Study finds disproportionate abuse by 'gays'

[DivineNames]

Sorry, you're wrong. Homosexuality is not at all related to pedophilia. In fact, if anything, heterosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than homosexuals.

based on?

 

[peace4all]

so, your saying that, to go to heaven, you cant sin correct?
I thought all sinners could go to heaven?

btw your definition of abomination

a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)

so that means mixed marriages are bad. all american idol contestants are going to hell. Anyone who idolizes god. anyone who eats lobster or pork, or any of the other unclean foods (that somehow became clean when someoen else said they did)

you dont understand here. All you are getting at is the fact that CHRISTIANITY doesnt support gay marriage. CHRISTIANITY isnt the only religion. the bible also says kill those who worship other gods, kill non believers, but you dont follow those. they go against gods wish, but you do nothing. Why do somethign about this!

 

[kiwimac]

Homosexuality is called "To'evah" but then, so is the mixing of threads in a garment and the eating of non-kosher food. Seems to me Paul said something about how we were free from the Law but if we insisted on it in one area we had to keep it all.

Do you?

Kiwimac

 

[bibleberean]

Homosexuality is called "To'evah" but then, so is the mixing of threads in a garment and the eating of non-kosher food. Seems to me Paul said something about how we were free from the Law but if we insisted on it in one area we had to keep it all.

Do you?

Kiwimac

Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Homosexuality is still a disgusting forbidden practice for Gentiles and Jews alike.

Fornication is as evil today as it was then.

Anyone who thinks or teaches otherwise is biblically ignorant.

 

[bibleberean]

so, your saying that, to go to heaven, you cant sin correct?
I thought all sinners could go to heaven?

btw your definition of abomination

a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)

so that means mixed marriages are bad. all american idol contestants are going to hell. Anyone who idolizes god. anyone who eats lobster or pork, or any of the other unclean foods (that somehow became clean when someoen else said they did)

you dont understand here. All you are getting at is the fact that CHRISTIANITY doesnt support gay marriage. CHRISTIANITY isnt the only religion. the bible also says kill those who worship other gods, kill non believers, but you dont follow those. they go against gods wish, but you do nothing. Why do somethign about this!

If this hard to understand rambling is directed towards me let me make something clear.

The only people Christ came to save are sinners.

Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

The only people Christ died for are sinners

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

Since the topic is about the fact that immoral homosexual perverts tend to molest children at a disproportionate rate than heterosexuals it seems only logical to discuss these things.

I never said sinners won't be in heaven. Could you please show me where I did?

 

[paisley]

The fact that a man defiles the same sex makes the act homosexual.

Nope, itdoes not. Homosexuality refers to orientaiton--the preference of sexual partners.


If someone of the same sex chooses to molest or rape another person of the same sex then their choice shows their preference. Moreover, molestation of someone of the same sex could never be defined as heterosexual because it is between 2 people of the SAME sex, which makes it HOMOsexual.

 

[bibleberean]

The fact that a man defiles the same sex makes the act homosexual.

Nope, itdoes not. Homosexuality refers to orientaiton--the preference of sexual partners.


If someone of the same sex chooses to molest or rape another person of the same sex then their choice shows their preference. Moreover, molestation of someone of the same sex could never be defined as heterosexual because it is between 2 people of the SAME sex, which makes it HOMOsexual.

Amen...

 

[stovebolts]

Simple fact is, children are being raped and abused each and every day in the FC system. Some states are worse than other states and some cases get more media attention than others. The state of our foster care system is in serious demise and often, the children being taken to foster homes are experiencing long term abuse and neglect that is easily hidden by a buracracy mired in it's own offal while guised in the pretence of saving our children.

Now, I will not say that our FC system is fully corrupt. Nor will I state that it is not needed. What I will state however is that in many, many cases, the state can cover it's crimes up through it's own campaigns.

How wicked we all become when we minimize the abuse...

 

[kiwimac]

Fact of the matter is this:

Heterosexuals abuse children far more often than Gays.

When an adult abuses a child, regardless of their respective sexes, it is pederasty NOT homosexuality.

