The Lord's day

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  1. dirtfarmer

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    Is correct, according to scripture, to call Sunday " The Lords day" or should it be called " the first day of the week"?
     
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    Sunday is just the first day of the week according to the Gregorian calendar that we use today. It's a day of rest.

    Genesis 2:
    1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished and all the host of them.
    2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
    3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

    Where does it say in verse 3 that God made the seventh day holy! It says God blessed the seventh day, sanctified, or set apart, the seventh day as a day of rest. The Hebrew Sabbath was instituted by God given to Moses in Exodus 16 as a day that started from Friday at sunset to Saturday at sunset as a day of remembrance or a memorial of the Exodus exile as God parted the sea bringing the Hebrews to the promised land by defeating their foes. Hebrews used a Lunar Calendar that is different from our Gregorian calendar we use today.

    The Lord's day only appears once in scripture in Rev 1:10. It gives no reference to what day of the week it was as every day is the Lord's day, but more specific refers to the Sabbath day in Mark 16:9; Acts 2:42; 20:7; 1Corinthians 16:1,2. Throughout scripture the Lord's day is usually referred to as the Sabbath being the seventh day of the week as we would know it as Saturday , Genesis 2:1-3.
     
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    hello for_his_glory, dirtfarmer here

    Sunday, according to the "Gregorian calendar", is the first day of the week.

    Does sanctify mean to set apart? Would that not be making it holy?

    The Lord's day is used in the eschatological sense in Revelation 1:10 is my belief. John was "in the Spirit", not worshipping with the Spirit. In Joel 2:31 it is stated that the "day of the Lord" is terrible: Isaiah 13:6 " Howl ye: for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the almighty." Jeremiah 46:10 " For this is the day of the Lord God of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he might avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord God of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates", also Malachi 4:6, " Behold I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord." Does this not have parallel meanings in Revelation?
     
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    I don't think it matters much to us here on earth at this point Brother. Every day is the Lord's day here. Let us rejoice and be glad in it.

    But I'll bet'cha a dolla that when we get to heaven that the Sabbath will be observed. Every 6 thousand years (relatively speaking) we'll get a thousand years off, lol. To worship God. :)
     
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    All through scripture they referred the Sabbath as Sabbath.
    The day of the Lord, Lord's day is the same thing not CONCERNING the Sabbath.
    John was in the spiritual realm on the day of the Lord, not Sabbath.
    2Peter 3:10
    But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens shall pass away....

    I believe this to be the millennium.
    As 2Peter 3:8 suggest.
    1 day is with the Lord as a 1000 years, and a 1000 years as 1day.
    Rev.20:5,6
    They shall be priests of God and of Christ, and SHALL REIGN WITH HIM a 1000 years.
     
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    Whatever you call it, you'd better get it right! We all know God is listening just to hear if you say the wrong word, so He can knock you clear into Hell with a big Holy Stick.
     
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    If I'm understanding your quotes above correctly, I agree. The Lord's Day, or the Day of the Lord is the beginning of His millennial reign. John was caught forward in spirit to that time Jesus receives His own throne in Rev 4:2 some 2000+ years future, and shown thee viewpoints according to:
    Rev 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
     
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    does each year as we know them to be really have 365,000 days ?
    or could the phrase Peter used be showing God to be 'outside' of our time thoughts?
    sorta like this
    Psa 50:10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.
    Psa_105:8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations.
    Psa_90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
     
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    Hi Reba
    I would assume years would be years, as Methuselah lived 969 years.
    But yes, I see your point.
    But the day of vengeance of our God..Isa.61:2
     
