I feel your pain about Santa Claus.

We get our children to believe in an eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who loves you and desires that you be good ..... called Santa Claus.

:guitar He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake. :guitar

Then our children find out this eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who loves you and desires that you be good is totally make-believe!​

And we follow that up with another eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who desires that you be good .... called GOD.​

So, I'm not so sure that using Santa Claus with kids is a bad thing IF he is used as a "type", and not a reality.​

In other words, have fun with Santa for the kids.
But when they get older let them know that there is a true eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who loves you and desires that you be good.
And Santa was only a playful "type" of the real thing.
After-all, wasn't a real lamb (baaaaa) first used as a "type" to relay the message of the REAL LAMB?​

So, go ahead and use Santa with young children as sort of a "parable" to relay the message of the real thing.
When they are older, tell them Santa was only a "type".
That way they will view Santa as a "type", instead of an outright lie.​

I am sorry, but it does not work that way, if you do what you suggest, then santa becomes a god.

The story of sata is a lie. and as christians we should never lie to our children! or any one else! We need to teach our children to never lie, and we must do so by our actions as well as our words. the lies of Santa, tooth fairy, easter bunny etc, and not innocent, they are harmfull! It is a serious form of child abuse!

So please stop lying to your children in the name of 'fun', for God will not forgive you for destroying there faith if you continue on willfully deceiving them.

The bible says that to him that knows to do good and they do not do it; to them it is sin. In this post I have clearly stated how harmful it is to decieve your children in these things. you no longer have ignorance as an excuse for what you do.

So please, In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ i emplor you: stop deciving your kids!

have a great day.

 

[Sissy]

Well, Gideon, I told my kids from the start that Santa was make believe.
But my parents did not.
I was about 7 or 8 when I found out Santa was make believe.
And I never grew up thinking my parents were big fat liars because of it.
Nor did it hinder my walk with God.

Christ used many parables and metaphoric symbolism to teach a message.
None of those parables and symbols had to be a literal historical event.
Christ was not a LIAR for telling parables and using symbolism of things that did not actually happen in order to express a message.

 

[KCKID]

I am a christian who opperates in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I speak in toungues, heal the sick, prophecy, etc.

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Why did you feel the need to boast? Just saying that you are a Christian would have been quite sufficient.

I have two kids, they are both grown now and are not living with me.

Shortly after my wife left me, my daughter, who was 4 years old, broke her left arm when she fell down a flight of stairs. My wife had taken her to the hospital and they put a cast on her arm. I found out about it 2 weeks later. I talked to my daughter and asked her if she believed that Jesus would heal her arm if we asked Him too. She said "yeh daddy, I believe.' I said ok, lets pray. I then asked God to heal her arm. and at that moment my daughter and I both felt the power of God in a very real and powerful way. At that moment, I knew that her arm was no longer broken. 2 weeks later I found out that my wife had taken her back to the docters office and that he had taken an exray of the arm to see if it was still set right and to see if it was healing ok. After he looked at the exray; he came out and started taking off the cast. as he did so, he told my wife that he had never seen a bone heal so quickly, or as completley as this bone had healed. It was just as if it had never been broken!

So miricles are the number one way to do this. The second thing to do is to introduce them to God at an early age and let them feel His love and joy in their hearts. Then Teach them how to walk in His love and joy at all times. Because you see, God's spirit can be felt by your senses. His love is something that is very intense and very real! So the second key is personal relationship with God.

Then the third thing is to show them through science the reality of God through the great diversity and highly complex designs of nature. For the bible tells us that what can be known of God can be clearly seen by what he has created.

So these are the ways that I did prove to my kids that God is not a myth!

Have a great day.

What you have done is to introduce the kids to YOUR belief. You have not proven to them and cannot prove to them that God is not a myth. God is a part of a belief system and His existence cannot be proven impirically. I'm certainly not saying that God does not exist ...I myself believe in a Creator. The only reason I bring this up at all is because of your extreme aversion to a harmless fictitional character - Santa Claus - whose origins were to help the needy. There is nothing wrong with the concept of Santa Claus. The commercialism that has evolved from this - if this is your main problem with Santa - is not the fault of Saint Nicholas.

 

[farouk]

G: This whole matter is tied up with the giving of gifts to children at Christmas.

Sorry, but I think that the title of the thread is therefore somewhat disruptive, whatever one's historical views are.

