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Colossians 3:1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
3:2 Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth.


I have a question about the Son of man, and a statement about this title of Jesus when He was incarnated.

QUESTION: Once Jesus, the Son of God was resurrected and seated at the Right Hand of His Father, was Jesus ever, accept for Revelation, referred to the "Son of man"?

STATEMENT: As I consider Colossians 3:1 & 2, I don't remember any reason for me to consider calling Jesus a Son of man after He conquered the grave and death. He is our Intercessor as our Great High Priest, and I see every reason to refer to Jesus as the Son of God.

This Scripture says....3:2 Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth....The title of Son of man, refers to the earthly ministry of the Son of God, and it's my thinking that once Jesus was seated next to His Father, it would be an insult to both of them to still connect Jesus to the earth of which He had victory over with an earthly title still.

What say Ye O honored Theologians?
 
Colossians 3:1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
3:2 Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth.


I have a question about the Son of man, and a statement about this title of Jesus when He was incarnated.

QUESTION: Once Jesus, the Son of God was resurrected and seated at the Right Hand of His Father, was Jesus ever, accept for Revelation, referred to the "Son of man"?

STATEMENT: As I consider Colossians 3:1 & 2, I don't remember any reason for me to consider calling Jesus a Son of man after He conquered the grave and death. He is our Intercessor as our Great High Priest, and I see every reason to refer to Jesus as the Son of God.

This Scripture says....3:2 Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth....The title of Son of man, refers to the earthly ministry of the Son of God, and it's my thinking that once Jesus was seated next to His Father, it would be an insult to both of them to still connect Jesus to the earth of which He had victory over with an earthly title still.

What say Ye O honored Theologians?

Dan 7:13-14 ????
13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,a coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
 
QUESTION: Once Jesus, the Son of God was resurrected and seated at the Right Hand of His Father, was Jesus ever, accept for Revelation, referred to the "Son of man"?

Stephen refers to Jesus as "Son of Man" in Acts 7:56 just before being stoned. The previous verse clarifies that he is referring to "Jesus standing at the right hand of God".
 
Dan 7:13-14 ????
13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,a coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

I agree that in the Old Covenant, there are mentions of the Son of Man, but they are prophetic looking toward Revelation and Jesus' involvement from earthly to resurrected and His return as Ruler. I'm concentrating my question and statement to New Testament (New Covenant) writings void of Revelation and or statements referring to that time period. I guess I could say, "Church references".
 
Stephen refers to Jesus as "Son of Man" in Acts 7:56 just before being stoned. The previous verse clarifies that he is referring to "Jesus standing at the right hand of God".

Act 7:55 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
Act 7:56 And he said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."
Act 7:57 But they cried out with a loud voice and stopped their ears and rushed together at him.

Stephen saw what he was used to seeing when Jesus was on the earth, Jesus as a man. You make a very good point in selecting Acts 7:56. There aren't many, that's for sure. Because of this text, I wonder if Jesus, Who is seated next to His Father, see's one of mankind in trouble, if the title Son of man might be appropriate in such a case.
 
Personally, because of where He is seated, I do not refer to Him as anything but LORD, my Lord and God. He is seated next to Father God and though He came in the form of man to be called the Son of Man, He retains the body of the man he became, He is God and I cannot call by what is passed.
 
Jesus said :When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

He also said when the Son of Man returns will he find any faith.

Either all is fulfilled and the last day has ended and Jesus has returned, or the Son of Man will return.
 
And Jesus said, "I am; and you shall see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."

Jesus said :When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

Jesus said: But from now on THE SON OF MAN WILL BE SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND of the power OF GOD."

Steven said: "Behold, I see the heavens opened up and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."
 
