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Listen in others?? You mean ourselves don't you?

RM 10:8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, in your mouth and in your heart" that is the word of faith which we are preaching

I hear the Lord speaking to me from inside me!!!
Yes Karl, we all know that Jesus speak to you directly, but you don't have to keep reminding us. It's like your standing on the street corner seeking praise from others. But if that is the reward that you seek, then congratulations. Now Karl, I sense you starting to get a bit backed up. maybe you should run in down to the old walmart store and get yourself some oat bran. After all Karl, this body is my temple. Oh! and by the way Karl, speaking of being backed up, while your at the store would you please pick up a roll of charmin, the blue roll, the really soft stuff. Stop being such a tight wad Karl looking for that cheap paper, don't you know that this temple deserves only the best! Yes Karl. We know that Jesus tells you what to do.


But from your statements Karl, I can tell you know nothing of the Word of God. If you did, then you would be able to hear that Word in others. But you don't and you can't, and you were actually taken aback that I even make such a suggestion. But your suggestion that only you can hear the words of Jesus is quite arrogant and prideful, and your actions demonstrate foolishness and immaturity.

You know nothing of the Word of God, or you would know that it is a Word not meant for you to keep. It is a Word that speaks for our Creator through us. It is a Word that swells up from within like a fountain from the deep, and when the cup runneth over, then you can proclaim the Word to others, so that if they are listening, they can hear the words of the Father, for they are words of His Kingdom. But His Kingdom is of the Spirit, and his Word that is in my heart, it is Spirit, and it speaks of Christ.

But if you are content to live after the flesh listening to Jesus instruction to you, don't squeeze the charmin, then know that we are happy for you, you don't need to tell us about it. It is not edifying to the Kingdom. I need to loose some weight. I went to park at the store and Jesus said NO, park at the end of the lot, the spaces are empty and you need your steps. But that is not something that is edifying to anyone else unless they first ask " What did you do to loose all that weight?" Then you may glorify the Lord for his encouragement. But until then, you do not speak of the Lord, you speak of yourself.
 

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And since I, like everyone, hear by faith, there are things I have a hard time picking up because I lack the faith to believe I can hear from Him on some things.
We do not hear by faith as faith comes by hearing and hearing by what,..............by the word of God.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

We are zealous for Christ as He is our faith and by hearing the word of God as when we read what has been instructed for us to read for the purpose of knowledge and understanding given to all of us by Gods very Spirit (Holy Spirit) we can read the words of Christ just like we were there when He spoke them. I hear the voice of God literally at times, but also in His word, in the rustling of the trees, in the movement and sound of the river flowing by etc. etc. as the list goes on.

Prayer is us having fellowship with the Father as we send up our petitions to Jesus who is our mediator between God and us, but we do not always have to pray to hear Him as our relationship with Christ is a personal one that is totally different then another's as we all come to Christ in many different ways. Some will literally hear Him speak while others will hear Him speak through His word.

What amazes me is that you cannot understand the word of God is God as He speaks to us through His written word, quoted in red letters where Christ is speaking and also some Bibles have the OT red letters. The Bible is a book, but a book of not chapters and verses as man added that, but are the letters of the prophets and Apostles sent to all who will have ears to hear what the Lord is saying as these letters are inspired by Gods Spirit as they heard God literally speak to them and those Apostles that walked with Jesus and have quoted Him so we can hear by faith that of what God has already spoken by Himself, through His Son Jesus and now through His Holy Spirit that speaks to us verbally and through the word of God. The scriptures are very important for us to read and study through the Holy Spirit who speaks to us through them. If you can not understand that then I do not know what more I can tell you of the various ways we hear God speak to us.
 
