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Yes. The Scandals book is all about that. The “any cause” divorce was just one chapter of about 30 as I recall.

chessman,

In 1975 in Australia, the Labor government led by Prime Minister Gough Whitlam introduced no-fault divorce. See: Gough Whitlam's no-fault divorce policy a milestone - The Australian

What has been the result?

Divorce in Australia source data

Source data for Family Facts & Figures: Divorce in Australia

Divorce rates

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In 1970 there were 12,198 divorces, i.e. 1.0 divorce rate

After the 1975 no-fault legislation, divorces sky-rocketed in 1976 to a rate of 4.6 with 63,230 divorces. In 2013 that rate was 2.1, representing 47,638 divorces.

(Note: Crude divorce rate: Number of divorces per 1,000 of estimated resident population at June for each reference year.
Sources: ABS (various years) Marriages and Divorces Australia (Catalogue No. 3310.0); ABS (various years) Divorces Australia (Catalogue No. 3307.0, 3307.0.55.001).

Another concern here is:
AIFS' [Australian Institute of Family Studies] Director, Professor Alan Hayes said that the proportion of divorces ending after twenty years had increased from 13% in 1990 to 28% in 2011 (Rate of divorce after 20 years of marriage doubles, Sunshine Coast Daily, 7th May 2013).​

Oz
 
The sin nature has been separated, not eliminated in a Christian life. This evil nature is always present in our current bodies. Victory only comes by Faith in Christ and the Cross. We must acknowledge that we need the GRACE of God to overcome the sins we repeat. The operation of the Holy Spirit is accomplished through Faith and Grace.

Every failure in a Christian life is caused by us resulting to the flesh and trying to do what needs to be done by the means of the flesh, which is guaranteed to fail. When the Believer attempts to function outside of the Cross, the situation becomes impossible. Sin and failure are the constant results, no matter how hard one may try otherwise.
 
Sanctification is not automatic. We enter into sanctification by the Believers Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ [Who He Is] and the Cross of Calvary where the victory was won [what He has done] (Hebrews 11:6). This is called the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus - Romans 8:2. This allows the Holy Spirit to baptize the Believer into the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ, so that the life of Christ is manifested through the power of the Holy Spirit in the Believers life [it is His life that brings the victory - not ours] Matthew 5:8, John 1:12, John 14:21, Romans 6:3-5, Galatians 2:20-21, 2 Corinthians 4:11

The Lord has given us everything we need regarding life and living - and we receive these great and Precious Promises THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM [what Christ did at the Cross]. 2 Peter 1:1-4

VERY - VERY IMPORTANT: The Believer must stay in His death, burial, and resurrection and are, therefore, victorious (It is Jesus Christ life that brings victory - not ours). That is the only way we are triumphant in Christ (II Cor. 2:14). And that is the only way He can work in us both to will (change our desires), and to do (give us the power of the Holy Spirit) (Phil. 2:13)

This is the only way we receive the life of Jesus Christ to manifest in our lives so that we receive all the benefits of this Resurrection life (Luke 9:23).

There are two kinds of peace with God the Father:

1. Justifying Peace - This is Peace with God, a legal standing (Romans 5:1, 8:7; Ephesians 2:14-15).

2. Sanctifying Peace - This is the Peace of God in the heart (Romans 8:6, 14:19, 15:13; Galatians 1:3; 1 Thessalonians 5:23).

The first is the result of a legal standing. The second is the result of the Work of the Holy Spirit. The first is static, never fluctuates, the second changes almost from hour to hour. The first, every Christian has, the second, every Christian may have.

Sanctifying peace allows the Holy Spirit to deliver the Believer into the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ, so that the life of Christ is manifested and lived through the Believer by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is a living sacrifice that is pleasing and acceptable to God (Matthew 5:8; John 14:21; Romans 8:2, 13; 2 Corinthians 4:11; Galatians 2:20-21).

The majority of Christians know nothing about the Cross of Christ for sanctification. Justification delivers us from the penalty of sin, while sanctification delivers us from the power of sin. The Cross of Christ is as necessary for sanctification as it is for salvation (1 Cor. 1:18).