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QUESTION: Once Jesus, the Son of God was resurrected and seated at the Right Hand of His Father, was Jesus ever, accept for Revelation, referred to the "Son of man"?
That is the term He regularly used to refer to Himself.
Mat 8:20
Mat 9:610:23
Mat 11:19
Mat 12:8
Mat 12:32
Mat 12:40
Mat 12:40
Mat 13:37
Mat 13:41
Mat 16:13
Mat 16:27
Mat 16:28
And many more
 
I don't remember any reason for me to consider calling Jesus a Son of man after He conquered the grave and death. He is our Intercessor as our Great High Priest, and I see every reason to refer to Jesus as the Son of God.

I equally see him as Son of Man and Son of God. That is what I find as the biggest earthly miracle ever. He showed up in the flesh. This is why I personally wanted to talk about both these aspects of him in my thread (Son of God/Son of Man).
 
Hey Pete, you may be new here, but you came up with a verse that I had forgotten. I want to thank you very much :hug because after reading the context, my mind exploded with a mountain of possibilities.

All my Scriptures are from the ESV. (English Standard Version)

Here's something interesting. Pete really got me thinking about Acts 7:56 and verses before that. Lets look at the whole context....
Acts 7:51 "You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you.
7:52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered,
7:53 you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it."
7:54 Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him.
7:55 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
7:56 And he said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."
7:57 But they cried out with a loud voice and stopped their ears and rushed together at him.
7:58 Then they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul.
7:59 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."
7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them." And when he had said this, he fell asleep.


Starting out, look at....Acts 7:51 "You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you." WOW!! Talk about giving them both barrels. Stephen is on a roll now, he's really going to stir the pot with this....
7:52 " Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered".

Murdered? That was more than they could take....7:54 Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him....Quite a few theologians differ in their interpretations of "They ground their teeth at him" ESV...."they gnashed on him with their teeth" KJV....Some say that "The Counsel" stood at a distance and in an ugly manner, growled and ground their teeth at Stephen, while others, as the KJV states, actually started biting and grinding his flesh with their teeth.

Verse 55 says that Stephen was "full of the Holy Spirit" which, IMO, the Holy inspired Stephen to preach the words from Verse 1 to verse 53. Those words were the Truth. The Sanhedrin, Scribes, Pharisees, and the High Priest were all convicted of what Stephen preached that day. Instead of falling to their knees in confession and repentance, they refused the Truth by the Holy Spirit of Jehovah thru His spokesman Stephen. That's classical of Israel's leaders!

Please look again at verse 55. "But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God." After being faithful in preaching the message of the Holy Spirit, Stephen was allowed to see something that only he was allowed to see because of his boldness in the face of certain death by the "Counsel".

Stephen saw Jesus STANDING!! For us, a standing ovation & applause for an artist means a great deal, but when the King of Kings, Who is seated on His throne next to His Father, for the first time, rises from His throne to honor this servant Stephen who is about to die by stoning, a very cruel death, this honor of Jesus is the highest form of salutation that is God given. It's the "Medal of Honor" from the Throne of His Majesty God Almighty.

You've got to know that Stephen certainly had the mind of Christ by his last statement/prayer. Act 7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them." And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Just my thoughts folks.
 
Hey Pete, you may be new here, but you came up with a verse that I had forgotten. I want to thank you very much :hug because after reading the context, my mind exploded with a mountain of possibilities.

All my Scriptures are from the ESV. (English Standard Version)

Here's something interesting. Pete really got me thinking about Acts 7:56 and verses before that. Lets look at the whole context....
Acts 7:51 "You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you.
7:52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered,
7:53 you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it."
7:54 Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him.
7:55 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
7:56 And he said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."
7:57 But they cried out with a loud voice and stopped their ears and rushed together at him.
7:58 Then they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul.
7:59 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."
7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them." And when he had said this, he fell asleep.


Starting out, look at....Acts 7:51 "You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you." WOW!! Talk about giving them both barrels. Stephen is on a roll now, he's really going to stir the pot with this....
7:52 " Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered".

