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I can't really see why Catholics, Wesleyan etc should not be able to all post on the general forum. We are all Christians and to be one body in Christ we shouldn't be separated.
Maybe it is a bit too soon to have a lot of different forums, I don't know. But I do feel that if each denomination had their own forum they would need a moderator who belonged to their faith. There are differences they would understand. I will think more on it wondering but for some reason I feel uneasy about it. If the forum grows very large with a lot more sections it will become too much to manage as yet. Just thoughts that's all (and I can be a bit impetuous.)
 
Tessa said:
I've seen this work on other forums. The only problem is if they are going to have to stick to our statement of faith, some of them will not be allowed to talk of their own belief, unless there are different statements for each of those forums. Also they would need their own moderators who knew their belief.
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Others do not have to agree with out SOF, they just can't attack it.

lets look at the Trinity as an example.

The Orthodox view Trinity as a triangle where Yhvh is head (tip) and Jesus and the HS are on the bottom as the base.
The RCC view it as an upside down triangle where Yhvh and Jesus are on top and the HS is on the tip at the bottom.

This would be a healthy conversation because both can unite in a common truth. They may not agree on the finer details, but neither are trying to tear down a foundational doctrine.
 
Tessa said:
I can't really see why Catholics, Wesleyan etc should not be able to all post on the general forum. We are all Christians and to be one body in Christ we shouldn't be separated.
Maybe it is a bit too soon to have a lot of different forums, I don't know. But I do feel that if each denomination had their own forum they would need a moderator who belonged to their faith. There are differences they would understand. I will think more on it wondering but for some reason I feel uneasy about it. If the forum grows very large with a lot more sections it will become too much to manage as yet. Just thoughts that's all (and I can be a bit impetuous.)
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Yes,,, I agree with you that creating different forums might be a bit too much right now.

I believe that StoveBolts is not saying that there should be a catholic forum and they can ONLY post on there....it's just so that others can also join in, but a sticky could say that they cannot ATTACK catholics on those threads.

I find there are too many attacks on persons that had nothing to do with the inquisition, etc., and are just trying to be Christian.

The special forum for Catholics is not a done deal and the mods and Stovebolts will still consider it...

You bring up good points...
 
Here is Draft 4.2
Dec 12

Anyone can comment or make suggestions....


Draft 4.2
Section Two
Apache Ariel 11
Dec 12



TERMS OF SERVICE
TOS​

DISCUSSION OF SUBJECTS

2.0 Some subjects are limited or banned.

BANNED

2.1 Foul language and explicit sexual material.

2.2 Violent material, unless it relates to a news article.

2.3 Promoting sinful behavior, homosexuality, sex outside of marriage, etc.

2.4 Promoting other faiths other than biblical and historical Christianity. This includes images, links, messages or photos, Ask the Atheist/Agnostic threads promoting non Christian faiths such as:
Agnosticism, atheism, dual seed or two-seedline doctrine, full preterism, serpent seed, universal reconciliation, universal salvation, J.W., Mormonism, and idealogies from the Book of Enoch and the Gospel of Thomas, etc. (alphabetical order for easy listing of
more if needed)

2.5 Posting verses from the The New World Translation (JW) or Book of Mormon.

2.6 Discussing conspiracy theories or any other hostile topics.

2.7 Distorting or maligning Paul's writings or those of any other author of the Bible.

2.8 Attacking, discrediting, or mocking Christianity, or its basic tenets, including links to anti-Christian websites.


LIMITED

2.9 Discussing homosexuality, or LGBT, is allowed only in Christian Talk and Advice and in the Bible Study Forum, and only for the purpose of providing support for those needing biblical clarification, advice, or prayer on how to be healed and free of this lifestyle/struggle. ??

2.10 Discussing questionable sources, documents, writings, etc. is allowed as long as it is not used as a basis of support within a discussion. Do you want to make a list??

2.11 Discussion of Catholic Doctrine will be allowed in End Times Forum to discuss Catholic doctrine on end time beliefs, and in the 1 on 1 Debate Forum. Create a
separate Catholic forum?

If you are not sure about a site or its content, please direct your questions to a moderator assigned to the forum you wish to use, or to any of the staff.

Please read: Statement of Faith (SOF)
https://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?pages/statement-of-faith/


For StoveBolts: Do you want a link to the mentioned Forums?
 
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wondering said:
Here is Draft 4.2
Dec 12

Anyone can comment or make suggestions....


Draft 4.2
Section Two
Apache Ariel 11
Dec 12



TERMS OF SERVICE
TOS​

DISCUSSION OF SUBJECTS

2.0 Some subjects are limited or banned.

BANNED

2.1 Foul language and explicit sexual material.

2.2 Violent material, unless it relates to a news article.

2.3 Promoting sinful behavior, homosexuality, sex outside of marriage, etc.

2.4 Promoting other faiths other than biblical and historical Christianity. This includes images, links, messages or photos, Ask the Atheist/Agnostic threads promoting non Christian faiths such as:
Agnosticism, atheism, dual seed or two-seedline doctrine, full preterism, serpent seed, universal reconciliation, universal salvation, J.W., Mormonism, and idealogies from the Book of Enoch and the Gospel of Thomas, etc. (alphabetical order for easy listing of
more if needed)

2.5 Posting verses from the The New World Translation (JW) or Book of Mormon.

2.6 Discussing conspiracy theories or any other hostile topics.

2.7 Distorting or maligning Paul's writings or those of any other author of the Bible.

2.8 Attacking, discrediting, or mocking Christianity, or its basic tenets, including links to anti-Christian websites.


LIMITED

2.9 Discussing homosexuality, or LGBT, is allowed only in Christian Talk and Advice and in the Bible Study Forum, and only for the purpose of providing support for those needing biblical clarification, advice, or prayer on how to be healed and free of this lifestyle/struggle. ??

