Talking back

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  1. Brock

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    Do you think it's ever justified to talk back to parents?
     
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    Talk to is more loving. They're the reason you are here and they are due that respect.Someone may not like their parents for how they went about raising them, but they owe their parents respect for letting them live.
    There are those in authority that will take advantage of that and that they're untouchable as one in authority. Talking back to a police officer for instance isn't a wise idea. While lovingly respecting that that officer, though maybe a pill at the moment I'm encountering them, is still putting their life on the line for me and everyone else. They run toward threats when everyone else screams and runs away.
    It's all in how you word your concerns about a thing. How would you like to hear someone speak to you? That's a great question before speaking to someone else. At least that's how I see it.
     
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    posted me twice.
     
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    Actually God is the reason why I'm here.


    What!?!? So I should thank my parents for not murdering me?
     
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    God didn't give birth to you. His will insured your mother did. And she became pregnant due to your father. All according to God's design.
    Remember God's command? Honor your father and mother.




    Yes. Roe V. Wade gave your mother the choice to remain pregnant or not. Everyone alive now is so because their mother was pro-choice. Choosing to give birth to the life inside her. Many more aren't here because there were women who chose not to remain pregnant. And they were able to stop being pregnant through abortion.
     
  6. LovethroughDove

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    No. Bite your tongue.

    I have a 14 year old and a 10 year old. They always says that we are disrespecting them, so they can disrespect my husband and I. Absolutely not! What they see as disrespecting them is constructive criticism and not disrespect, because we care more about them then ourselves and would never have that attitude of disrespect because we love them and want the best for them.

    Talking back is a disrespect thing and only a child can do that.
     
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    You're right God didn't give birth to me but either way he is the reason I'm here and he's the reason you're here aswell. God willed for me to be here just like he willed you to be here on this planet. So it not like he would have let my mom abort me anyway.
     
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    So the aborted one's are God's will?
    Look, I'm not telling you you have to respect your parents. You don't. You have at least one other post here condemning them to a board of strangers.
    If it is an issue of God's will, and God, you should obey his fourth commandment.
     
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    Yeah my mom says the the same thing and let me tell you she's not all that great to me. If your kids think that you're disrespecting them then maybe you need to talk to them about what hurts them due to your treatment of them. P.S I'm not assuming that you treat them wrong I'm just saying that maybe there's a possibility that you are.
     
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    I didn't say that.
     
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    I understand you. I do check myself to see if my treatment is correct in dealing with them. I realize they need to feel understood too, but they can't possibly understand being a parent. I can understand the kid part (cause I was one), but they can't understand where I'm coming from.
     
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    Either way respect is earned not something you give to people just based off of who they are to you.
     
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    Personally, I do not believe it is ever justified. There were two things I learned early on that were forbidden. First, never lie to my parents. Second, never talk back to them. They demanded these two above all others and at times they backed up their authority as needed, if you know what I mean. Until the day they died, I never did either after my toddler lessons and I had great respect and admiration for them.
     
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    I disagree to a point. I believe children have to learn what it means to respect another. When it comes to parents, they need to be taught that parents are to be respected and it is the parents' job to teach them. If done properly, the children will learn to respect the parents long before they can learn to demand it themselves. The problem I have had in both of my marriages is that my wives and I have always disagreed on this front and it created problems in both marriages leaving the children confused. Both parents must agree or at least be agreeable and respectful to each other in order to teach the children the same.
     
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    Ephesians 6:1 KJV
    Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

    In the Lord. If they are right you better obey.

    If they ask you to sin????

    eddif
     
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    Honoring your parents goes beyond just respecting them. But that doesn't mean everything they do is right. Do your best to respect and honor them anyways.

    In the mean time though, if it is hard to bare the burden of your relationship with your parents, then I suggest to find someone who can listen to you. Preferably someone who knows both you and your parents, and if you can someone who is close to your parents age or older. Aunts, uncles, grandparents, or someone from church that you can trust.

    If you can do this then you can talk to the other person about specifics of what's going on. They can give you support and hopefully give some specific direction for you.

    The rule is clear to honor and respect your parents. Pray to God and ask for help. But don't fight Him on His rule.

    Sometimes when we obey God, He shows His wisdom on a long term scale. Try to trust Him even if it doesn't make sense. Like now with your parents.
     
  17. JohnDB

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    Parents-teenage relationships are difficult for most.

    The teenager who has massive thought process not yet completely formed vx parents who are unaccustomed to the teenager growing up with more cognitive skills but yet still with "bad habits" is a recipe for arguments.

    My son used to receive a report card and view it as a point of negotiation with his teachers in high school...and successfully negotiate higher grades every time with them. And not understand why I didn't like it.

    Today when his job requirements are for "business conservative" clothing and he wants to wear something other than slacks, shirt, jacket and tie, I try to tell him that it isn't a negotiation and he doesn't believe me. He doesn't have the skills to succeed in the workplace. Sure, he works hard...but that isn't enough. It never was before and likely won't help today. And that brings out the contention.

    And that's what parents are for. But often your young and adolescent adults dismiss the wisdom that they have to offer. When parents fall off the pedestal that their Children placed them on is not a reason to discount every thing they say.
    Parents love their children and don't want to argue about everything with them. We are old and tired. They are young and ignorant of the world's mechanisms and especially don't have the logic skills needed to succeed in the areas that they wish.
    Which in part starts the arguments.

    Then add to the mix the fact that most people don't effectively communicate (especially when emotional)...and Viola...instant arguments that don't make sense.
    So....
    Talking back to parents will be counter productive to what the teenager needs and wants. But they don't have the cognitive skills to stop themselves at the same time.
    So it's all the parents fault for being human and loving their children.
     
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    So I should disrespect the president? My commanding officer, I should allow my men to talk back.i have obeyed plenty of officers,ncos I had no love for and a low opinion but they out ranked me.I refused to attend one of them retirement ceremony over how he acted partially
     
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    Not talk back in a mean way, but if you're accused of something you didn't do, then you'd do well to speak up --- but not enough to start a war.

    Here's my thought.
    YOU always be nice to your parents. They won't appreciate it right now because they, like you, are in the same forest.

    When you grow older and this conflicts finally ends (and it will) they'll be remembering how unworthy they were with you and how nicely you took it and treated them well anyway.

    Boy, that's the best revenge you'll have!!!

    Kill them with kindness!

    Sounds mean? It's actually the right thing to do.
    Do you know what it means to turn the other cheek?

    It doesn't mean to let people smack you around. Back in the era of Jesus, slapping someone was a great insult. Speaking of adults here. So Jesus said that if anyone slaps you on one cheek, give them also the other. Why? To show them that you don't care that they slapt you. To show them that you have higher morals than they do. And to show them that your master is God, and anything they do to you is of no consequence when you're friendly with the creator of the universe! This is actually more of an insult back to them, than if you slapped them back out of anger.

    Think about it.
    :thinking
     
  20. wondering

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    Hi WIP,
    Respect cannot be demanded. You either have it for a person or you don't.

    I think how I can understand what you're saying is that EVEN THOUGH a young adult doesn't respect his or her parents because of any type of mistreatment, they MUST STILL treat them with respect. You must have been a good dad and earned your respect. Not all are. And not even all mothers.
     
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