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We do not hear by faith as faith comes by hearing and hearing by what,..............by the word of God.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
We are zealous for Christ as He is our faith and by hearing the word of God as when we read
Gal 3:2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

One verse does not cancel out or disprove another verse! Indeed, faith that God exists comes from hearing Him talk to you personally. Yet faith also has different amounts. You can have little faith or greater faith. So the more you have a conversation back and forth with the Lord the more your faith increases, just as it is written, "faith comes by hearing". You hear more, you have more faith! So how about the first time? How much faith is needed for that. Well not much, The Lord said you could say to this mountain move and it would move, but what mountain. The disciples had just come down the mountain of transfiguration where the Father said, "This is my beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased, Listen to Him." That is the mountain, we have to move but it only takes a small amount of faith to move it. But if even a small amount of faith, how do we get that if we do have not heard?

Well we have heard. All have heard. Jesus said He stands at the door and knocks and if anyone hears His voice (Rev 3:20) So He is knocking with His voice and we hear that, and even more, because it is also written right there in Romans chapter 10

Rm 10:18 But I say, surely they have never heard have they? Indeed they have; "THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH, AND THEIR WORDS TO THE END OF THE WORLD."

So all have the faith needed to open the door already, and that before the Bible had made it through to the all the world! The Angles of heaven had already testified about the Christ.

Heb 2:2 For if the word spoken through angels proved unalterable... how will we escape salvation if we neglect so great a salvation

And we know that salvation is from listening for His son as He Himself commands from the mountain.

Heb 1:2 In these last days has spoken to us in His Son.

And we know that Paul wrote this. And Paul had not known Jesus until after the resurrection when he first hear the words "Saul, Saul why do you persecute Me?"

So Saul had read and studied the Scriptures, which were not hearing from the Lord, but then heard from the Lord whom he did not know from reading and studying, because Saul said, "Who are you Lord?" Thus the reading was not the Lord's voice, but the Lord did and does have a voice, and words to speak to us. And He is standing there at the door speaking and we have heard it, but some don't listen as commanded by the Father. Like Saul, they think they are good with God because they have read and studied, but they did not get understanding, because understanding comes from His mouth not His book.

Prov 2:6 For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding.

And so it is that the Lord has sent the Spirit of God who speaks to us. He does not speak on His own inititive but as He hears He speaks. The Spirit takes the words of God from the Son who owns them and gives them to us, but we have to be willing to listen to Him who is and has been standing at the door knocking! But if you think He is the Scriptures you are as wrong as Saul was as He started off down the road. Perhaps you will hear on the road, perhaps not?

Prayer is us having fellowship with the Father as we send up our petitions to Jesus who is our mediator between God and us, but we do not always have to pray to hear Him as our relationship with Christ is a personal
We have fellowship with the Father and the Son, through the Spirit who speaks only what He hears. Did you not read that David while in the Spirit heard the Father speaking to the Son, and then wrote, "The Lord said to my Lord". Have you never heard the Father speaking to the Son when listening with your spiritual ears?

But then Jesus told the Pharisees, Jn 8:43 Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word.

It should not be hard to understand. The Spirit of God hooks up with our spirit and since He speaks only what He hears we can hear in the heavens. We first need to hear from the Lord Jesus Christ, because nobody gets in except through Him. But if Him then the Father. And if the Father the Kingdom. So we hear. And if in the heavens, and some there have fallen, then we need to test the spirits. Not by leaning on your own understanding, but we are told a test to use: 1Jn 4:1-3 -... (2) By this you know the Spirit of God; every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God

So to hear spirits confess this, you must obviously first be able to hear with your spiritual ears! Again, we are testing spirits! Our battle is not with flesh and blood, but with spiritual forces of darkness.

So anyway, we have fellowship with both the Father and the Son

1 Jn 1:3 what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.

And primarily with the Son, because He is our Lord and King of kings because it is the Father's desire, and so again the Father says "Listen to Him"

1 Cor 1:9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

This of course is all obvious to a person who does listen, because they talk back and forth (commune) with their Lord - back to Rev 3:20 ... if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him and he with Me.