 

[gideon3213]

Well, Gideon, I told my kids from the start that Santa was make believe.
But my parents did not.
I was about 7 or 8 when I found out Santa was make believe.
And I never grew up thinking my parents were big fat liars because of it.
Nor did it hinder my walk with God.

Christ used many parables and metaphoric symbolism to teach a message.
None of those parables and symbols had to be a literal historical event.
Christ was not a LIAR for telling parables and using symbolism of things that did not actually happen in order to express a message.

*Edited by Moderator*

there is a huge difference between telling a mythical parable that everyone understands to be an allegory of something that is true: and telling a child a lie that says a man called santa actually exists and that he lives on the north pole and gives out gifts every Christmas to good girls and boys. The first is understood from the beginning to be a fabricated story that is made up in order to illustrate a point: the second is done to make someone believe that a made up story is true! The first does not destroy faith or trust; the second does! The first is not a lie because it is not being told in order to make someone believe that that parable is true: the latter is a lie because the person is deliberately trying to deceive another person into believing that a lie is the truth! This is something that we must not do to anyone, much less our own flesh and blood.<O></O>

have a great day

have a great day.

 

[KCKID]

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there is a huge difference between telling a mythical parable that everyone understands to be an allegory of something that is true: and telling a child a lie that says a man called santa actually exists and that he lives on the north pole and gives out gifts every Christmas to good girls and boys. The first is understood from the beginning to be a fabricated story that is made up in order to illustrate a point: the second is done to make someone believe that a made up story is true! The first does not destroy faith or trust; the second does! The first is not a lie because it is not being told in order to make someone believe that that parable is true: the latter is a lie because the person is deliberately trying to deceive another person into believing that a lie is the truth! This is something that we must not do to anyone, much less our own flesh and blood.<O></O>

As previously mentioned, you cannot prove that God or the Bible is not myth. The best you can do is to have complete faith and trust in the Bible authors. There are those who are quite justified in their belief (there's that word again) that there is no God because of absence of proof and there is no way that you or I can offer concrete evidence that would convince them otherwise. It would be nice if we could. These people don't believe in Santa Claus either ...even though they actually SEE and HEAR hundreds of them running around every year.

 

[Sissy]

there is a huge difference between telling a mythical parable that everyone understands to be an allegory of something that is true: and telling a child a lie that says a man called santa actually exists and that he lives on the north pole and gives out gifts every Christmas to good girls and boys. The first is understood from the beginning to be a fabricated story that is made up in order to illustrate a point: the second is done to make someone believe that a made up story is true! The first does not destroy faith or trust; the second does! The first is not a lie because it is not being told in order to make someone believe that that parable is true: the latter is a lie because the person is deliberately trying to deceive another person into believing that a lie is the truth! This is something that we must not do to anyone, much less our own flesh and blood.<o></o>

have a great day.

GOD set up a system of a Temple, priesthood, and sacrifices.
Israel did this for years and years and years.
Was that the true means of salvation? NO!
But still, God had them do this for many years.
Was God LYING to them, or was He simply using something they could physically comprehend as a tool (a shadow) to express an eternal truth of the real deal?

And because of that shadow that they had experienced for years and years, they were better equipped to understand the full implications when the real deal (Christ) was revealed.

Santa, that eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who loves you and desires that you be good is just a physical type of tool (a shadow) that young children are able to comprehend until the real deal (GOD) is revealed to them.

 

[gideon3213]

Totally uncalled for.
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GOD set up a system of a Temple, priesthood, and sacrifices.
Israel did this for years and years and years.
Was that the true means of salvation? NO!
But still, God had them do this for many years.
Was God LYING to them, or was He simply using something they could physically comprehend as a tool (a shadow) to express an eternal truth of the real deal?

And because of that shadow that they had experienced for years and years, they were better equipped to understand the full implications when the real deal (Christ) was revealed.

Santa, that eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being who loves you and desires that you be good is just a physical type of tool (a shadow) that young children are able to comprehend until the real deal (GOD) is revealed to them.

You ask 'Was that the true means of salvation?' the answer is YES! The preisthood and sacrifices were the means of salvation for the jews until Jesus came and instituted the new covenant. the bible makes it plain that there sins were forgiven by the animal sacrifices that were made for sin.

