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What does the Bible mean when it speaks of the holiness of God? What does it mean that God is Holy? And as an extension, what does it mean that we are to be holy?

For example, is it a concept of morality? Purity? A friend believes it simply means God is relational. Which I can't wrap my head around. It has to be perhaps the most important thing we can know about God. I believe it has to do with God's utter otherness and His transcendence. His very nature is perfect in every way. Perfection in all things emanates from His very character. He is separate from all of creation and above all things. These descriptions reveal a bit about the nature of God's holiness.

I would be interested in your thoughts including important Scripture passages and perhaps books you've found useful on the topic.
 
In this world, you can find a bit of goodness, love, compassion, hope, comfort, virtue, grace, and truth.
You have to look, and even then its only a little that you will ever discover.
The wonder is....the only reason that any of those exist, is because all of them are God's nature and, because He IS all those things regarding His entirety , and more, ... this is the only reason that they exist in our world so that we can find them.
All good that exists, exists because Good is of God, as this is His essence, and we are allowed to have access to a touch of it here.
In Eternity, we will have the full measure of the goodness of God as our own joy, as our bible tells us that the full understanding has not entered into our hearts or our minds yet, regarding just how Good it will be to live with the Father and the Son and the Saints and the host of heaven in eternity.
 
In this world, you can find a bit of goodness, love, compassion, hope, comfort, virtue, grace, and truth.
You have to look, and even then its only a little that you will ever discover.
The wonder is....the only reason that any of those exist, is because all of them are God's nature and, because He IS all those things regarding His entirety , and more, ... this is the only reason that they exist in our world so that we can find them.
All good that exists, exists because Good is of God, as this is His essence, and we are allowed to have access to a touch of it here.
In Eternity, we will have the full measure of the goodness of God as our own joy, as our bible tells us that the full understanding has not entered into our hearts or our minds yet, regarding just how Good it will be to live with the Father and the Son and the Saints and the host of heaven in eternity.
Nicely said. I love the phrase, "full measure of the goodness of God."
 
What does the Bible mean when it speaks of the holiness of God? What does it mean that God is Holy? And as an extension, what does it mean that we are to be holy?

For example, is it a concept of morality? Purity? A friend believes it simply means God is relational. Which I can't wrap my head around. It has to be perhaps the most important thing we can know about God. I believe it has to do with God's utter otherness and His transcendence. His very nature is perfect in every way. Perfection in all things emanates from His very character. He is separate from all of creation and above all things. These descriptions reveal a bit about the nature of God's holiness.

I would be interested in your thoughts including important Scripture passages and perhaps books you've found useful on the topic.
I think of a type of cleanness that cannot be attained on earth.Holy means =sacred=separate=apart=separate from human infirmity=impurity, and sin
Leviticus 19:2 You must be holy because I, the LORD your God, am holy

Ex. You must be separate from infirmity, impurity and sin. You must be sacred as the Lord your God is sacred.
 
What does the Bible mean when it speaks of the holiness of God? What does it mean that God is Holy? And as an extension, what does it mean that we are to be holy?

For example, is it a concept of morality? Purity? A friend believes it simply means God is relational. Which I can't wrap my head around. It has to be perhaps the most important thing we can know about God. I believe it has to do with God's utter otherness and His transcendence. His very nature is perfect in every way. Perfection in all things emanates from His very character. He is separate from all of creation and above all things. These descriptions reveal a bit about the nature of God's holiness.

I would be interested in your thoughts including important Scripture passages and perhaps books you've found useful on the topic.
far as i am concerned your right on track he is pure separate blameless
 
What does the Bible mean when it speaks of the holiness of God? What does it mean that God is Holy? And as an extension, what does it mean that we are to be holy?

For example, is it a concept of morality? Purity? A friend believes it simply means God is relational. Which I can't wrap my head around. It has to be perhaps the most important thing we can know about God. I believe it has to do with God's utter otherness and His transcendence. His very nature is perfect in every way. Perfection in all things emanates from His very character. He is separate from all of creation and above all things. These descriptions reveal a bit about the nature of God's holiness.

I would be interested in your thoughts including important Scripture passages and perhaps books you've found useful on the topic.
What does scripture say?
1Pe 1:13 - 16 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.” (Also see Lev 19-20)

Being holy is about how you behave. If you believe (Apostles creed, etc.) and have a "relationship with the Lord" (whatever THAT means) then ACT like you believe and are "in a relationship with the Lord" and do not "gratify the lusts of the flesh."

