The Hatred of God

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  1. Johan

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    The Hatred of God

    Something barely touched.

    But so necessary.

    Part of Jesus.

    Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


    And therefore part of us. When we are ready.


    So in Jesus there is a hatred. And we need to get knowledge about it to be able to grow into everything that He is.

    Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:


    We know that the first Adam did not succeed.

    And God rejected Him. And created the second Man.

    1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.


    And now God can proceed with the punishment of the old.

    Death!

    2Co 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:


    So there needs be the hatred for the first Adam.

    Luk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.


    But mostly we see the love of the self and the own family.

    So we need this power from God. Hatred!

    Then we can proceed to rinse ourselves of everthing of Adam. And accept that we are the second Man.

    And we will look at the second Man differently. We will understand the purpose of the second Man.

    He replaced the first. It is done already. We just need to see and accept. This “see” has to do with the gifts that God gave who teaches in the Power of God.

    Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

    Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

    Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:


    Then we will see the “perfect man” and through the power of the Faith of God that “perfect man” will be on earth again.
     
  2. Hermit

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    Hatred is a harsh word for something that fears the truth, which is our ego-self. It is the self which fears its truth. It fears invalidation, because itself is not true, but a fabricated story created by the mind to make sense of itself, like it does with everything else. That is why it always seeks validation ("Look what I know". "I know better". "listen to me". "Why don't you love me"....). It is a story we pay attention to and believe it is true. But it is not true, and that is what it fears. The mind fears losing its own identity. Actually, all our fears come from the ego-self.

    It is a bit counter-productive to 'hate' the ego-self, the scared and fearful. The best way to deal with our ego is to be calm, reassuring that we will be okay regardless of what is happening. This requires the practice of Faith. It requires us to use faith to hear the truth about us and how we are, and/or have been, enslaved to the fears of our ego. It requires faith to remain calm and soft (humble) to becalm the ego (pride) so we can stay in touch with the Truth.

    The person who stays in touch with the Truth becomes the 'perfect person' because they are Truth-filled (Truthful). they are honest, genuine, authentic, trustworthy, reliable, unconditional, loving, fearless, and real. All the characteristics of Truth, just like Jesus.
     
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    What if this is ones earliest memory?
     
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    I find it ironic that some people Hate a God that they don't even believe exist!
     
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    This is not the Gospel. I don't even think it's theology.
     
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    Many take Luke 14:26 out of context to mean we are to hate, but that is not what hate means here. Jesus is saying that we are to love God and give Him first place above everyone else. We die to self as Paul said, it is no longer I that lives, but Christ who lives in me, Galatians 2:20; Colossians chapter 3. The greatest commandment is to love and that love carries over to our enemies as we are to pray for them, Matthew 22:34-40. What we hate is this sinful flesh and that is why we have to crucify it, Romans chapter 6.
     
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    Tell us a bit more.
     
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    This is not about people hating but about God hating.
     
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    Amen brother.

    There is a hatred in God. For the flesh. So we need to go into this hatred which needs to be kindled in us. Then we can really take on the war against the flesh. So we need to go into some other verses now to really start hating. Because this is a characteristic of God's divine nature it needs to be created in us by the Word.

    Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
    Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
    Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
    Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
    Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

    So let us go into this and let the anointing take as into another sphere of Jesus. Where Jesus is the Word which God creates in us to be our Life.

    And then we will see another side of Jesus.

    The Lord's Day of Vengeance
    Isa 63:1 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
    Isa 63:2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
    Isa 63:3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
    Isa 63:4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
    Isa 63:5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
    Isa 63:6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.

    And the Day of the Lord will manifests in your Life.
     
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    I probably should not so people do not get distracted from the core of what you are saying. Not that what I have to say would be off topic, but it would most assuredly drag something else into the conversation.

    Bless you brother.
     
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    :agreed BTW I am a sister :)
     
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    That is very considerate. Thanks.
    But:
    I do not say that I know everything about the topic. And you said it is not off topic. If we allow the Truth to decide then I can not see why you do not post it. Remember I wrote some other threads too. They all combine now. One of them, The Kingdom of David, is to move out of the way of making our own decision and allow Jesus in that position. We should be ready now for that. And we need to humble ourselves a bit more. We need to also extend the "hatred" to our ability to rule. And give up there too.
     
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    Nope. That is just the body. But "flesh" as in married to self. And being a woman invited all the men/devils inside.

    Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    This the "evil generation" did. And all got "drunk of the wrath of her fornication. And all the kings/devils committed fornicaton with her.

    Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
    Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
    Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

    A new marriage would take place now. You can read my thread on it in The Marriage.
     
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    Thanks for correcting me. When God is ruling we should "bow before the Truth"
    But if you read my thread on The Marriage you will see that gender is not that important. We are all going to be women. Maybe a bit easier for you to make the change. But on the other hand a greater miracle from God making me one too.
     
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    Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
    Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

    So God called us out of the human race and gave us a birth into the God race. We came out. Her punishment is death. The body didn't die but self did.

    Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

    And now we need to double on her according to what she did to us. Remember back the live she lived and what you got now. That is to double inflict pain on her.

    Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

    And self said I am in charge. But that was a lie. Self is dead and the soul living under self control should have been a widow but she said I am a queen.

    Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
    Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
    Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

    So now the real marriage is ready for the grown-up. Not the children. They still have to grow. The marriage for the grown up

    Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

    is God taking her for a companion.

    God has many.

    Son 6:8 There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number.
    Son 6:9 My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.
    Son 6:10 Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?

    Everyone in his/her personal relationship with God.

    and terrible as an army with banners?

    And to her is given another Life. That of the "fight"

    See the thread on the Judge and the Rider on the white horse.

    A new dispensation is dawning.

    Up to now the world has experienced the life of the children of God. In this new dispensation they will experience the Life of the wife of God.

    This will be the dispensation of taking over government of earth by the wife of God. See "The Kingdom of David"
     
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    What is happening now?

    The army is getting ready!

    Those with the "hatred of God" will stand up.

    Joe 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
    Joe 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
    Joe 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
    Joe 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
    Joe 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

    They will no longer run from evil but attack!

    Isa 41:14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.
    Isa 41:15 Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small, and shalt make the hills as chaff.
    Isa 41:16 Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel.

    So God will teach us the Power of His Word.

    Jer 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?

    And we will see the wood.

    The Lord Proclaims Judgment
    Jer 5:14 Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

    As I said. Not for God's children. But for His wives.
     
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