Should gays be allowed to vote?

[Veritas]

Foglight wrote:
Traditional family values is a farce. Humans are not wired for monogamy. We always have and always will screw ourselves up.

Are you a guy? Not too many girls would be impressed with that statement.

The traditional family is under attack because of lust and avarice which is in turn effecting society. It has nothing to do with gay people. They are just a minority making a lot of noise because they are being discriminated against. The more you discriminate against them the more you'll hear from them.

You are correct in saying that the traditional family is under attack because of lust and avarice. However, homosexuality does have something to do with that because homosexuality is a type of lust.

 

[peace4all]

To have an intense or obsessive desire, especially one that is sexual.

basically that is like the word Horny.

peopel can be homosexual and not be sexaholics.
heteros sexuals CAN be sexaholics.
I wish i could rememebr what book I was reading, but it was written by a minister on How women should act for their men. It had the whole cook, clean, raise the kids. ANd it also said something like "and offer herself to her husband atleast 3 times a week. even if you are unwilling, still offer yourself for your husband is the head of the household" or somethign to that effect

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

IF you want to be Gay..do so....just don't think that the Bible tells you it is alright..it condemns it and you will not get another Christian on this board to tell you any different.....you cannot be a homosexual and be a Christian.....God loves you but he hates the lifestyle you are living...if you renounce that lifestyle....and ask for forgiveness,,,God forgives you and will save you..You cannot be saved while you are still living that lifestyle.


1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Why should god hate it, he knew full well when he created the universe, in your approximation, that such lifestyles would exist. Are you suggesting that your deity was unable to create a universe that lacked the potential for such a lifestyle to exist? Or are you just going to say that "God's ways are mysterious and subtle" or perhaps "He is testing us so that only the good and pure may enter his Heaven" or some other cop out that makes the entire idea of divine omnipotence or omniscience logically inconsistent.

It isn't up to us to question God. God says He hates it by His word. End of story.

Why not? You believe your god gave you a rational mind that can see an inconsistency when there is one.

And if not, whose responsibility is it to question your god?

 

[Eve777]

And if not, whose responsibility is it to question your god?

Try a little reading here and if you want more,,,there's more in this chapter......Ask Job whose responsibility it is to question his God....he knows not to go there, he tried it once........... :-D

King James Version (KJV) Job - Chapter 38

Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,


Job 38:2 Who [is] this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?


Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.


Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.


Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?


Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;


Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?


Job 38:8 Or [who] shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, [as if] it had issued out of the womb?


Job 38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,


Job 38:10 And brake up for it my decreed [place], and set bars and doors,


Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?


Job 38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; [and] caused the dayspring to know his place;


Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?


Job 38:14 It is turned as clay [to] the seal; and they stand as a garment.


Job 38:15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.


Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?


Job 38:17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?


Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.


Job 38:19 Where [is] the way [where] light dwelleth? and [as for] darkness, where [is] the place thereof,


Job 38:20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths [to] the house thereof?


Job 38:21 Knowest thou [it], because thou wast then born? or [because] the number of thy days [is] great?


Job 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,


Job 38:23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?


Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, [which] scattereth the east wind upon the earth?


Job 38:25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;


Job 38:26 To cause it to rain on the earth, [where] no man [is; on] the wilderness, wherein [there is] no man;


Job 38:27 To satisfy the desolate and waste [ground]; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?


Job 38:28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?


Job 38:29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

 

[kiwimac]

According to Ezekiel these were Sodom's sins:

Eze 16:49 Truly, this was the sin of your sister Sodom: pride, a full measure of food, and the comforts of wealth in peace, were seen in her and her daughters, and she gave no help to the poor or to those in need.

Kiwimac

 

[Ryu]

Let the gays vote; if they were in the closet like they should be you would never know they were gay. The gays are not the problem the real problem is the progressive liberals. They are the real problem. When you read this thread it is not hard to pick them out.

 

[Soma-Sight]

As Christians we are to critique others or "judge" in a sense if you are in the Spirit. What do you think half the NT is? It is Paul warning and judging the people. Of course this should be done respectfully and Christlike but the sodomites must be warned and spoken to on their lifestyle.


Ezekiel 33
Ezekiel a Watchman
1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 "Son of man, speak to your countrymen and say to them: 'When I bring the sword against a land, and the people of the land choose one of their men and make him their watchman, 3 and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, 4 then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not take warning and the sword comes and takes his life, his blood will be on his own head. 5 Since he heard the sound of the trumpet but did not take warning, his blood will be on his own head. If he had taken warning, he would have saved himself. 6 But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood.'
7 "Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. 8 When I say to the wicked, 'O wicked man, you will surely die,' and you do not speak out to dissuade him from his ways, that wicked man will die for [a] his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 9 But if you do warn the wicked man to turn from his ways and he does not do so, he will die for his sin, but you will have saved yourself.

10 "Son of man, say to the house of Israel, 'This is what you are saying: "Our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live?" ' 11 Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD , I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?'

12 "Therefore, son of man, say to your countrymen, 'The righteousness of the righteous man will not save him when he disobeys, and the wickedness of the wicked man will not cause him to fall when he turns from it. The righteous man, if he sins, will not be allowed to live because of his former righteousness.' 13 If I tell the righteous man that he will surely live, but then he trusts in his righteousness and does evil, none of the righteous things he has done will be remembered; he will die for the evil he has done. 14 And if I say to the wicked man, 'You will surely die,' but he then turns away from his sin and does what is just and right- 15 if he gives back what he took in pledge for a loan, returns what he has stolen, follows the decrees that give life, and does no evil, he will surely live; he will not die. 16 None of the sins he has committed will be remembered against him. He has done what is just and right; he will surely live.

17 "Yet your countrymen say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' But it is their way that is not just. 18 If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, he will die for it. 19 And if a wicked man turns away from his wickedness and does what is just and right, he will live by doing so. 20 Yet, O house of Israel, you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' But I will judge each of you according to his own ways."

 

[peace4all]

Let the gays vote; if they were in the closet like they should be you would never know they were gay. The gays are not the problem the real problem is the progressive liberals. They are the real problem. When you read this thread it is not hard to pick them out.

who says they should be in the closet?

when you dont agree or like somethign you put it in a closet?

is that why many repubs tend to shun away from helping the poor in the usa? or doing anythign abotu polution or gun violence? stuff it in teh closet where it "belongs"

I think you belong in a closet.