So who doesn't understand this. It is the one who has not listen to Him knocking and opened the door. Though they have heard the knock, they do not open up to his voice.

Jesus put it like this: Jn 5:39 You search the Scriptures because you think in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

Yes the Scriptures have a testimony about the reality of Jesus. He is speaking, but we do not hear. We have a command from the Father, but we will not listen. So it is also written "Keep on listening, but do not perceive; Keep on looking, but do not understand" (Is 6:9) And Mat 13:15 ... because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, not do they understand.

So I can explain clearly and often that we can indeed hear the person of our Lord Jesus Christ speaking to us, but they will continue to search the Scriptures thinking in them they have eternal life. The Scriptures don't talk to you people! The Lord does. He will tell you to read the Scriptures, and so will talk to you about the Scriptures, but if you are thinking that the reading is the hearing, you do not still understand! He is a person, the One who said He would never leave you. So He is not the Book!

What amazes me is that you cannot understand the word of God is God as He speaks to us through His written word
It's sad! He does not speak to us through His written word, but about His written word, because He is a person, the Son, the first born of all creation. The One, The Word that was in the beginning with God and was God, and not the writings that are supposed to give us the wisdom to seek His voice. Have you not even heard someone talk to you about the small voice of the Lord speaking to them. Well, He is the person that is behind that voice. He told Saul, "I am Jesus..." and that start a relationship between Saul and the Lord. So have you not heard Him tell you, "I am Jesus..."? Do you not have that personal relationship? Are you not having conversations with Him everyday? I hope you do, so I write. Paul hoped they did, so he wrote, testified, and did what he could. The Lord Jesus Christ is worth knowing!!! And He is not writing, He is a person. He is God!
 
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Yes Karl, we all know that Jesus speak to you directly,
I don't write because He talks to me directly. I write for two reasons. The first is that He tells me to. And the second, which is also why He tells me to write; is so that 'you' (His people, and not 'you' personally) will listen to Him.

If His people really understood about listening to Him and did it, they would surely know why I write! They would surely know that if you hear from the Lord, you get commandments, and the work of God is that all should come to know the Son. Thus someone listening like they should would understand that the Lord had asked me to do it, and so would also know that it has nothing to do with Jesus speaking to me directly, but every thing about getting people to know the Lord for themselves!

It's like your standing on the street corner seeking praise from others.
Before He asked me to write this time He talked to be about the use of sarcasm. It is normally not the best tool, but it sometimes does get a point across. That is:

Are you serious. Get praise about hear for bringing this message!!

Look at what you yourself wrote, was it praise? I get sarcasm, for doing what He asked. I get put down. I get lots of things, but I don't usually praise. But that is not bad. Nobody really knows me or how to get at me. And the Lord does give me encouragement, if not people. Besides, others have been given this message and gotten lots worse.

You have really got it wrong. If up to me, I wouldn't write here. And certainly not now. I was working on my business which will get me money when the Lord asked me to write this time. I was almost done with my work, but He asked me to write and finish later. I was wondering why, but now I see that it was so I would only be doing it at this moment because He told me and in no way because I wanted to. So I would certainly know that someone thinking I am doing this for my personal benefit was certainly not listening to Him!
 
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I don't write because He talks to me directly. I write for two reasons. The first is that He tells me to. And the second, which is also why He tells me to write; is so that 'you' (His people, and not 'you' personally) will listen to Him.

If His people really understood about listening to Him and did it, they would surely know why I write! They would surely know that if you hear from the Lord, you get commandments, and the work of God is that all should come to know the Son. Thus someone listening like they should would understand that the Lord had asked me to do it, and so would also know that it has nothing to do with Jesus speaking to me directly, but every thing about getting people to know the Lord for themselves!



Before He asked me to write this time He talked to be about the use of sarcasm. It is normally not the best tool, but it sometimes does get a point across. That is:

Are you serious. Get praise about hear for bringing this message!!

