Surrendering to God's Will

[for_his_glory]

Will is to submit or surrender to something we might not understand at the moment, but is revealed to us in time like that of submitting ourselves to the will of God and not our own. When we were a child we learned to walk by our parents holding our hand and guiding our steps so we would not fall. We kept trying to walk in spite of falling from time to time until we were walking on our own. This same submission is like our relationship with Christ that even when we stumble and fall he is always there to pick us up, dust us off and continues to love us.

Luke 14:26, 33 If any man come unto me and hate not (hate not means putting your family first before God) his father, mother, wife, children, brethren and sister yes and his own life also he cannot be my disciple. Vs. 33 so likewise whosoever he be of you that forsakes not all that he hath he cannot be my disciple.

Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

There was a time in my life that I wanted to be a Pastor and even looked into schooling for this. I knew I wanted to be a servant of God and have my own Church, but in all reality it was something that I wanted, but not what God wanted for me. If I had pursued this adventure, looking back on it now, I do not feel that there would have been very much success out of this as I was stepping out of Gods will for what he did have for me in his timing. Like Jesus in Mark 14:36 who did not want to have to go through what he did for his love for us, even he had to be in Gods perfect will in order to be used effectively by God for his purpose for all mankind.

Matthew 16:24, 25 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me let him deny himself and Take up his cross and follow me. Vs. 25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Gods’ ways are not our ways and his thoughts are not our thoughts. The carnal mind can not imagine that of the Spirit of God. God has instructed us to walk worthy of his word so we can bring honor and glory to his name.

The works of the Lord are not just teaching his word behind a pulpit, Matthew 25:35-40, the works of the Lord also include feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and not turning our backs on those that are in prison. The works of the Lord is the witness of God shared with people that do not know him and this is what it is to surrender to the will of God.

 

[LovethroughDove]

Will is to submit or surrender to something we might not understand at the moment, but is revealed to us in time like that of submitting ourselves to the will of God and not our own.

I'm glad you submitted to his will. Just as in nature, we as women are to be protected for a purpose. Meaning, notice mallard ducks. The women are camouflaged and the males are out in the open to get shot. Why is that? Who first told of the resurrection of Christ? Women. This may sound feminist, but it isn't. It's balanced nicely.

Men get to "lead" the charge 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent. It goes on to say that it wasn't Adam that was deceived but Eve. I do believe in this principle because I know it to be true. I grew up in a feminist household and I know that there is a spiritual reason we as women shouldn't be out in front leading people. Not that our purpose isn't EXTREMELY important, cause it is!

Anyways, it sounds like you already know your worth in the scheme of things. We as women should know how important we are even though the Bible has 1 Timothy 2:12 in it. That doesn't negate any importance to ourselves.

 

[for_his_glory]

I'm glad you submitted to his will. Just as in nature, we as women are to be protected for a purpose. Meaning, notice mallard ducks. The women are camouflaged and the males are out in the open to get shot. Why is that? Who first told of the resurrection of Christ? Women. This may sound feminist, but it isn't. It's balanced nicely.

Men get to "lead" the charge 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent. It goes on to say that it wasn't Adam that was deceived but Eve. I do believe in this principle because I know it to be true. I grew up in a feminist household and I know that there is a spiritual reason we as women shouldn't be out in front leading people. Not that our purpose isn't EXTREMELY important, cause it is!

Anyways, it sounds like you already know your worth in the scheme of things. We as women should know how important we are even though the Bible has 1 Timothy 2:12 in it. That doesn't negate any importance to ourselves.

Each one of us that has been Spiritually born again (man and woman) has the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, John 14:16, 17. Each one of us also has the same anointing of the Holy Spirit that we need no man teach us apart from the Holy Spirit teaching them first, John 14:16, 17: 1 John 2:27.

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law" (1 Corinthians 14:34).

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Timothy 2:11-12).

There is no law within the 613 Leviticus laws that forbids a woman from being a preacher/teacher.

In these verses, Paul cannot be addressing women who were in the ministry, but rather those in the congregation who were out of order. How do we know this? We have many such proofs, many from Paul himself. Here is a partial list of women who were all in influential positions of leadership in the early church.

Pheobe (Romans 16:1-2): This woman was a deaconess of the church in Cenchrea, who was beloved of Paul and many other Christians for the help she gave to them. She filled an important position of leadership. It would be a difficult stretch of the imagination to say that this woman fulfilled her duties without ever speaking in the church!

