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Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch

Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics' started by Justice, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. Justice

    Justice Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch

    The Bureau of Land Management, whose Director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.

    Corrupt Democratic Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) working with the Chinese gov’t to take land from hard-working Americans.

    Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.”

    “Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,” the document states.
    Another BLM report entitled Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone (BLM Technical Note 444) reveals that Bundy’s land in question is within the “Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area” which is part of a broad U.S. Department of Energy program for “Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States” on land “managed” by BLM.

    “In 2012, the BLM and the U.S. Department of Energy published the Final Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States,” the report reads. “The Final Solar Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement assessed the impact of utility-scale solar energy development on public lands in the six southwestern states of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and Utah.”

    “The Approved Resource Management Plan Amendments/Record of Decision (ROD) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States implemented a comprehensive solar energy program for public lands in those states and incorporated land use allocations and programmatic and SEZ-specific design features into land use plans in the six-state study area.”
    In 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid’s son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada.

    And journalist Marcus Stern with Reuters also reported that Sen. Reid was heavily involved in the deal as well.

    “[Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solarfarm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert,” he wrote. “Reid has been one of the project’s most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada.”

    “His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.”

    Although these reports are in plain view, the mainstream media has so far ignored this link.
    The BLM’s official reason for encircling the Bundy family with sniper teams and helicopters was to protect the endangered desert tortoise, which the agency has previously been killing in mass due to “budget constraints.”

    “A tortoise isn’t the reason why BLM is harassing a 67 year-old rancher; they want his land,” journalist Dana Loesch wrote. “The tortoise wasn’t of concern when [U.S. Senator] Harry Reid worked with BLM to literally change the boundaries of the tortoise’s habitat to accommodate the development of his top donor, Harvey Whittemore.”

    “Reid is accused of using the new BLM chief as a puppet to control Nevada land (already over 84% of which is owned by the federal government) and pay back special interests,” she added. “BLM has proven that they’ve a situational concern for the desert tortoise as they’ve had no problem waiving their rules concerning wind or solar power development. Clearly these developments have vastly affected a tortoise habitat more than a century-old, quasi-

    homesteading grazing area.”

    “If only Clive Bundy were a big Reid donor.”

    http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/media...y_lake_sez.Par.3790.File.dat/FAQs Oct2012.pdf
    Harry Reid's Son Representing Chinese Solar Panel Plant in $5 Billion Nevada Deal

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...se-Solar-Panel-Plant-In-5-Billion-Nevada-Deal
  2. Justice

    Justice Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    Concern over the tortoise but kill birds??? Their concern is all about the money!

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/11/death-calif-solar-farms-71-species-bird-found-enti/

    solar farms: 71 species of birds killed, ‘entire food chains’ disrupted

    A new report by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service finds that solar facilities in California are acting like “mega traps” that kill and injure birds. As a result, “entire food chains” are being disrupted.

    USFWS’s National Fish and Wildlife Forensics Laboratory studied three solar farms in Southern California: Desert Sunlight, Genesis Solar and Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System (ISEGS). Two-hundred and thirty-three different birds from 71 species were found over the course of a two-year study.

    The three main causes of death were:

    1. Solar flux: Exposure to temperatures over 800 degrees F.

    2. Impact (or blunt force) trauma: The birds’ wings are rendered inoperable while flying, causing them to crash into the ground. Birds that do not die are often injured badly enough to make them vulnerable to predators.

    3. Predators: When a bird’s wings are singed and it can not fly, it loses its primary means of defense against animals like foxes and coyotes.

    Hummingbirds, swifts, swallows, doves, hawks, finches, warblers and owls were just some dead birds found at the solar facilities’ “equal opportunity” mortality hazards.

    In one instance, lab staff observed a “falcon-type bird with a plume of smoke arising from the tail as it passed through [a] flux field.”

    The study found that besides the intense heat, birds may be mistaking large solar panels for bodies of water. The injured birds then attract insects and other predators to the area. They, too, are then vulnerable to injury or death.