Murdered? That was more than they could take....7:54 Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him....Quite a few theologians differ in their interpretations of "They ground their teeth at him" ESV...."they gnashed on him with their teeth" KJV....Some say that "The Counsel" stood at a distance and in an ugly manner, growled and ground their teeth at Stephen, while others, as the KJV states, actually started biting and grinding his flesh with their teeth.

Verse 55 says that Stephen was "full of the Holy Spirit" which, IMO, the Holy inspired Stephen to preach the words from Verse 1 to verse 53. Those words were the Truth. The Sanhedrin, Scribes, Pharisees, and the High Priest were all convicted of what Stephen preached that day. Instead of falling to their knees in confession and repentance, they refused the Truth by the Holy Spirit of Jehovah thru His spokesman Stephen. That's classical of Israel's leaders!

Please look again at verse 55. "But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God." After being faithful in preaching the message of the Holy Spirit, Stephen was allowed to see something that only he was allowed to see because of his boldness in the face of certain death by the "Counsel".

Stephen saw Jesus STANDING!! For us, a standing ovation & applause for an artist means a great deal, but when the King of Kings, Who is seated on His throne next to His Father, for the first time, rises from His throne to honor this servant Stephen who is about to die by stoning, a very cruel death, this honor of Jesus is the highest form of salutation that is God given. It's the "Medal of Honor" from the Throne of His Majesty God Almighty.

You've got to know that Stephen certainly had the mind of Christ by his last statement/prayer. Act 7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them." And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Just my thoughts folks.
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Hebrews 2:5-18

It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking. But there is a place where someone has testified:
"What is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him? You made him a little lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor and put everything under his feet." In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him. But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.
In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering. Both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers.
He says, "I will declare your name to my brothers; in the presence of the congregation I will sing your praises."
And again, "I will put my trust in him."
And again he says, "Here am I, and the children of God has given me."
Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death - that is, the devil - and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants. For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

I like these verses that express the Son of man part of Christ, especially the underlined suffering parts.
 
I equally see him as Son of Man and Son of God. That is what I find as the biggest earthly miracle ever. He showed up in the flesh. This is why I personally wanted to talk about both these aspects of him in my thread (Son of God/Son of Man).

I understand your interest in both Names dear peaceful Sister. I'm presently studying the "passion of Jesus" From the time He left the Upper Room and communion with His Disciples, to and including His death on the cross.

Something interesting happened to me on the 18th of this month. I was studying a sermon by George H. Morrison. It seemed to me that the Holy Spirit came on me, as I was reading about the suffering of our Savior, and Simon, who had to carry Jesus' cross. The devotion/sermon is quite long, so please excuse me for submitting it. I hope you can sense what I felt thru the tears that I shed as I studied about our Savior's agony and suffering so I could be forgiven and be born again. O praise Jesus' Holy Name....