We submit to God by the Plan He has provided, which is the Cross. We resist the Devil by strictly looking to Christ, and what He has done for us at the Cross, where Satan was totally defeated (Colossians 2:14-15).
 
Sanctification is not automatic. We enter into sanctification by the Believers Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ [Who He Is] and the Cross of Calvary where the victory was won [what He has done] (Hebrews 11:6). This is called the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus - Romans 8:2. This allows the Holy Spirit to baptize the Believer into the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ, so that the life of Christ is manifested through the power of the Holy Spirit in the Believers life [it is His life that brings the victory - not ours] Matthew 5:8, John 1:12, John 14:21, Romans 6:3-5, Galatians 2:20-21, 2 Corinthians 4:11

The Lord has given us everything we need regarding life and living - and we receive these great and Precious Promises THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM [what Christ did at the Cross]. 2 Peter 1:1-4

VERY - VERY IMPORTANT: The Believer must stay in His death, burial, and resurrection and are, therefore, victorious (It is Jesus Christ life that brings victory - not ours). That is the only way we are triumphant in Christ (II Cor. 2:14). And that is the only way He can work in us both to will (change our desires), and to do (give us the power of the Holy Spirit) (Phil. 2:13)

This is the only way we receive the life of Jesus Christ to manifest in our lives so that we receive all the benefits of this Resurrection life (Luke 9:23).

There are two kinds of peace with God the Father:

1. Justifying Peace - This is Peace with God, a legal standing (Romans 5:1, 8:7; Ephesians 2:14-15).

2. Sanctifying Peace - This is the Peace of God in the heart (Romans 8:6, 14:19, 15:13; Galatians 1:3; 1 Thessalonians 5:23).

The first is the result of a legal standing. The second is the result of the Work of the Holy Spirit. The first is static, never fluctuates, the second changes almost from hour to hour. The first, every Christian has, the second, every Christian may have.

Sanctifying peace allows the Holy Spirit to deliver the Believer into the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ, so that the life of Christ is manifested and lived through the Believer by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is a living sacrifice that is pleasing and acceptable to God (Matthew 5:8; John 14:21; Romans 8:2, 13; 2 Corinthians 4:11; Galatians 2:20-21).

The majority of Christians know nothing about the Cross of Christ for sanctification. Justification delivers us from the penalty of sin, while sanctification delivers us from the power of sin. The Cross of Christ is as necessary for sanctification as it is for salvation (1 Cor. 1:18).

We submit to God by the Plan He has provided, which is the Cross. We resist the Devil by strictly looking to Christ, and what He has done for us at the Cross, where Satan was totally defeated (Colossians 2:14-15).
Do you understand sanctification to be a walk with God that requires our cooperation, or do you believe it's totally a work of God?
 
iLOVE,

The sin nature has been separated, not eliminated in a Christian life.

I don't understand that language. What do you mean by the sin nature being 'separated' for believers? Where is it placed in the person or outside the person?

What biblical support do you give for such a position?

Victory only comes by Faith in Christ and the Cross.

Would you please put wheels on this for me? I don't know how victory over sin in my life 'comes by faith in Christ and the cross'. Do I rock along in the Christian life, thank God for the blessings by faith in Christ and the cross and HE grows my victory? Is that what you are saying?

. When the Believer attempts to function outside of the Cross,

That doesn't help me in getting rid of the old life because I don't know what you are saying. Could you please explain it in practical, down-to-earth language?

Do you have failures in living the Christian life?

Oz
 
iLOVE,


I don't understand that language. What do you mean by the sin nature being 'separated' for believers? Where is it placed in the person or outside the person?

What biblical support do you give for such a position?



Would you please put wheels on this for me? I don't know how victory over sin in my life 'comes by faith in Christ and the cross'. Do I rock along in the Christian life, thank God for the blessings by faith in Christ and the cross and HE grows my victory? Is that what you are saying?