Now you are giving santa god like qualities: when did he get those? The story of santa does not have santa as being like god. He is supposed to have elves, and magical reindeer and a magical sleigh in which he puts his presants into on christmass eave and then magically flies abourd the world landing on roof tops and going down chimneys and putting presants under trees and in stockings and even eating milk and cookies that the kids leave out for him. This is the story of santa! He has never been taught to be an 'eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent being' this is just nonsense! There is absolutely no justification for destroying childrens faith with this sort of idolitry.

It is ok to tell your children about santa clause only if you make it plain to them that santa does not really exist and that no one lives on the north pole, and that the hole story about him is a myth. If they understand these things; then the story is harmless. It is only harmful when parents decide to decieve their chidren into believing that santa actually exists.

Please stop this form of child abuse.

 

[Sissy]

Hebrews 10
(4) For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

 

[gideon3213]

Hebrews 10
(4) For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Ex 29:35-36
35 "Thus you shall do to Aaron and his sons, according to all that I have commanded you. Seven days you shall consecrate them. 36 And you shall offer a bull every day as a sin offering for atonement.
NKJV
Lev 4:27-35
27'If anyone of the common people sins unintentionally by doing something against any of the commandments of the LORD in anything which ought not to be done, and is guilty, 28 or if his sin which he has committed comes to his knowledge, then he shall bring as his offering a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he has committed. 29 And he shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering, and kill the sin offering at the place of the burnt offering. 30 Then the priest shall take some of its blood with his finger, put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and pour all the remaining blood at the base of the altar. 31 He shall remove all its fat, as fat is removed from the sacrifice of the peace offering; and the priest shall burn it on the altar for a sweet aroma to the LORD. So the priest shall make atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him.
32'If he brings a lamb as his sin offering, he shall bring a female without blemish. 33 Then he shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering, and kill it as a sin offering at the place where they kill the burnt offering. 34 The priest shall take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger, put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and pour all the remaining blood at the base of the altar. 35 He shall remove all its fat, as the fat of the lamb is removed from the sacrifice of the peace offering. Then the priest shall burn it on the altar, according to the offerings made by fire to the LORD. So the priest shall make atonement for his sin that he has committed, and it shall be forgiven him. NKJV

This is just one passage from the old testament that says that sins were indeed forgiven by killing animals on behalf of the one who sined. But it only provided forgiveness: it did not remove the power of sin from the individual. What the author of Hebs is telling us is that the sacrifice of Jesus is greater than the sacrifice of animals because it removes the power of sin from the believer. Thus enabling him to actully obey the moral laws of God. This is what is meant by the words 'take away sins' in Hebs 10:4. This concept is stated clearly in Rom 6:1-ff, and Rom 8:1-ff and other places as well.

have a great day

 

[gideon3213]

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As previously mentioned, you cannot prove that God or the Bible is not myth. The best you can do is to have complete faith and trust in the Bible authors. There are those who are quite justified in their belief (there's that word again) that there is no God because of absence of proof and there is no way that you or I can offer concrete evidence that would convince them otherwise. It would be nice if we could. These people don't believe in Santa Claus either ...even though they actually SEE and HEAR hundreds of them running around every year.

I am sorry to say that you are wrong when you say that there is no proof for God. as I see an abundance of evidence that proves that God exists all around me. The bible says:

Rom 1:18-23
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man -- and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. NKJV

Nature has such a wide variaty of complex plants and animals that there is just no way that it could have happened by chance. It is evidence of God. you need to see a movie called 'the case for a creator' by Lee Strobel. He gives some pretty compelling scientific evidence that proves that there must be a creator who made everthing.

And the bible has unique attributes that no other religious book has; like bible codes, and accurate prophesy, etc. But this thread is not about these things. So I wont go into any more details here. But I will say that there is ample evidence to prove both the reality of God, and that the Bible contains God's message.

have a great day

 

[l'Chante]

Well, Gideon, I told my kids from the start that Santa was make believe.
But my parents did not.
I was about 7 or 8 when I found out Santa was make believe.
And I never grew up thinking my parents were big fat liars because of it.
Nor did it hinder my walk with God.

;) Believed in Santa. Believed in Santa no more. Now trust in God. I got through the entire Santa thing unscarred.

I guess believing in Santa as a child had no lasting effects.

 

[gideon3213]

;) Believed in Santa. Believed in Santa no more. Now trust in God. I got through the entire Santa thing unscarred.