    In one instance, researchers found “hundreds upon hundreds” of butterfly carcasses (including Monarchs). The insects were attracted to the light from the solar farms, which in turn attracted birds and perpetuated a cycle of death and injury.

    One of the recommendations of the study, which stated that the number of deaths was likely underrepresented, was to retrofit solar panels to discourage birds and insects from congregating in the area.


    California’s KCET, a public television station, reported the findings of the USFWS’s report may affect the state’s decision to proceed with the Palen Solar Electric Generating System, “a much larger version of Ivanpah proposed for the Chuckwalla Valley in Riverside County.”
  3. jasonc

    jasonc Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    once again green isn't so green. but what is worse is how they are going about that. eminent domain can be abused and in this case it most surely is. while that rancher does own the land. he can be reimbursed for the land.however, im sure that he doesn't want that. and if that is the case of that why are they using guns to force him off?
  4. Mike S

    Mike S
    Staff Member Moderator

    Christian:
    Yes
    Hey, what fun would it be for a senator if he couldn't become a millionaire through corrupt deals? Isn't that why liberals become politicians? Well, that and controlling everyone else's life, of course.

    It's great to not be one of the serfs.

  5. SeekHisFace

    SeekHisFace Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    I would like to add a couple more links on this story for this thread.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044670_BLM_lies_fracking_leases_Bundy_ranch.html#ixzz2yXHQyDbn

    http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/04/13/the-bundy-affair-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-to-whats-coming/

    Also. I'm remembering when Hilary Clinton visited China--the spring of '09, made a deal/contract--whatever it's called--that if we default that China would have eminent domain. So, that just adds into the mix. Oh---also, I believe that there is a road that is suppose to run through there connecting Mexico and Canada with the U.S.
    And stories are that there is oil under there as well....
  6. jasonc

    jasonc Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    we already have roads that connect that. I believe I-5 does that.
  7. Barbarian

    Barbarian Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    It's not his land. It's ours. He just helped himself to it so he could have more cattle than he could otherwise afford to feed.

    He was trespassing on land not his own.
  8. jasonc

    jasonc Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    the man doesn't belive that the feds have right to that land. in the constution the states have control once they have land. that is why he refused to pay it. or else why have any state. its all belongs to the feds. that is his point.nevada when it became a state was no longer under federal control.frankly, I agree.
    a man wants to make money and feed himself others with cows and trespasses its bad. an illegal Mexican breaks the law and if we did that to them. its not a crime to trepass our borders?.hmm no double standard there.
  9. Barbarian

    Barbarian Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    I-35 connects to Mexico at Laredo on the south end via the International Bridge, and connects to Canada, via Minnesota 61.
  10. Barbarian

    Barbarian Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    Show us that federal lands become state lands when a state is formed. If that was the case, the man could have simply purchased it from the state instead of trespassing.

    He refused to pay because he's politically connected, and thinks he's entitled to welfare.

    Taking other people's property for one's own use, is often regarded as theft. It is when a poor man does it. When a rich man does it, he pretends to be a victim and applies political pressure.

    It would be the usual. But a poor Mexican immigrant has no such power. That's how the world works.

    Infuriating, but that's why the rancher got away with it, while a poor man would go to jail.
  11. jasonc

    jasonc Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    right, uhm I know an irs agent. did you know that If were not to pay my taxes for five year and owed less then a few thousand. I would see jail? but 1.3 million? right sure owe any federal agency money as I have they garnised my tax return. so the only reason they left is because they had nothing. a few armed militia men? what was the armament of the Waco nuts? more armed then that. they are still there. they didn't owe money and a crime was commited. .50 cals and so forth and the us army was sent in. why didn't they fall back and do that.? they still can.

    well gee barb, I guess texas once a republic of itself is a federal terrority, and well so is florida. shoot the county and city I work for until the 1890's were homestead by one man.the feds gave him that land. do the feds own it still? no. he didn't purchase it either

    that retired irs agent arrested several millionaires for tax fraud and evasion. but if the poor do that and he said he know of those that do that but if the costs of lawyers exceed the benefit of jailing them to get the money in assets they wont bother.
  12. Mike S

    Mike S
    Staff Member Moderator

    Christian:
    Yes
    Well, good thing a lot of "us" are taking possession of what's "ours" then. We can thank the miltias on the scene.