That doesn't help me in getting rid of the old life because I don't know what you are saying. Could you please explain it in practical, down-to-earth language?

Do you have failures in living the Christian life?

Oz
No Oz,
@lLOVE follows Jimmy Swaggart and this is the language they use in that ministry.

We had spoken about this some time ago.
I know what it means,,,,but the other member should explain what they mean...

Every ministry seems to use a different language.
: (
 
iLOVE,

Sanctifying peace allows the Holy Spirit to deliver the Believer into the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ....

What does that mean?

The majority of Christians know nothing about the Cross of Christ for sanctification....

We submit to God by the Plan He has provided, which is the Cross.

You are theologising here. How does any Christian 'submit to the Cross'? That cross on Golgotha doesn't exist anymore.

Are you using 'the cross' symbolically for Jesus and submitting to Jesus' commands and the NT teachings on how to live the Christian life? Is that what you mean? If so, why don't you use 'submit to Jesus, which means ....'?

I'd encourage you to flesh out what 'submit to the Cross' means for the everyday Christian.

Oz
 
No Oz,
@lLOVE follows Jimmy Swaggart and this is the language they use in that ministry.

We had spoken about this some time ago.
I know what it means,,,,but the other member should explain what they mean...

Every ministry seems to use a different language.
: (

Thanks, wondering, for that connection.

I await an explanation.

I found too much abstract theology in what was written.

Oz
 
Thanks, wondering, for that connection.

I await an explanation.

I found too much abstract theology in what was written.

Oz
I've always liked the Swaggart ministry.
But they speak a lot about "the cross".
I also look forward to how it's explained,,,then I'll give mine. It has a lot to do with the New Covenant.
 
I've always liked the Swaggart ministry.
But they speak a lot about "the cross".
I also look forward to how it's explained,,,then I'll give mine. It has a lot to do with the New Covenant.

wondering,

I enjoy his country piano and vocal but greatly dislike the reputation he gave to the Christian faith through his going to a prostitute. However, I know we all struggle with sin as believers and God forgives.

I have no problem with the language of 'the cross' so long as it means something similar to the hymn:

The old rugged cross

On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross
The emblem of suffering and shame
And I love that old cross where the dearest and best
For a world of lost sinners was slain

Throughout this hymn 'cross' is a metaphor/emblem for Jesus' death for lost sinners.

Oz
 
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wondering,

I enjoy his country piano and vocal but greatly dislike the reputation he gave to the Christian faith through his going to a prostitute. However, I know we all struggle with sin as believers and God forgives.

I have no problem with the language of 'the cross' so long as it means something similar to the hymn:

The old rugged cross

On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross
The emblem of suffering and shame
And I love that old cross where the dearest and best
For a world of lost sinners was slain

Throughout this hymn 'cross' is a metaphor/emblem for Jesus death for lost sinners.

Oz
Yes, I agree.
He was barred from being a preacher with the A of G denomination and established his own ministry now, which is very successful.

The cross could also be what gives us power.
Like the Holy Spirit with the inception of the N.C.
A metaphor, I mean...
 
Do you understand sanctification to be a walk with God that requires our cooperation, or do you believe it's totally a work of God?
Everything we receive from the Lord, including Sanctification, is a work of Grace. Grace is simply the Goodness of God extended to undeserving people. the whole process is by Faith, as the whole process can only be by Faith.

JSM
 
iLOVE,



I don't understand that language. What do you mean by the sin nature being 'separated' for believers? Where is it placed in the person or outside the person?

What biblical support do you give for such a position?



Would you please put wheels on this for me? I don't know how victory over sin in my life 'comes by faith in Christ and the cross'. Do I rock along in the Christian life, thank God for the blessings by faith in Christ and the cross and HE grows my victory? Is that what you are saying?



That doesn't help me in getting rid of the old life because I don't know what you are saying. Could you please explain it in practical, down-to-earth language?

Do you have failures in living the Christian life?