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    Correct, the day of the Lord is the millennium.
    Rev.4:2, speaking to John, John's future.
    Rev.1:7
    He cometh with clouds, and EVERY EYE shall see Him...
    Rev.1:10 he was here on earth...told him to write these things to the churches, Future.
    Warn them, thus prior to the millennium, was to write what he saw.
    Past, present and future.
    As you see here in Rev.4:1, John went up to heaven spiritually.
    You have the seals which are the knowledge of the trumps that are about to sound.
    Example:
    Rev.5:10
    Hast made us unto our God, kings and priest and we shall reign on the earth.
    Rev.11:15,18
    The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ.
    Give reward to the saints...
    Rev.20:4,5
    I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them, and saw the souls that were slain for the witness of Jesus, for the word of God, did not receive the mark, they lived and reigned with Christ a 1000 years....
    On such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of His Christ, and shall reign with Him a 1000 years.
    So by my understanding, we become priests, AFTER the tribulation.
     
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    Some do, and though all in Christ are heirs, not all are joint heirs with Christ. Rom 8:17. There are those of Rev 7:15, therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
     
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    hello dianegcook, dirtfarmer here

    I do not find that the body of believers become priests, but I do find the 144,000 sealed during the tribulation, that death will not hurt them, are the kingdom of priest that will execute the command given to the disciples in Matthew 28:18-20.

    The church is the bride of Christ, not the subjects of the earthly kingdom that is to be established. We rule with Christ as his bride, we are not subjects of the earthly kingdom.

    Revelation was written by John an apostle to the circumcision, not an apostle to the heathen(Gentile)
     
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    I thought Sunday was called the Lord's day simply because it's the day on which Jesus was resurrected, as opposed to the OT Sabbath, which ran from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday.

    Your trivia for today: The Russian word for "Sunday" is the same as the Russian word for "Resurrection." (Воскрешение, pronounced "Vos-KRAY-sain-yuh").
     
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    hello Runner, dirtfarmer here

    In scripture Sunday is always referred to as the "first day of the week". The "Lord's day" refers to a terrible day(time) of judgment

    The day of the Lord is found 25 times in scripture. 23 time is referring to judgment. A few examples:
    1. Joel 1:15
    2. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5
    3. Isaiah 13:6
    4. Jeremiah 46:10
    5. Amos 5:18
    These are just a few.
     
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    Right - but that's because Hebrew days had no names, merely numbers. The "Sabbath" was a religious designation. There was no "Saturday" or "Sunday." In Hebrew, what we call Sunday was literally "the first day of the week." See http://www.yashanet.com/library/hebrew-days-and-months.html. Yes, the "day of the Lord" as used in the OT and NT is something entirely different. I was talking about common parlance - I have typically heard people refer to Sunday as the "Lord''s day" (and done it myself) as meaning "the day of His Resurrection."
     
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    hello Runner, dirtfarmer here

    I added scripture reference to post #14. If you study the names of the days of the week as we know them, you will find that they are named after false gods.
     
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    hello Runner, dirtfarmer here

    Do you live near Sedona, in the Red Rock Canyon?
     
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    Right - "Sunday" comes from the Latin dies solis, meaning "Sun's day," the name of a pagan Roman holiday. So this (it seems to me) would be yet another reason to refer to it as the Lord's day. If I went around saying "the first day of the week" when I meant Sunday, I would cause mass confusion among my relatives and friends since they are almost all going to regard the first day as Monday.

    Yes, I do live "near" Sedona in northern Arizona - close enough to get there in less than an hour, but far enough not to be caught up in the New Age lunacy.
     
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    hello Runner, dirtfarmer here

    The proper expression for Sunday would be "the first day of the week". Has the church been so indoctrinated by the devil that we call "the eighth day" the Lord's day?

    There are many things that the devil has indoctrinated the "church" with, such as, we call a building with 4 walls and a steeple, that people attend weekly, as "going to church". The building with the steeple is not the "church", it is the body of believers that assemble, whether in a person's home or even in store from building, that is the "Church"(body of believers).
     
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    hello Runner, dirtfarmer here

    Since you mentioned " new age lunacy", I quess you don't have a favorite crystal that you carry with you?
     

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