Homosexuality like heterosexuality is a relationship between two consenting ADULTS.

BibleBerean,

I have studied the Bible for over 25 years, I have advanced doctoral degrees in Biblical Criticism, Comparative religions and theology. I really don't care what you think of me. My relationship is with God, NOT you.

Kiwimac

 

[bibleberean]

Fact of the matter is this:

Heterosexuals abuse children far more often than Gays.

When an adult abuses a child, regardless of their respective sexes, it is pederasty NOT homosexuality.

Homosexuality like heterosexuality is a relationship between two consenting ADULTS.

BibleBerean,

I have studied the Bible for over 25 years, I have advanced doctoral degrees in Biblical Criticism, Comparative religions and theology. I really don't care what you think of me. My relationship is with God, NOT you.

Kiwimac

The fact is homosexuals have sex with children and are generally more promiscuous than those who have not degenerated.

Having degrees and doctorates in theology does not necessarily make one wise.

I have nothing against you personally.

 

[moralwarrior]

Fact of the matter is this:

Heterosexuals abuse children far more often than Gays.

When an adult abuses a child, regardless of their respective sexes, it is pederasty NOT homosexuality.

Homosexuality like heterosexuality is a relationship between two consenting ADULTS.

BibleBerean,

I have studied the Bible for over 25 years, I have advanced doctoral degrees in Biblical Criticism, Comparative religions and theology. I really don't care what you think of me. My relationship is with God, NOT you.

Kiwimac

As a person with these advanced degrees, can you honestly say that the Bible doesn't speak out against homosexuality in the New Testament?

 

[DivineNames]

Fact of the matter is this:

Heterosexuals abuse children far more often than Gays.

The important question is whether children would be at greater risk of abuse if adopted by gay parents, relative to heterosexual parents.

 

[ThinkerMan]

Fact of the matter is this:

Heterosexuals abuse children far more often than Gays.

The important question is whether children would be at greater risk of abuse if adopted by gay parents, relative to heterosexual parents.

I agree, to an extent, that that is the proper way to look at it...however it is a slippery slope.

Let's say that statistically, homosexuals were more likely to abuse children, but Hispanics were MOST likely to abuse children. Should they similarly be precluded from adopting kids?

What if it happens predominately in the Pacific Northwest, but very unlikely in the south....should we force kids to move where there is a lesser statisical chance of abuse.

It could be gays, blacks, whites, christians, atheists, people with tatoos etc who are the most likely to abuse. After all, somebody has to be in first place.

 

[Ryu]

Fact of the matter is this:

Heterosexuals abuse children far more often than Gays.

When an adult abuses a child, regardless of their respective sexes, it is pederasty NOT homosexuality.

Homosexuality like heterosexuality is a relationship between two consenting ADULTS.

BibleBerean,

I have studied the Bible for over 25 years, I have advanced doctoral degrees in Biblical Criticism, Comparative religions and theology. I really don't care what you think of me. My relationship is with God, NOT you.

Kiwimac

*Edited by Mod* Knowing the bible and being obedient to God are very different.

 

[Ryu]

Fact of the matter is this:

Heterosexuals abuse children far more often than Gays.

The important question is whether children would be at greater risk of abuse if adopted by gay parents, relative to heterosexual parents.

I agree, to an extent, that that is the proper way to look at it...however it is a slippery slope.

Let's say that statistically, homosexuals were more likely to abuse children, but Hispanics were MOST likely to abuse children. Should they similarly be precluded from adopting kids?

What if it happens predominately in the Pacific Northwest, but very unlikely in the south....should we force kids to move where there is a lesser statisical chance of abuse.

It could be gays, blacks, whites, christians, atheists, people with tatoos etc who are the most likely to abuse. After all, somebody has to be in first place.

Gays should never be allowed to adopt kids. The fact of them being gay should disqualify them. Just another way for them to spread their agenda.

 

[Timz]

Thinkerman,

Do you think any behavior could be described as more or less desirable with perspective adoptive parents?