Look at what you yourself wrote, was it praise? I get sarcasm, for doing what He asked. I get put down. I get lots of things, but I don't usually praise. But that is not bad. Nobody really knows me or how to get at me. And the Lord does give me encouragement, if not people. Besides, others have been given this message and gotten lots worse.

You have really got it wrong. If up to me, I wouldn't write here. And certainly not now. I was working on my business which will get me money when the Lord asked me to write this time. I was almost done with my work, but He asked me to write and finish later. I was wondering why, but now I see that it was so I would only be doing it at this moment because He told me and in no way because I wanted to. So I would certainly know that someone thinking I am doing this for my personal benefit was certainly not listening to Him!
Congratulations, not only does Jesus tell you to get up and write, but did he teach you to write in tongues, or is that something you picked up naturally on your own? I'm sorry, but I was edified by none of that, perhaps you can find and interpreter?
 

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Gal 3:2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

One verse does not cancel out or disprove another verse! Indeed, faith that God exists comes from hearing Him talk to you personally. Yet faith also has different amounts. You can have little faith or greater faith. So the more you have a conversation back and forth with the Lord the more your faith increases, just as it is written, "faith comes by hearing". You hear more, you have more faith! So how about the first time? How much faith is needed for that. Well not much, The Lord said you could say to this mountain move and it would move, but what mountain. The disciples had just come down the mountain of transfiguration where the Father said, "This is my beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased, Listen to Him." That is the mountain, we have to move but it only takes a small amount of faith to move it. But if even a small amount of faith, how do we get that if we do have not heard?

Well we have heard. All have heard. Jesus said He stands at the door and knocks and if anyone hears His voice (Rev 3:20) So He is knocking with His voice and we hear that, and even more, because it is also written right there in Romans chapter 10

Rm 10:18 But I say, surely they have never heard have they? Indeed they have; "THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH, AND THEIR WORDS TO THE END OF THE WORLD."

So all have the faith needed to open the door already, and that before the Bible had made it through to the all the world! The Angles of heaven had already testified about the Christ.

Heb 2:2 For if the word spoken through angels proved unalterable... how will we escape salvation if we neglect so great a salvation

And we know that salvation is from listening for His son as He Himself commands from the mountain.

Heb 1:2 In these last days has spoken to us in His Son.

And we know that Paul wrote this. And Paul had not known Jesus until after the resurrection when he first hear the words "Saul, Saul why do you persecute Me?"

So Saul had read and studied the Scriptures, which were not hearing from the Lord, but then heard from the Lord whom he did not know from reading and studying, because Saul said, "Who are you Lord?" Thus the reading was not the Lord's voice, but the Lord did and does have a voice, and words to speak to us. And He is standing there at the door speaking and we have heard it, but some don't listen as commanded by the Father. Like Saul, they think they are good with God because they have read and studied, but they did not get understanding, because understanding comes from His mouth not His book.

Prov 2:6 For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding.

And so it is that the Lord has sent the Spirit of God who speaks to us. He does not speak on His own inititive but as He hears He speaks. The Spirit takes the words of God from the Son who owns them and gives them to us, but we have to be willing to listen to Him who is and has been standing at the door knocking! But if you think He is the Scriptures you are as wrong as Saul was as He started off down the road. Perhaps you will hear on the road, perhaps not?



We have fellowship with the Father and the Son, through the Spirit who speaks only what He hears. Did you not read that David while in the Spirit heard the Father speaking to the Son, and then wrote, "The Lord said to my Lord". Have you never heard the Father speaking to the Son when listening with your spiritual ears?

But then Jesus told the Pharisees, Jn 8:43 Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word.