    Anyone who can't see what's wrong with the federal government "owning" 80% of the land in any state is a problem. Apparently he hasn't really understood what happens when governments own things in the name of the people. It's not "ours" if "we" aren't making decisions on how it's used, but rather, agenda driven bureaucrats are making the decisions. Once again, it's not the power of corporations that threaten us, it's the power of government, government by Harry Reid and the BLM.


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  13. jasonc

    jasonc Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    yes, I work for the people. the people wanted lower electric rates because the peoples owned electric grid was charging too much. the council that controls the "peoples"power grid have failed to do so and in fact done the opposite. hmmmmmmmm. but that is off topic.
  14. AirDancer

    AirDancer Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    Can't have American citizens challenging the feds on any subject.

    Too bad all those armed agents weren't stationed along the borders instead. Perhaps their presence would deter a handful or so of the illegals who do not care about the immigration laws. But then, why should they? They know the odds are in their favor that the Feds won't do anything to stop or deport them.

    This issue with the rancher had nothing to do with the desert tortoise, as has been claimed by some. It has everything to do with the federal gov over-stepping their own authority by arranging to sell land to the Chinese for a solar farm.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bundy-ranch-rory-reid-harry-reid/2014/04/13/id/565328/
  15. jasonc

    jasonc Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    that is just too fishy.hmmmmmmm, kinda like a certain vero beach land for power plant deal rumour but more substaintated.
  16. Obadiah

    Obadiah
    Staff Member Moderator

    Christian:
    Yes
    Regardless of whether Bundy had a "legal" right under current law to graze his cattle or not, the American people have been lied to once again by the federal government. Protecting the tortoises. Yeah, right. And I have a bridge to sell to the highest bidder. BUT, this time the American people stood up and said we aren't the fools you make us out to be and we aren't going to take it anymore. Unlike the liars and thieves in Washington, THIS is government OF the people, BY the people and FOR the people!
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  17. Mike S

    Mike S
    Staff Member Moderator

    Christian:
    Yes

    Which laws government bureaucrats choose to enforce and which to ignore, who they considered to be an enemy and who they don't, tells us a lot about them.
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  18. Mike S

    Mike S
    Staff Member Moderator

    Christian:
    Yes
    Reid tells News4's Samantha Boatman his take on the so-called cattle battle in southern Las Vegas. "Well, it's not over. We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it's not over," Reid said. - http://www.mynews4.com/news/local/s...ttle-Its-not-over/nT5weKnqFkezV14I5GhESg.cspx

    No, of course not, we'll leave that to the tens of millions of illegal immigrants.

    These Democrat parodies almost write themselves.
  19. AirDancer

    AirDancer Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    Does this mean Harry's planning to take on all the other Americans who are violating the law....like certain members of the fed gov, senators, representatives et al ?

    Could there be hope????

    Hope from Harry?

    :hysterical
  20. Deborah13

    Deborah13 Member

    Christian:
    Yes
    AirDancer Would you read this and tell me what it says. I think maybe it says that the BLM has to pay the Fish and Game $824 per acre. For a permit that Fish and Game issued to the BLM?

    Desert Tortoise
    Goal:
    Mitigate unavoidable
    impacts to further sustain the
    populations of federally listed
    species so they no longer
    need protection under the
    Endangered Species Act.
    • Objective:
    Comply with the permit
    (Endangered Species Act,
    Section 7) issued to the BLM by
    the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
    for disturbance of tortoise
    habitat in the Southern Nevada
    District Office RMP area. Collect
    the Section 7 mitigation fee
    (currently $824 per acre) for use
    in supporting the recovery of the
    species.
    http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf

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