Oz
The sin nature is a result of the Fall. When the believing sinner comes to Christ, the sin nature is made ineffective (Rom. 6:6). It will remain ineffective if the believer maintains unceasing Faith in Christ and the Cross (Rom. 6:1-14). If the believer ceases to look to Christ and the Cross, but rather makes something else the object of his faith—no matter how good the something else might be—the Holy Spirit will not function in such an atmosphere. He demands exclusively that our Faith be in Christ and the Cross (Rom. 8:1-2,11). If faith is moved to something else, the believer will find himself once again being ruled by the sin nature. That's why Paul said, "Neither yield you your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin (the sin nature): but yield yourselves unto God (which refers to God's Way, which is Christ and the Cross)" (Rom. 6:3-5, 13). Otherwise, the sin nature will rule the believer.

JSM
 
iLOVE,



What does that mean?



You are theologising here. How does any Christian 'submit to the Cross'? That cross on Golgotha doesn't exist anymore.

Are you using 'the cross' symbolically for Jesus and submitting to Jesus' commands and the NT teachings on how to live the Christian life? Is that what you mean? If so, why don't you use 'submit to Jesus, which means ....'?

I'd encourage you to flesh out what 'submit to the Cross' means for the everyday Christian.

Oz
The Believer must stay in His death, burial, and resurrection and are, therefore, victorious (It is Jesus Christ life that brings victory - not ours). That is the only way we are triumphant in Christ (2 Corinthians 2:14, 2 Corinthians 4:11; 3 John 1:2). And that is the only way He can work in us both to will (change our desires), and to do (give us the power of the Holy Spirit) (Phil. 2:13).

This is the only way we receive the life of Jesus Christ to manifest in our lives so that we receive all the benefits of this Resurrection life (Psalms 103:2, Luke 9:23).

We submit to God's plan by placing and maintaining our Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary where all victory was purchased, and by the precious, shed Blood of Jesus Christ (Rom. 6:1-14; 8:1-2, 11 1 Cor. 1:17-18, 23; 2:2; Galatians 5; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 2:13-18; Col. 2:14-15).
 
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The Believer must stay in His death, burial, and resurrection and are, therefore, victorious (It is Jesus Christ life that brings victory - not ours). That is the only way we are triumphant in Christ (2 Corinthians 2:14, 2 Corinthians 4:11; 3 John 1:2). And that is the only way He can work in us both to will (change our desires), and to do (give us the power of the Holy Spirit) (Phil. 2:13).

This is the only way we receive the life of Jesus Christ to manifest in our lives so that we receive all the benefits of this Resurrection life (Psalms 103:2, Luke 9:23).

We submit to God's plan by placing and maintaining our Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary where all victory was purchased, and by the precious, shed Blood of Jesus Christ (Rom. 6:1-14; 8:1-2, 11 1 Cor. 1:17-18, 23; 2:2; Galatians 5; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 2:13-18; Col. 2:14-15).

iLOVE,

The Believer must stay in His death, burial, and resurrection

That doesn't make sense to me. I have no idea what you are saying for my daily Christian walk. What does "stay in" mean?

When the Christian believer came to Christ for salvation, Rom 6:6 (ERV) states, 'We know that our old life was put to death on the cross with Christ. This happened so that our sinful selves would have no power over us. Then we would not be slaves to sin'.

The old life was crucified ('put to death') and the Christian is set free from being a slave to sin and is now a slave 'to what is right' (Rom 6:18 ERV).

So, when a person repents, seeks forgiveness for all their sins, instantly that Christian receives a new nature that wants to do what is right.

However, growing to be more like Jesus is a process, as is renewing the mind, as God grows our new nature through progressive sanctification. This has happened continuously through more than 50 years as a believer. Sometimes it seems like 3 steps forward and 5 steps back. Paul explained this:
In Romans 7, Paul explains the battle that rages continually in even the most spiritually mature people. He laments that he does what he doesn’t want to do and, in fact, does the evil he detests. He says that is the result of “sin living in me” (Romans 7:20). He delights in God’s law according to his “inner being,” but he sees another law at work in “the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members” (v. 23). Here is the classic example of the two entities, whatever terms they may carry. The point is that the battle is real, and it is one Christians will wage throughout their lives.