2.10 Discussing religions other than biblical and historical Christianity is allowed in the 1 on1 Debate Forum. Should there be a forum for “other religions”??

2.11 Discussing questionable sources, documents, writings, etc. is allowed as long as it is not used as a basis of support within a discussion or debate. Do you want to make a list??

2.12 Discussion of Catholic Doctrine will be allowed in End Times Forum to discuss Catholic doctrine on end time beliefs, and in the 1 on 1 Debate Forum. Create a
separate Catholic forum?

If you are not sure about a site or its content, please direct your questions to a moderator assigned to the forum you wish to use, or to any of the staff.

Please read: Statement of Faith (SOF)
https://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?pages/statement-of-faith/


For StoveBolts: Do you want a link to the mentioned Forums?
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Get rid of 2:10

2:11 Eliminate the word debate... We are not a debate forum.

We need to talk about 2:12. I don't like it as it currently is.
Maybe we just remove it all together for now.
 
wondering said:
Yes,,, I agree with you that creating different forums might be a bit too much right now.

I believe that StoveBolts is not saying that there should be a catholic forum and they can ONLY post on there....it's just so that others can also join in, but a sticky could say that they cannot ATTACK catholics on those threads.

I find there are too many attacks on persons that had nothing to do with the inquisition, etc., and are just trying to be Christian.

The special forum for Catholics is not a done deal and the mods and Stovebolts will still consider it...

You bring up good points...
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I think the rule should not just single out Catholics so it should be that we cannot attack anyone.
 
Is there a need to declare certain topics limited? If we're going to be a site that promotes unity and not debating, then any topic should be open to discussion, right?
 
StoveBolts said:
Get rid of 2:10

2:11 Eliminate the word debate... We are not a debate forum.

We need to talk about 2:12. I don't like it as it currently is.
Maybe we just remove it all together for now.
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2.12 should be covered by respect to other members.
I'll eliminate all of 2.12...however, I do think it should be decided NOW as to what to do...why wait?
Maybe it could be added that discussion of Catholicism is allowed but respect must be shown at all times??
 
WIP said:
Is there a need to declare certain topics limited? If we're going to be a site that promotes unity and not debating, then any topic should be open to discussion, right?
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And wondering , Truthfrees
Originally, I was kinda thinking the same thing as Bob...

Here is a big what if...

What if we eliminated section 2 entirely and leaned heavily on section 1 and our statement of faith?

I know... Kinda scary.... Can we ponder that?
 
StoveBolts said:
Actually, there isn't much in this entire section where I like the wording. It's all geared at past arguments where conversations had to get shut down because the conversations got out of control.

Catholic doctrines should be allowed, but not for the purpose of debate or creating division.

Doctrines and theologies where heretical sources such as the book of Mormon, Gospel of Thomas, Enoch etc are the backbone of said theologies, those should remain. There has to be a way of rewording these.
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StoveBolts said:
And wondering , Truthfrees
Originally, I was kinda thinking the same thing as Bob...

Here is a big what if...

What if we eliminated section 2 entirely and leaned heavily on section 1 and our statement of faith?

I know... Kinda scary.... Can we ponder that?
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i agree - makes sense to me

the shorter the tos is the better

and the more positive the tos is the better

section 2 is kind of all negative stuff - the dont's rather than the do's

imo we could drop it altogether
 
StoveBolts said:
Do you think we should create a new forum for the topic with the statement it is for the purpose of uniting the body? In other words, no Catholic bashing and no proselytizing.
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Not sure about stating that purpose,i.e. "uniting the body." without more clarification unless you stress it is for information and understanding purposes. Some could easily misunderstand and back off of asking questions. Unity isn't just there and has to be built by understanding, knowledge, and education, if that makes any sense. ??? Tiny steps. Mainly it is important that kindness and charity prevail without condemnation or condescension. Not sure how you would word it...
 
Truthfrees said:
imo we could drop it altogether
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Im thinking out loud here... with a cold. It's risky... How would we deal with a group of members promoting serpent seed theology or promoting the book of Mormon? Do we weave those into the sof? How would we say some early writings are ok and others are not?
 
StoveBolts said:
And wondering , Truthfrees
Originally, I was kinda thinking the same thing as Bob...

Here is a big what if...

What if we eliminated section 2 entirely and leaned heavily on section 1 and our statement of faith?

I know... Kinda scary.... Can we ponder that?
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Yeah, kinda scary!
However, I have considered this already.

In a way I feel that if everyone would just be NICE, it would be OK. I agree with this but need to think about it a minute.
Something should be said in that opening page, maybe.
Maybe it already says enough.

Have company...I need some time. But it's not a bad idea.
I always thought that Christian forums would be full Christianly type persons --- I've discovered that it's not like this....
 
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