It should not be hard to understand. The Spirit of God hooks up with our spirit and since He speaks only what He hears we can hear in the heavens. We first need to hear from the Lord Jesus Christ, because nobody gets in except through Him. But if Him then the Father. And if the Father the Kingdom. So we hear. And if in the heavens, and some there have fallen, then we need to test the spirits. Not by leaning on your own understanding, but we are told a test to use: 1Jn 4:1-3 -... (2) By this you know the Spirit of God; every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God

So to hear spirits confess this, you must obviously first be able to hear with your spiritual ears! Again, we are testing spirits! Our battle is not with flesh and blood, but with spiritual forces of darkness.

So anyway, we have fellowship with both the Father and the Son

1 Jn 1:3 what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.

And primarily with the Son, because He is our Lord and King of kings because it is the Father's desire, and so again the Father says "Listen to Him"

1 Cor 1:9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

This of course is all obvious to a person who does listen, because they talk back and forth (commune) with their Lord - back to Rev 3:20 ... if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him and he with Me.

So who doesn't understand this. It is the one who has not listen to Him knocking and opened the door. Though they have heard the knock, they do not open up to his voice.

Jesus put it like this: Jn 5:39 You search the Scriptures because you think in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

Yes the Scriptures have a testimony about the reality of Jesus. He is speaking, but we do not hear. We have a command from the Father, but we will not listen. So it is also written "Keep on listening, but do not perceive; Keep on looking, but do not understand" (Is 6:9) And Mat 13:15 ... because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, not do they understand.

So I can explain clearly and often that we can indeed hear the person of our Lord Jesus Christ speaking to us, but they will continue to search the Scriptures thinking in them they have eternal life. The Scriptures don't talk to you people! The Lord does. He will tell you to read the Scriptures, and so will talk to you about the Scriptures, but if you are thinking that the reading is the hearing, you do not still understand! He is a person, the One who said He would never leave you. So He is not the Book!



It's sad! He does not speak to us through His written word, but about His written word, because He is a person, the Son, the first born of all creation. The One, The Word that was in the beginning with God and was God, and not the writings that are supposed to give us the wisdom to seek His voice. Have you not even heard someone talk to you about the small voice of the Lord speaking to them. Well, He is the person that is behind that voice. He told Saul, "I am Jesus..." and that start a relationship between Saul and the Lord. So have you not heard Him tell you, "I am Jesus..."? Do you not have that personal relationship? Are you not having conversations with Him everyday? I hope you do, so I write. Paul hoped they did, so he wrote, testified, and did what he could. The Lord Jesus Christ is worth knowing!!! And He is not writing, He is a person. He is God!
Since scripture says faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God it was by a preacher preaching on salvation that God drew me to Him by hearing the preacher teach me how to come to Jesus. It was up to me there after to seek and Christ and have Him reveal Himself to me both by the word first and them hearing His Spirit speaking to me.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Before the written word God spoke to His prophets either verbally or by His angels, by dreams, signs and great wonders. They were the early preachers of Gods word as they taught others. The disciples walked with Jesus and were indwelled with the Holy Spirit who gave them understanding of what Jesus spoke as their Spiritual eyes and ears were opened on the day of Pentecost. Paul had a personal encounter with Christ as I and many others have had at the time of conversion and also indwelled with the Holy Spirit to preach the words of God. Those preachers of today (not all) have been anointed by that indwelling of the Holy Spirit as they continue to preach the word of God.

Still today God speaks to us in many ways that are not all audible, but we can hear Him speak to us through His word if we are listening to that small still voice that guides us in all things.
 

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I don't write because He talks to me directly. I write for two reasons. The first is that He tells me to. And the second, which is also why He tells me to write; is so that 'you' (His people, and not 'you' personally) will listen to Him.

If His people really understood about listening to Him and did it, they would surely know why I write! They would surely know that if you hear from the Lord, you get commandments, and the work of God is that all should come to know the Son. Thus someone listening like they should would understand that the Lord had asked me to do it, and so would also know that it has nothing to do with Jesus speaking to me directly, but every thing about getting people to know the Lord for themselves!



Before He asked me to write this time He talked to be about the use of sarcasm. It is normally not the best tool, but it sometimes does get a point across. That is:

Are you serious. Get praise about hear for bringing this message!!

