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I'm really sorry for all the pestering questions and nasty comments, underneath I really am a nice guy.

I tell you what though, you Christians are all right.
 
We're here to help you understand our Christian faith. If you have questions, we are ready to answer.
I was brought up in a Christian home, and followed the Gospel of Jesus for more than 20 years. I assure you I don't have any questions about the faith of Christianity.
 
there's a school of thought that psychiatry, amongst other things, represents a sort of religion, in and of itself. the diagnoses are made w/o blood work, brain scans, etc. a lot of it is dogma and tradition, not science-based, and the relationship between psychiatrist (or counselor, psychotherapist) and patient looks a lot like a religious relationship, between priest and penitent, for instance. Of course...that's more 60s-70s, academic, antipsychiatry. Personally, I take my prescribed psych drugs, but I try not to let the labels (currently, "Bipolar I") sink in too deep. I don't know what your problems are, but on the more severe end of the spectrum, realistically the best the psych drugs can do is balance things out enough so one stays out of a hospital, off forced treatment, etc. One one is more or less "stable" (fun word from Bipolar-land: "euthymic," which apparently means in the range of normal), then the real work starts.
 
I was brought up in a Christian home, and followed the Gospel of Jesus for more than 20 years. I assure you I don't have any questions about the faith of Christianity.

May I ask then what it is you are searching for? Could it possibly be a better understanding of being a Christian? You can ask us anything and we are here for you. and I do appreciate your OP. That is the making of a good person, but yet one that is searching.
 
May I ask then what it is you are searching for? Could it possibly be a better understanding of being a Christian? You can ask us anything and we are here for you. and I do appreciate your OP. That is the making of a good person, but yet one that is searching.
I'm not really searching for anything, maybe a normal relationship with somebody.
 
there's a school of thought that psychiatry, amongst other things, represents a sort of religion, in and of itself. the diagnoses are made w/o blood work, brain scans, etc. a lot of it is dogma and tradition, not science-based, and the relationship between psychiatrist (or counselor, psychotherapist) and patient looks a lot like a religious relationship, between priest and penitent, for instance. Of course...that's more 60s-70s, academic, antipsychiatry. Personally, I take my prescribed psych drugs, but I try not to let the labels (currently, "Bipolar I") sink in too deep. I don't know what your problems are, but on the more severe end of the spectrum, realistically the best the psych drugs can do is balance things out enough so one stays out of a hospital, off forced treatment, etc. One one is more or less "stable" (fun word from Bipolar-land: "euthymic," which apparently means in the range of normal), then the real work starts.
I'll always be sick, the only problem I have is that other people who know me must learn to accept that.
 
are you sure of that? i was electroshocked, operated on, doctors and counselors de-frauded my insurance company. later, they said I was was not actually mentally ill. i was apparently "too smart," and I was despised in the community from a young age, so they "made an example out of" me.

be careful with psychiatry. these days, I've miraculously "recovered from treatment" and I'm down to 2 psych drugs daily. even my IQ estimate is up a good bit, which is...unexpected, to say the least.

my experience has been that they make people sick and torment people. maybe not all of them, but a lot of them.
 
are you sure of that? i was electroshocked, operated on, doctors and counselors de-frauded my insurance company. later, they said I was was not actually mentally ill. i was apparently "too smart," and I was despised in the community from a young age, so they "made an example out of" me.

be careful with psychiatry. these days, I've miraculously "recovered from treatment" and I'm down to 2 psych drugs daily. even my IQ estimate is up a good bit, which is...unexpected, to say the least.

my experience has been that they make people sick and torment people. maybe not all of them, but a lot of them.
I've experienced a great deal of mistreatment by the hand's of appointed clinicians. They haven't done anything to improve my quality of life, neither are they an active component in my mental development. In my years of dealing with the mental health I've only met few doctors who actually went above and beyond.

Mostly they herd us like sheep into the injection room.
 
very true and it was something I followed and believed in along with Buddhism for a long time. Takes a while to recognize its limitations and superficiality
I don't think I have the strength to follow Jesus anymore, when I do I find that I instantly become dogmatic and judgmental. I start thinking in terms of sin nature, and uphold wishful thinking.

I have also lost the will to pray, I am offended at the concept of it. All the prayer's I sent up have never come back down, it's become such futility to keep asking Jesus for help but get no replies.
 
I'm really sorry for all the pestering questions and nasty comments, underneath I really am a nice guy.

I tell you what though, you Christians are all right.
Why are you a nice guy? What makes you be a nice guy?
Why do you think Christian are all right? I think you meant alright...
The answers are important.
 
I don't think I have the strength to follow Jesus anymore, when I do I find that I instantly become dogmatic and judgmental. I start thinking in terms of sin nature, and uphold wishful thinking.

I have also lost the will to pray, I am offended at the concept of it. All the prayer's I sent up have never come back down, it's become such futility to keep asking Jesus for help but get no replies.
Jesus is not coming down here to lend you a helping hand.
He sent the Holy Spirit for that.
There are certain rules that are followed and that make the Holy Spirit CAPABLE of helping you.

It's not like magic.
I think you might know this already and may just be disappointed...Maybe.
 
when I do I find that I instantly become dogmatic and judgmental. I start thinking in terms of sin nature, and uphold wishful thinking.
That's a great insight. Many Christians seem to lose self-awareness as they plunge headlong into a narrow tunnel of inflexible dogmatic beliefs.
I try to keep an open mind, even I am biased towards Catholic doctrine. In the end I respect people the most who try to walk the talk of trying to respect and love others. Living the Gospel.
 
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