The Blessing of the Unexpected
"And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross— Mar_15:21
His Physical Weakness Speaks of His Humanity
I want you, please, to note the words that are employed in Mar_15:20-22. In this, the greatest hour of history, every word is of supreme significance; thus we read in Mar_15:20, "They led him out to crucify him." And then we read in the Mar_15:22, "They bring him unto Golgotha." These two words are just a little window on to the supreme physical exhaustion of the Savior in this the greatest hour of His agony. You see, when He left the Praetorian they were leading Him; when they came to Golgotha they were bearing Him. He had started walking; He had stumbled; He had needed the support of these strong hands, and I think nothing could more eloquently speak to us of the full true humanity of Christ than just the awful physical weakness of that hour. For fifteen hours, since the hour of the Last Supper, our Lord had suffered the most awful strain, strain of body, agony of mind. "My soul is sorrowful, even unto death." Now, He was so utterly forspent that He staggered and stumbled in the way. "He was a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief." All this, my brother, He bore for you and me when He might have had hosts of angels at His bidding. Here, as at the outset of His mission, He refused to turn stones into bread, refused to avail Himself of anything that might break the bond between Him and us when He was dying in our room and stead.
The Romans and Jews Were Not Anxious to Alleviate Jesus But to Keep Time
It was the custom of these Roman soldiers to make the criminal carry his own cross, but in this instance that was quite impossible. What were they to do? No Roman would have touched the horrid thing—Roman shoulders were not meant for that. To have made a home-born Jew bear it would have been to court uproar; and just then, coming down the way that probably led from the uplands about Bethany, they saw the very person that they wanted. Others were travelling in companies, this man was travelling alone. His dark skin showed that he was a foreigner; his costume showed he was an African; he was a stranger who had no kith or kin, he was far from home, probably friendless. This was the very person that they wanted. I don't suppose these soldiers pitied Christ; half an hour before they had been mocking Him; they were irritated at the loss of time, things were not going according to their program, and they cried, "You, you, Cyrene come here!" (He was known afterwards as Simeon Niger.) And him they compelled to bear the cross. This Gospel is very rich in vivid touches; is there a touch so vivid as this one?—the sinking Savior, the irritated soldiers, the dark-skinned foreigner coming from the country, and over everything the blue heaven, and the birds singing as they used to sing when Jesus was a happy boy at home.
A Man Can Serve Christ Although He May Be Ignorant as to Who He Is
I want for a little while just to try and show you some of the teaching of that story, and in the first place, will you notice how a man can serve Christ though he is utterly ignorant who He is. I don't imagine for a single moment that Simon had ever seen the Lord before. Possibly, and indeed probably, he had never even heard His name, for the Lord's name had not penetrated Africa, and it was in Africa Simon had his home. Probably he had just arrived the other day. Then, you observe, he was coming from the country; that means he had his lodging in the country. At Passover the city was so full that many had to get lodgings in the country, and therefore that morning, coming to the city, he had no idea who the prisoner was— he was doing something for somebody he did not know. The strange thing is that he was called to serve somebody whom he had never heard of; called to help in a great hour which was going to change the future of the world; called not to a little service, but to a great service, so splendid and unique that any of Jesus' disciples might have envied him. Mary broke the spikenard on His head; Martha made Him a supper in the evening; Joseph served by giving Him a grave, Lazarus by giving Him a cottage; but all these services, however beautiful, are not to be matched with this of Simon when he relieved the Lord of the burden of His cross. To him and to him alone was it given to help our Savior in His deepest need, to him to relieve Him of His cross when all the others forsook Him and fled. And how profoundly significant it is that this service, such a glorious service, was rendered to the Christ he did not know. And then one thinks of the parable of Jesus about the Last Judgment of the world: "Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom that is prepared for you; for I was hungry and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink," and then the blessed are going to say in frank astonishment, "Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or thirsty?" You see, evidently in the mind of Christ thousands are serving Him who never knew Him— in little actions, in the kindly loving deeds, in the little offices of courtesy and love; and what is to hinder us widening out that thought to the great services of men written in the history of the world? The men who built these highways across continents— they were serving Christ although they never knew it; the men who constructed railways across Africa— they were serving Christ although they never knew it; the man who invented printing, though he may never have thought about the Lord, he too has been a magnificent evangelist. So was it with Simon; he knew nothing of the prisoner, he had not the least idea whom he served when he carried the cross up the hill, but he was serving the Lord Christ, he was helping on the coming of His kingdom. He has got his reward.

