Spousal Rape

[Lewis]

Lawmaker apologizes for comments on spousal rape

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/02/04/utah-sex-with-unconscious-spouse-rape/22871057/
"If an individual has sex with their wife while she is unconscious ... a prosecutor could then charge that spouse with rape, theoretically," Greene said, according to the The Salt Lake Tribune. "That makes sense in a first-date scenario, but to me, not where people have a history of years of sexual activity."

 

[Gary]

How depraved must an individual be to have sex with an unconscious person? The only difference between that and Necrophilia is that one of them is breathing.

 

[jasonc]

How depraved must an individual be to have sex with an unconscious person? The only difference between that and Necrophilia is that one of them is breathing.

consent must include this: legal age, sobriety,being awake,lol. marriage doesn't negate any of that.

 

[Lewis]

How depraved must an individual be to have sex with an unconscious person? The only difference between that and Necrophilia is that one of them is breathing.

Okay we know that is crazy , but men has been doing that for ages by getting girls drunk or giving them date rape drugs. But what I want to know is say for instance a husband has sex with his drunk sleep wife, is that rape ?

 

[Gary]

But what I want to know is say for instance a husband has sex with his drunk sleep wife, is that rape ?

It is if the wife says it is.

 

[Deborah13]

Okay we know that is crazy , but men has been doing that for ages by getting girls drunk or giving them date rape drugs. But what I want to know is say for instance a husband has sex with his drunk sleep wife, is that rape ?

If it doesn't include the husband wife relationship then an abusive husband could get around it by giving her a drug (just like in some date rapes) or by a fist in the jaw or a knock over the head.

 

[Lewis]

If it doesn't include the husband wife relationship then an abusive husband could get around it by giving her a drug (just like in some date rapes) or by a fist in the jaw or a knock over the head.

Wow you don't play around do you. If a husband has to give his own wife a drug or get her drunk to have sex that marriage is in trouble. And yes Deb some men will hit them if they don't comply and take it.

 

[Deborah13]

Wow you don't play around do you. If a husband has to give his own wife a drug or get her drunk to have sex that marriage is in trouble. And yes Deb some men will hit them if they don't comply and take it.

Some of the things that happen are not so easy to imagine, especially not by nice guys.

 

[jasonc]

Okay we know that is crazy , but men has been doing that for ages by getting girls drunk or giving them date rape drugs. But what I want to know is say for instance a husband has sex with his drunk sleep wife, is that rape ?

It is if the wife says it is.

uhm no, it is rape, the wife may not report it but she cant consent while drunk legally, though one has to prove that the defendant was trying to get her drunk to have sex. In military that is rape no matter what. and much of the rape cases are of this nature.(in the army)

 

[Lewis]

It use to be lawful all over the world for the husband to take it by force if he had to, and nothing was ever said. He would not even get locked up the cops would not do a darn thing, and this is what I know. And it was that way when I was coming up.

 

[jasonc]

It use to be lawful all over the world for the husband to take it by force if he had to, and nothing was ever said. He would not even get locked up the cops would not do a darn thing, and this is what I know. And it was that way when I was coming up.

that is why tailhook et all happened and still does. im not sure from a legal history as I don't know where to look. rape isn't new. I don't see that being the case that recently in America.

 

[Gary]

uhm no, it is rape, the wife may not report it but she cant consent while drunk legally, though one has to prove that the defendant was trying to get her drunk to have sex. In military that is rape no matter what. and much of the rape cases are of this nature.(in the army)

Okay.

 

[jasonc]

I wonder if civilian law enforcement defines rape of a male as sodomy.

 

[Pizza]

"If an individual has sex with their wife while she is unconscious ... a prosecutor could then charge that spouse with rape, theoretically," Greene said, according to The Salt Lake Tribune. "That makes sense in a first-date scenario, but to me, not where people have a history of years of sexual activity."

A reasonable statement of how unintended consequences work. This is only a news item because we have enough dull-witted (or agenda-driven) people to make it so.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Okay we know that is crazy , but men has been doing that for ages by getting girls drunk or giving them date rape drugs.

Gasp! Get out of here!

But what I want to know is say for instance a husband has sex with his drunk sleep wife, is that rape ?

If you have a normal, consensual relationship, I'd say, 'no'.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

How depraved must an individual be to have sex with an unconscious person? The only difference between that and Necrophilia is that one of them is breathing.

I agree because unconscious connotes something much more severe than just being sleepy, or sleepy drunk. If a man's wife is unconscious I would expect him to be thinking about what medical condition caused her to be unconscious, not whether or not he should have sex with her.

 

[Deborah13]

I think the question is how the bill should be written. Should it included an unconscious spouse? I think it should.

 

[Deborah13]

I agree because unconscious connotes something much more severe than just being sleepy, or sleepy drunk. If a man's wife is unconscious I would expect him to be thinking about what medical condition caused her to be unconscious, not whether or not he should have sex with her.

I agree. Or did he do something to her to cause her to be unconscious.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I agree. Or did he do something to her to cause her to be unconscious.

Which reminds me....

If my wife faints when I take my clothes off, is that a good thing, or a bad thing?

 

[Deborah13]

OH BOY!