Priscilla (Acts 18:26): Priscilla and her husband Aquila are often mentioned with great respect by Paul. Together they were pastors of a church in Ephesus, and were responsible for teaching the full gospel to Apollos. We are informed that they both taught Apollos, and pastored the church together. In fact, Priscilla is sometimes listed ahead of Aquila when their names come up. This has led some to speculate that of the two, she was the primary teacher and her husband oversaw the ministry. At any rate, we see here a woman in a very prominent position of teaching and pastoring. (Other references to Priscilla and Aquila are Acts 18:2, 18; Romans 16:3, and I Corinthians 16:19).

Euodia and Syntyche (Philippians 4:2-3): Here we see reference to two women who were "true yoke-fellow" and who labored with Paul in the advancement of the gospel.

Junia (Romans 16:7): In this verse we see Paul sending greetings to Andronicus and Junia, his "fellow-prisoners" who are of note among the apostles. Junia is a woman's name. In some modern translations, an "s" has been added (Junias) because the translators were so sure a woman could not be an apostle, that they assumed a copyist has accidentally dropped the "s." However the proper male ending would have been "ius," not "ias." No church commentator earlier than the Middle Ages questioned that Junia was both a woman and an apostle.

Though there were other women throughout the Bible in positions of leadership, such as prophetesses, evangelists, judges, leaders, etc., the above references should be enough to establish that women were indeed a vital and normal part of church leadership. Paul expected women to speak in the church, or else why would he have given the following directive. It would have been useless to give directions for women who were speaking in the church, if they were never allowed to do so.

Here's a website you might be interested in as what the role of a woman was in Judaism.

http://www.jewfaq.org/women.htm

 

[LovethroughDove]

Am I a prophet? Maybe. Am I an Evangelist. Maybe. I'm not saying that we aren't valid. It says in scripture that a believing wife can have influence over her husband's spiritual trajectory, so in that way it's obvious we have a role. As for leading the charge in the world. No, I can't get around the scripture I posted previously. The church is a huge body and I know who has to lead it, for it to be according to scripture. If you have a woman out front, then that is unscriptural. Example: Oprah has a huge spiritual following and she doesn't think twice about what she is doing. I am strictly speaking about the church that is all around the world. I hope you know I'm not discrediting the strong women in the faith. I'm just saying we are not to be out front.

 

[for_his_glory]

Am I a prophet? Maybe. Am I an Evangelist. Maybe. I'm not saying that we aren't valid. It says in scripture that a believing wife can have influence over her husband's spiritual trajectory, so in that way it's obvious we have a role. As for leading the charge in the world. No, I can't get around the scripture I posted previously. The church is a huge body and I know who has to lead it, for it to be according to scripture. If you have a woman out front, then that is unscriptural. Example: Oprah has a huge spiritual following and she doesn't think twice about what she is doing. I am strictly speaking about the church that is all around the world. I hope you know I'm not discrediting the strong women in the faith. I'm just saying we are not to be out front.

In 1 Timothy 11-14 I read this as Paul saying these things as I have never read where Jesus said any of this nor was it ever written in the law. It was both Adam and Eve's choice to not obey God's command about eating the fruit. Notice that Adam was formed out of the dust of the ground and Eve was formed from his rib making them one as being equal.

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1:27).

"Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created" (Genesis 5:2).

It is interesting to note that God called both male and female, "Adam" in the day they were created. Adam means "man." Adam and Eve were created with God-ordained differences from each other, but together they made a full "man," or a complete picture of God Himself. There was perfection in their union. Their differences were not a source of discord or inequality, but a beautiful compliment to each other. Together, God gave them the task of overseeing His creation.

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth" (Genesis 1:28).

Notice that God gave the above commission to them both. There is no hint that there was anything but equal authority between man and woman as they existed in a sinless state. What changed things? In the next few chapters of Genesis, we find that sin entered the heart of Adam and Eve. The result was a temporary curse placed upon both man and woman, which would affect the whole earth.

This curse has affected all aspects of creation, from the ground itself (infested with weeds and thorns) to human relationships. (I say temporary, because in Christ this curse is removed, as we shall see later on).

When Eve ate the forbidden fruit and enticed Adam to sin with her, one of the consequences for women was the loss of equality with men, as men were to rule over women, instead of men and women ruling together. She would now be "ruled by her husband." However, when Jesus came as sinless Man and died as the Messiah on the cross for us, all things were restored positionally. In actuality, the restoration of man (men and women) began to take place at that very moment.