This is why believers are encouraged to put to death the deeds of the body (Romans 8:13), to put to death that which makes a Christian sin (Colossians 3:5), and to put aside other sins such as anger, wrath, malice, etc. (Colossians 3:8). All this to say that the Christian has two natures—the old and the new—but the new nature needs continual renewing (Colossians 3:10) [Does a Christian have two natures?]​

Oz
 
The Believer must stay in His death, burial, and resurrection and are, therefore, victorious (It is Jesus Christ life that brings victory - not ours). That is the only way we are triumphant in Christ (2 Corinthians 2:14, 2 Corinthians 4:11; 3 John 1:2). And that is the only way He can work in us both to will (change our desires), and to do (give us the power of the Holy Spirit) (Phil. 2:13).

This is the only way we receive the life of Jesus Christ to manifest in our lives so that we receive all the benefits of this Resurrection life (Psalms 103:2, Luke 9:23).

We submit to God's plan by placing and maintaining our Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary where all victory was purchased, and by the precious, shed Blood of Jesus Christ (Rom. 6:1-14; 8:1-2, 11 1 Cor. 1:17-18, 23; 2:2; Galatians 5; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 2:13-18; Col. 2:14-15).

iLOVE,

maintaining our Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary

Why have you included Christ AND the cross of Calvary. What's the difference in meaning? Why not only in Christ? Why add the cross of Calvary?

Oz
 
The sin nature is a result of the Fall. When the believing sinner comes to Christ, the sin nature is made ineffective (Rom. 6:6). It will remain ineffective if the believer maintains unceasing Faith in Christ and the Cross (Rom. 6:1-14). If the believer ceases to look to Christ and the Cross, but rather makes something else the object of his faith—no matter how good the something else might be—the Holy Spirit will not function in such an atmosphere. He demands exclusively that our Faith be in Christ and the Cross (Rom. 8:1-2,11). If faith is moved to something else, the believer will find himself once again being ruled by the sin nature. That's why Paul said, "Neither yield you your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin (the sin nature): but yield yourselves unto God (which refers to God's Way, which is Christ and the Cross)" (Rom. 6:3-5, 13). Otherwise, the sin nature will rule the believer.

JSM

iLOVE,

When the believing sinner comes to Christ, the sin nature is made ineffective (Rom. 6:6)

Does the sin nature still operate in the believer's life? How is the 'sin nature' made 'ineffective'?

Where is 'sin nature' mentioned in Rom 6:6?

Oz
 
Everything we receive from the Lord, including Sanctification, is a work of Grace. Grace is simply the Goodness of God extended to undeserving people. the whole process is by Faith, as the whole process can only be by Faith.

JSM
I agree. It's a work of God's grace and the Holy Spirit empowering us to follow the walk with God.

To clarify, however, I'd have to say that sanctification is our cooperation with God in order to achieve the goals He would have for us.

They would include, changing our nature to be more in tune with His, being aware of sin so that we don't sin as much, (not aware in the sense that we think about it all day long and obsess about it).

Philippians 2:13
1 Corinthians 1:2
1 Corinthians 15:58
 
iLOVE,



That doesn't make sense to me. I have no idea what you are saying for my daily Christian walk. What does "stay in" mean?

When the Christian believer came to Christ for salvation, Rom 6:6 (ERV) states, 'We know that our old life was put to death on the cross with Christ. This happened so that our sinful selves would have no power over us. Then we would not be slaves to sin'.

The old life was crucified ('put to death') and the Christian is set free from being a slave to sin and is now a slave 'to what is right' (Rom 6:18 ERV).

So, when a person repents, seeks forgiveness for all their sins, instantly that Christian receives a new nature that wants to do what is right.