I guess believing in Santa as a child had no lasting effects.

I disagree, Your ability to believe something on a deep level has been destroyed. As it has been destroyed in me, and many others. You may not know it, because it is something that happened at a young age and you do not remember the effects that it did to you. But it is there none the less.

It is good that you beleive now, but our faith in God (mine included) is not as deep as it could be. It is very shallow in comparison to the faith that we had as children. Let me ask you a question; are you doing the same works that Jesus did? If not it is proof that your faith has been damaged. For the bible tells us that if we believe the same works that Jesus did we will do also, and greater works than what Jesus did we will do. So if the faith that we currently have does not give us the ability to do what Jesus did: then it must be damaged! It is interesting to note that over in Africa, china, and India missionaries report that they are healing the sick, raising the dead, giving site to the blind, giving hearing to the deaf, casting out demons, etc. They say the reason that these miricles are taking place is because the people in these countries have not had there faith destroyed. They are raised in cultures where various forms of satanism are practiced, and they fear those who are involved in these practices. They do not want to tick them off; because they know that if they do that it wont be long before an evil spirt is sent to harm them. So for them, they have a very strong faith in the reality of the spiritual world. And when a Christian comes along and demonstrats that Jesus is superior to the Satanist of their culture, and that through the power of Jesus they can have authority over demons; and they are taught that through the power of the Holy Spirit they can do the things that Jesus did: they believe these things with a strong pure faith: and thus they start healing the sick, casting out demons, etc. This is proof that these people in forign countries have a type of faith that is very rare here in america! And it is evidence that our faith has been severily damaged!

Now there is another point that I need to bring up. I am constantly trying to win souls for Christ, And the number one objection that I constantly get is that when I mention Jesus, they respond with "I suppose you also believen in Santa Clause, Easter Bunny, and the tooth fairy as well!" For these people, and they are numerouse, these child hood fables are proving to be a hinderace to salvation for them. There reasoning is logical: When they were young their parrents decieved them into believing that Santa, tooth fairy, etc, were indeed real beings. and they also taught them that Jesus was a real person, and that God was real as well. But when they learned that Santa, tooth fairy, and easter bunny were not real, then they also conclude that Jesus and God must not be real either! After all, their main sorce for their information on these things was their parents, (and much of the rest of society.) And these people had lied to them about santa, etc, so they must also have lied to them about Jesus. Thus these childhood myths effectivly destroyed their faith in God and Jesus. And for these people, It may prove to be what sends them to Hell forever!

For these reasons I conclude that decieving children into beleiving that santa, tooth fairy, and easter bunny are real, are in fact harming their children. and thus it is a form of abuse!

Have a great day.

 

[Cheyenne K]

I did not grow up believing in Santa (also, my uncle on my dad's side is pretty anti-Santa, so I grew up with parodies mocking him lol). I don't like Santa because how he is used to commercialize Christmas, or portray how Christmas would be "ruined" without gifts in many movies now. I also don't like the fact that Saint Nicholas, a man who loved Jesus incredibly, has been turned into nothing more than a jolly man who gives out presents for Christmas. So I will not teach my future child that an imaginary Santa is real.
However, do I think that kids would be so shattered by the revelation that Santa is not real as to disbelieve in Jesus? No, for the most part. I have never heard of some kid's faith being destroyed when they found out Santa was a myth. Though, on my friend's facebook, she posted a picture with Santa and below it said, "Kids, when you find out Santa Claus isn't real, just remember what they told you about Jesus." Someone could just do that to be funny, or they could have a legitamate point.

 

[handy]

As usual, there is a plethora of "Santa" threads this time of year. Regarding as to whether or not kids will be irrepariably harmed by Santa, my response is #4 on this thread:

http://www.christianforums.net/f15/childrens-belief-santa-claus-32197/

 

[westtexas]

I disagree, Your ability to believe something on a deep level has been destroyed.

L'Chante, I have read your numerous posts of the tremendous outreach that you do for the people there in your home in Africa. "Believed in Santa, Believed in Santa no more, Now trust in God" Your actions today speak volumes for the fact that whether we believed in Santa or not, or did WHATEVER we did yesterday, that we can love and serve our Lord on a deep level today. I believe that He applauds your service and one day you will hear the words we all want to hear "WELL DONE--EVEN IF YOU DID BELIEVE IN SANTA"

God bless, Westtexas