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The Unexpectedness of Life
And then, another thought embodied in our story is just the unexpectedness of life. This was the great hour in Simon's history, and it just came to him like a bolt out of the blue. You have got to picture him that beautiful spring morning leaving the cottage where he had had his bed, crossing the fields brilliant with anemones, going up the pathway to the city, meditating on the goodness of the Lord in bringing him to the city of his dreams and allowing him to see the holy place. He had come there to celebrate the Passover, and that done, he was going home again to his wife and his two boys in Africa who had been praying for him every day; and just then, dreaming his own dreams and meditating upon the God of Jacob, he was gripped and brought into the presence of the Lord. And one feels how it would come to him all in a moment that he was present at the greatest hour of history, the hour for which the world had been waiting, the hour that the Psalmist had foreseen, the hour that the prophets had foretold, and it just came to him without any sound of trumpets. Simon dreaming his own dreams, his greatest hour met him by the way. And I scarcely need to tell you how true that is of life. Have not we a proverb in almost every language that it is the unexpected thing that happens? Joseph came out to see how his brothers fare, and Joseph is never going to see his home again. David in the morning is king, and when night falls he is flying from his son. Matthew is sitting at the receipt of custom; somebody speaks to him and calls him, and the future is never to be the same again. How often our sorrows take us unexpectedly! How often our joys take us unexpectedly! How often the things we have looked for never come, the things that we never looked for have arrived: all of which should teach us not that life is chance, but that our highest wisdom is to trust Him when we know not what an hour may bring forth. How often Jesus meets us unexpectedly when our thoughts are busy upon something else! And I beg of you never to forget that that is how the Lord is going to come, in an hour when you never think of it. If you and I were in the hands of fate, life's unexpectedness would be its tragedy; but we are not, thank God, in the hands of fate. We are in the hands of One who loves us and who knows us; One who sees the fall of every sparrow, in whose eternal love is no tomorrow, whose everlasting purposes embrace, as Wordsworth says:
"Whose everlasting purposes embrace all accidents, converting them to good."
"Almost by the merest chance I met the Lord." I dare say Simon spoke like that. "Had I overslept myself by half an hour I never would have stumbled on the Savior." He did not oversleep himself, because the Lord God is merciful and gracious and loved him from the foundation of the world.
We Are Blessed by the Things We Are Compelled to Do
Then the last lesson which I want to touch on is this, how men are blessed by the things they are compelled to. As the years went by and Simon's hair grew white, I am perfectly certain he often thought of that. Will you please observe he was compelled; his wishes were not consulted in the matter. Very probably he was rebellious; this was degrading to an honest Jew, and then, was not he due in the Temple at that hour, and was not this interfering with his plans? But it was no use struggling; he was one, the might of Imperial Rome legion; better to yield to the inevitable, although he did it with a curse within his heart. And the beautiful thing is that just that bitter task to which he was compelled proved the glory of his life. There is no question that he became a Christian. Alexander and Rufus were members of the Church. Mark talks as if everybody knew them; they were familiar figures in the Church at Rome, and all the blessing and the altered home, and the new deepened spiritual relationships came from something to which he was compelled. If he had had his way that morning, if nobody had interfered with him, if he had been allowed to do just as he pleased, he would have gone back to Africa, and we would never have heard of him. But the bitter thing he had to do, doing it perhaps with a curse within his heart, was just what proved his blessing. There are things in your life you are compelled to do; there are things in your life you are compelled to bear. Sometimes you think that if you were only free from them life would become sunshine and music, but one of the deepest lessons of this life is that things we are compelled to are the road to character and heaven. Accept that task you have got to do; accept that burden you are compelled to bear. The wonderful thing is how often it proves the very cross of Christ; it brings you into His fellowship; it deepens your character; it steadies you; it gives you the kingdom and the patience of the Lord; it draws you into sympathy with others. Simon became quite a noble character through the bitter thing he was compelled to. Has not it been the same with you and me?"

As we look back, we see the Son of man, as we look forward, we see the Son of God. This was my main thrust in my thread's purpose.
 
Adam: Man
Seth: Appointed
Enosh: Mortal
Cainan: Sorrow
Mahalalel: The blessed God
Jared: Decending
Enoch: Teaching
Methuselan: His death shall bring
Lamech: The disparing
Noah: Comfort/Rest
 
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