However, growing to be more like Jesus is a process, as is renewing the mind, as God grows our new nature through progressive sanctification. This has happened continuously through more than 50 years as a believer. Sometimes it seems like 3 steps forward and 5 steps back. Paul explained this:
In Romans 7, Paul explains the battle that rages continually in even the most spiritually mature people. He laments that he does what he doesn’t want to do and, in fact, does the evil he detests. He says that is the result of “sin living in me” (Romans 7:20). He delights in God’s law according to his “inner being,” but he sees another law at work in “the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members” (v. 23). Here is the classic example of the two entities, whatever terms they may carry. The point is that the battle is real, and it is one Christians will wage throughout their lives.​
This is why believers are encouraged to put to death the deeds of the body (Romans 8:13), to put to death that which makes a Christian sin (Colossians 3:5), and to put aside other sins such as anger, wrath, malice, etc. (Colossians 3:8). All this to say that the Christian has two natures—the old and the new—but the new nature needs continual renewing (Colossians 3:10) [Does a Christian have two natures?]​

Oz
Romans 7

15 For that which I do (the failure) I allow not (should have been translated, "I understand not"; these are not the words of an unsaved man, as some claim, but rather a Believer who is trying and failing): for what I would, that do I not (refers to the obedience he wants to render to Christ, but rather fails; why? As Paul explained, the Believer is married to Christ, but is being unfaithful to Christ by spiritually cohabiting with the Law, which frustrates the Grace of God; that means the Holy Spirit will not help such a person, which guarantees failure [Gal. 2:21]); but what I hate, that do I (refers to sin in his life hates, but finds himself unable to stop; unfortunately, due to the fact of not understanding the Cross as it refers to Sanctification, this is the plight of most modern Christians).

16 If then I do that which I would not (presents Paul doing something against his will; he doesn't want to do it, and is trying not to do it, whatever it might be, but finds himself doing it anyway), I consent unto the Law that it is good (simply means that the Law of God is working as it is supposed to work; it defines sin, portraying the fact that the sin nature will rule in man's heart if not addressed properly).

17 Now then it is no more I that do it (this has been misconstrued by many! it means, "I may be failing, but it's not what I want to do "; no true Christian wants to sin because now the Divine Nature is in his life and it is supposed to rule, not the sin nature [2 Peter 1:4]), but sin (the sin nature) that dwells in me (despite the fact that some Preachers claim the sin nature is gone from the Christian, Paul here plainly says that the sin nature is still in the Christian; however, if our Faith remains constant in the Cross, the sin nature will be dormant, causing us no problem; otherwise, it will cause great problems; while the sin nature "dwells" in us, it is not to "rule" in us).

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwells no good thing (speaks of man's own ability, or rather the lack thereof in comparison to the Holy Spirit, at least when it comes to spiritual things): for to will is present with me (Paul is speaking here of his willpower; regrettably, most modern Christians are trying to live for God by means of willpower, thinking falsely that since they have come to Christ, they are now free to say "no" to sin; that is the wrong way to look at the situation; the Believer cannot live for God by the strength of willpower; it alone is not enough; the Believer must exercise Faith in Christ, which automatically says, "no" to the things of the world); but how to perform that which is good I find not (outside of the Cross, it is impossible to find a way to do good).

JSM - The Expositor's Study Bible
 
Romans 7

19 For the good that I would I do not (if I depend on self, and not the Cross): but the evil which I would not (don't want to do), that I do (which is exactly what every Believer will do no matter how hard he tries to do otherwise, if he tries to live this outside of the Cross [Gal. 2:20-21]).

20 Now if I do that I would not (which is exactly what will happen if the Believer tries to live this life outside of God's Prescribed Order), it is no more I that do it, but sin (the sin nature) that dwells in me (this emphatically states that the Believer has a sin nature; in the original Greek Text, if it contains the definite article before the word "sin" which originally did read "the sin," it is not speaking of acts of sin, but rather the sin nature or the evil nature; the idea is not getting rid of the sin nature, which actually cannot be done, but rather controlling it, which the Apostle has told us how to do in Rom., Chapters. 6 and 8; when the Trump sounds, we will be changed and there will be no more sin nature [Rom. 8:23]).

JSM - The Expositor's Study Bible
 
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