Tim

 

[ThinkerMan]

Thinkerman,

Do you think any behavior could be described as more or less desirable with perspective adoptive parents?


Tim

Certainly, but that would be dependent on the individual attributes, history, record, etc of the applicants.

To preclude someone solely because they are a member of a class is discrimination.

Of course, here is where the division is.... I would consider homosexuals a "class of people" similar to religion, race or nationality, whereas others probably would not say this, but rather classifiy them individually as morally lacking or otherwise.

 

[paisley]

"Let's say that statistically, homosexuals were more likely to abuse children, but Hispanics were MOST likely to abuse children. Should they similarly be precluded from adopting kids?"

Any group of people who are at high risk of abusing children should be excluded from being foster or adoptive parents. This seems like common sense to me especially since foster children are so vulnerable to begin with and they are exactly the type that sexual preditors like to prey upon. Of course, excluding groups based on race is wrong, but excluding groups based on behavior is common sense, and that includes sexual behavior. I would not put children in foster care with heterosexual prostitutes, heterosexual couples that were living a "swinging" lifestyle, etc. so it is not just a homosexual thing, but any perverse sexual environment is not a place for a child to be.

 

[Timz]

Thinkerman,

Thanks for thoughtful honest reply.

Of course, here is where the division is.... I would consider homosexuals a "class of people" similar to religion, race or nationality, whereas others probably would not say this, but rather classifiy them individually as morally lacking or otherwise.

-I would differentiate between choices and those things that cannot be chosen. The color of your skin is not something you can choose. Your religion or sexual practices are things you can choose.





Tim

 

[DivineNames]

"The second panel of Table 1 shifts the focus from children's gender behavior and preferences to their sexual behavior and preferences, with particular attention to thought-provoking findings from the Tasker and Golombok (1997) study, the only comparative study we know of that follows children raised in lesbian-headed families into young adulthood and hence that can explore the children's sexuality in meaningful ways. A significantly greater proportion of young adult children raised by lesbian mothers than those raised by heterosexual mothers in the Tasker and Golombok sample reported having had a homoerotic relationship (6 of the 25 young adults raised by lesbian mothers - 24 percent - compared with 0 of the 20 raised by heterosexual mothers). The young adults reared by lesbian mothers were also significantly more likely to report having thought they might experience homoerotic attraction or relationships. The difference in their openness to this possibility is striking: 64 percent (14 of 22) of the young adults raised by lesbian mothers report having considered same-sex relationships (in the past, now, or in the future), compared with only 17 percent (3 of 18) of those raised by heterosexual mothers... If these young adults raised by lesbian mothers were more open to a broad range of sexual possibilities, they were not statistically more likely to self-identify as bisexual, lesbian, or gay. To be coded as such, the respondent not only had to currently self-identify as bisexual / lesbian / gay, but also to express a commitment to that identity in the future. Tasker and Golombok (1997) employ a measure of sexual identity with no "in-between" categories for those whose identity may not yet be fully fixed or embraced. Thus, although a more nuanced measure or a longer period of observation could yield different results, Golombok and Tasker (1996) choose to situate their findings within the "overall no difference" interpretation... This reading, while technically accurate, deflects analytic attention from the rather sizable differences in sexual attitudes and behaviors that the study actually reports. The only other comparative study we found that explores intergenerational resemblance in sexual orientation is Bailey et al. (1995) on gay fathers and their adult sons. This study also provides evidence of a moderate degree of parent-to-child transmission of sexual orientation." (page 170-171)


Stacey, Judith and Biblarz, Timothy J., "(How) does the sexual orientation of parents matter?" page 159-183 in American Sociological Review, April 2001, Vol. 66, No. 2. (New York: American Sociological Association)



This was a review of 21 studies published between 1981 and 1998, the authors believe that, "researchers frequently downplay findings indicating difference regarding children's gender and sexual preferences and behavior".

In other words, gay parenting turns kids queer! Or in the case of girls raised by lesbian mothers, it at least makes them more likely to "experiment". This could be seen as evidence that gay parenting morally corrupts children. It is going to depend on your moral outlook of course.