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The science of abortion: When does life begin?

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An older article, however most important to the abortion debate. Unfortunately, the abortion debate is immersed in political speech and worse psuedo philosophy. The article below shows how much people will ignore clear scientific definitions to avoid calling pre-born human life, just that...Human. The mental gymnastics used to avoid the scientific evidence is most concerning considering we are dealing with life and death.

I have one request for anyone disagreeing with the evidence presented below. Please offer opposing scientific evidence which concludes human life does not begin at conception. Secondly, since this is a Christian only section, please present either your Biblical exegesis in favor for elective abortions or your church teaching on elective abortions.

Elective abortion means the pregnant woman is healthy and the pre-born baby is healthy and yet the woman decides to abort.



The science of abortion: When does life begin?


By James D. Agresti
June 10, 2014

In a recent interview, Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) declared it is a scientific fact that “human life begins at conception.” He also said that “leaders on the left” who “wag their fingers” about the “settled science” of global warming are hypocrites when it comes to science, and someone should ask them if they accept the “consensus of scientists that says that human life begins at conception.”

Going further, the senator added, “I’d like to see someone ask that question. It’s never asked. And that’s not even a debatable thing, we can actually see that happening. I mean, that is a proven fact. And yet that’s a scientific consensus they conveniently choose to ignore.”

In the wake of these remarks, MSNBC reporter Irin Carmon and Washington Post blogger Philip Bump pushed back at Rubio, asserting that:

  • he made a “scientific blunder on abortion.” (Carmon)
  • “conception” and “life” “aren’t scientific terms.” (Carmon)
  • “the scientific experts we spoke with didn’t offer any consensus” on when life begins. (Bump)
However, as documented below, the facts of science support Rubio’s point and reveal that the claims of Carmon and Bump are scientifically baseless.

Science shows that life begins at conception

Contrary to Carmon’s allegation that “conception” and “life” are not scientific terms, both of these words are clearly defined in science dictionaries and widely used in scientific literature.

To cite just a few examples, the American Heritage Science Dictionary defines “conception” as “the formation of a zygote resulting from the union of a sperm and egg cell; fertilization.” (For reference, a zygote is the first stage of a human embryo.)

Likewise, the entry for “life” in the American Heritage Dictionary of Science states that life is “the form of existence that organisms like animals and plants have and that inorganic objects or organic dead bodies lack; animate existence, characterized by growth, reproduction, metabolism, and response to stimuli.”

Rubio’s statement that “human life begins at conception” is consistent with both of these definitions, because human zygotes display all four empirical attributes of life:

  1. Growth – As explained in the textbook Essentials of Human Development: A Life-Span View, “the zygote grows rapidly through cell division.”
  2. Reproduction – Per Human Sexuality: An Encyclopedia, zygotes sometimes form identical twins, which is an act of “asexual reproduction.” (Also, in this context, the word “reproduction” is more accurately understood as “reproductive potential” instead of “active reproduction.” For example, three-year-old humans are manifestly alive, but they can’t actively reproduce.)
  3. Metabolism – As detailed in the medical text Human Gametes and Preimplantation Embryos: Assessment and Diagnosis, “At the zygote stage,” the human embryo metabolizes “carboxylic acids pyruvate and lactate as its preferred energy substrates.”
  4. Response to stimuli – Collins English Dictionary defines a “stimulus” as “any drug, agent, electrical impulse, or other factor able to cause a response in an organism.” Experiments have shown that zygotes are responsive to such factors. For example, a 2005 paper in the journal Human Reproduction Update notes that a compound called platelet-activating factor “acts upon the zygote” by stimulating “metabolism,” “cell-cycle progression,” and “viability.”
Furthermore, the science of embryology has proven that the genetic composition of humans is formed during fertilization, and as the textbook Molecular Biology explains, this genetic material is “the very basis of life itself.”

In accord with the facts above, the textbook Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects directly states: “The zygote and early embryo are living human organisms.” This may be controversial from a political perspective, but the sciences of embryology and genetics leave no doubt as to when human life begins.


More here:
The science of abortion: When does life begin? - Just Facts
 
Doctors and the entire medical community kill more people every year than wars ever thought about. Mostly through abortion...But also through "medical mistakes".

So I really think that I should avoid such people.
 
I heard the other day that Israel, someone over there at least, has actual video of the moment of conception. I have not seen it, but I remember them saying you can see something the moment after the sperm enters the egg.
 
Just thought this was interesting.
I have no comment. It made me think of:
Let There Be Light
Let There Be Life

If I put all the correct ingredients in a pot, it'll turn into pasta sauce.
If someone shuts the flame, it won't.
It will turn into sauce, if it's LEFT ALONE. Nature does the rest.

 
dirtfarmer here

Leviticus: 17:11 " For the life of the flesh is in the blood,"
Leviticus 17:14 " For it is the life of all flesh, the blood of it is for the life thereof,"

Because of these verses it is my belief that a human life begins when blood begins to flow in the vessels of an embryo. Which is about 5 or 6 weeks after an egg begins to travel down the fallopian of the mother to be. After intercourse the sperm of the male beings to travel up the fallopian tube and meets the egg of the woman. Once the sperm and egg have combined it becomes a zygote. All the necessary DNA from the egg of the mother and the sperm of the father are there and for the next couple of days it continues to travel down the tube. A inner group of cells and an outer groups of cells form which is call blastocyst. The inner cells become the embryo and the outer cells become membranes. At about 5 weeks blood forms and the heart begins to form. At about 6 weeks the heart begins to pump blood in the main vessels. This is when I understand that life begins because of Leviticus 17:11 & 14.
 
dirtfarmer here

Leviticus: 17:11 " For the life of the flesh is in the blood,"
Leviticus 17:14 " For it is the life of all flesh, the blood of it is for the life thereof,"

Because of these verses it is my belief that a human life begins when blood begins to flow in the vessels of an embryo. Which is about 5 or 6 weeks after an egg begins to travel down the fallopian of the mother to be. After intercourse the sperm of the male beings to travel up the fallopian tube and meets the egg of the woman. Once the sperm and egg have combined it becomes a zygote. All the necessary DNA from the egg of the mother and the sperm of the father are there and for the next couple of days it continues to travel down the tube. A inner group of cells and an outer groups of cells form which is call blastocyst. The inner cells become the embryo and the outer cells become membranes. At about 5 weeks blood forms and the heart begins to form. At about 6 weeks the heart begins to pump blood in the main vessels. This is when I understand that life begins because of Leviticus 17:11 & 14.
I will post a thread in a few days which addresses the theological aspects of personhood.

For now we are exploring the scientific aspects.

Conception is the beginning of a new human being distinct from the parents. Biologically speaking.
 
Genesis 2:7

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Jeremiah 1:5

"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."

Romans 9:20

"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?"

1 Timothy 2:13

"For Adam was first formed, then Eve."

Genesis 2:7

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

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dirtfarmer here #17
And these are great points also: Leviticus: 17:11 " For the life of the flesh is in the blood,"
Leviticus 17:14 " For it is the life of all flesh, the blood of it is for the life thereof,"
 
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