Gal 5:16-26: But I say, walk by the Spirit, and do not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh; for these are opposed to each other, to prevent you from doing what you would. But if you are led by the Spirit you are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us have no self-conceit, no provoking of one another, no envy of one another.


iakov the fool
 
What does scripture say?
1Pe 1:13 - 16 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.” (Also see Lev 19-20)

Being holy is about how you behave. If you believe (Apostles creed, etc.) and have a "relationship with the Lord" (whatever THAT means) then ACT like you believe and are "in a relationship with the Lord" and do not "gratify the lusts of the flesh."

Gal 5:16-26: But I say, walk by the Spirit, and do not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh; for these are opposed to each other, to prevent you from doing what you would. But if you are led by the Spirit you are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us have no self-conceit, no provoking of one another, no envy of one another.


iakov the fool

Good post. I think we'd all do well to remember we are called to holiness. Not in a legalistic way, but by the power of God's Spirit working in our lives. I know I need to remind myself of this to keep God's Word ever before me.
 
Good post. I think we'd all do well to remember we are called to holiness. Not in a legalistic way, but by the power of God's Spirit working in our lives. I know I need to remind myself of this to keep God's Word ever before me.
We are supposed to become like Christ.
Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren.


iakov the fool
 
Sorry that I started another thread in apologetics that brushes against this one. Didn't mean to step on toes, suck all the oxygen, steal your thunder...I was speaking about why we celebrate Easter.

But here's the link

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We are supposed to become like Christ.
Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren.


iakov the fool

Doesn't this post kinda sorta contradict your other post? The scriptures in your other post support what this says, but neither support what you said in your other post methinks. I'm seeing it more along the lines of...not our behavior, but our yielding to the Holy Spirit. When we yield our will to the Holy Spirit, then we are able to receive the Spirit and the things of the Spirit. Then we can walk in the Spirit.

Does that make sense Brother?
 
Doesn't this post kinda sorta contradict your other post? The scriptures in your other post support what this says, but neither support what you said in your other post methinks. I'm seeing it more along the lines of...not our behavior, but our yielding to the Holy Spirit. When we yield our will to the Holy Spirit, then we are able to receive the Spirit and the things of the Spirit. Then we can walk in the Spirit.

Does that make sense Brother?
Yielding to the Holy Spirit IS a behavior.
 
Isa 6:8 (CJB) said:
‘Yes, you hear, but you don’t understand.
You certainly see, but you don’t get the point!’

Have you heard of being a 'Man's man'?

Isaiah was a Prophet's prophet. He was the Statesman of statesmen. Comfortable while speaking before the kings of the earth, Isaiah pronounced a prophet's curse upon himself and said, "Oy vey ist mir," (O! Woe is me) after seeing the Holiness of TheKing, Adonai-Tzva’ot!

 
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First, do you know what the word "yield" means?
Is it or is it not something you do? (As in "Yield the right of way.")

Yes, I know what yield means. But it seems to me that yielding to the spirit is, a spiritual thing. Within ones heart. It takes no bodily action, but is done in the spirit.

One can yield to the Spirit while sitting in a chair. There's no "behavior" involved. To yield to the Spirit may affect ones behavior, but other than that...What?

I'm not wrapping my mind around that it is a behavior in and of itself though. See what I mean?
 
I'm not wrapping my mind around that it is a behavior in and of itself though. See what I mean?

Pardon my jumping in here, Edward, but doesn't this remind you of the whole James 2:18 conversation about Faith (Spiritual) and Works (Behavior)? There's a part there that speaks to me. The 2:20 part. Yeah. I hear that part.
 
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Yes, I know what yield means. But it seems to me that yielding to the spirit is, a spiritual thing. Within ones heart. It takes no bodily action, but is done in the spirit.

One can yield to the Spirit while sitting in a chair. There's no "behavior" involved. To yield to the Spirit may affect ones behavior, but other than that...What?

I'm not wrapping my mind around that it is a behavior in and of itself though. See what I mean?
Yielding to the spirit requires an act of will.
Refusing to submit to the demand of the flesh requires an act of will.
An act of will is not a physical act but it is still an act.
 
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