Look at what you yourself wrote, was it praise? I get sarcasm, for doing what He asked. I get put down. I get lots of things, but I don't usually praise. But that is not bad. Nobody really knows me or how to get at me. And the Lord does give me encouragement, if not people. Besides, others have been given this message and gotten lots worse.

You have really got it wrong. If up to me, I wouldn't write here. And certainly not now. I was working on my business which will get me money when the Lord asked me to write this time. I was almost done with my work, but He asked me to write and finish later. I was wondering why, but now I see that it was so I would only be doing it at this moment because He told me and in no way because I wanted to. So I would certainly know that someone thinking I am doing this for my personal benefit was certainly not listening to Him!
Your writings bring much condemnation, especially on a very young Christian, as you seem to present yourself as a prophet from God to send warning on His people because you deem they do not hear Him speak to them. How can you make such a statement when you know not the hearts of those who are His own. Do you know how many baby Christians that come to these forums that by what you say may think themselves not saved as they have never heard God speak to them. I have never heard God or Jesus verbally speak to me like He did with His prophets in the OT and with Paul in the NT, but have had His Holy Spirit speak to me many times. Actually if one thinks about it it is all Gods Spirit that speaks to us in various ways. God would never use sarcasm as He is very direct and I would think He is not pleased when we do as it brings no glory or honor to His name.
 

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This is the apologetics board. Seems we have two options. Close this one and start another or just close this one. I've had to delete and edit a few post so I'm inclined to close it.

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I agree with Paul that I am also a servant:

Rom 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, (ESV)

So, you like Paul, I mean Saul, was struck down on the road to Damascus and blinded, and specifically called out by the Lord to preach the gospel to the Gentiles? Maybe you were like James, personally hand picked by Jesus to be an Apostle and a Servant?

Or maybe unlike the prodigal son, you prefer to hide from your Father among the servants of the field?
 
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So, you like Paul, I mean Saul, was struck down on the road to Damascus and blinded, and specifically called out by the Lord to preach the gospel to the Gentiles? Maybe you were like James, personally hand picked by Jesus to be an Apostle and a Servant?

Or maybe unlike the prodigal son, you prefer to hide from your Father among the servants of the field?
we are all servants
 
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Jesus showed us how a Son must become servant of all. But a Son is Son. A Son can be a servant, but a SERVANT is NOT a SON.

A Servant will be judged according to his works. Are you ready to present your works before the Lord as an offering? Do you know how that offering will be received?
 
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Jesus showed us how a Son must become servant of all. But a Son is Son. A Son can be a servant, but a SERVANT is NOT a SON.

A Servant will be judged according to his works. Are you ready to present your works before the Lord as an offering? Do you know how that offering will be received?
hey i dont need your rude remarks !! you seem to be on a role a servant serves foot washing is great symbolic gesture of servant hood. psst we are going to be judged for our works any how . take a chill pill any time you do something for someone needing help your being a servant
 
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hey i dont need your rude remarks !! you seem to be on a role a servant serves foot washing is great symbolic gesture of servant hood. psst we are going to be judged for our works any how . take a chill pill any time you do something for someone needing help your being a servant
Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, nor was I trying to be rude. I was trying to ask a serious question. It's a probing question, I'm just trying to see what your understanding is of the judgement before the Lake of Fire, where we are judged according to our works. Our works are our offering. I was only asking if you knew how the Lord takes up those offerings.

I have a topic in mind, and I was just seeking a little feedback before I start it. That's all. If you don't know then just say so, nothing wrong with that. But suggesting I take a chill pill? Well, isn't that being a bit rude?

Oh, pssst, and by the way; I won't be judge according to my works, because I have no righteous works to offer. How can I be judge for something I don't have?
 
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So, you like Paul, I mean Saul, was struck down on the road to Damascus and blinded, and specifically called out by the Lord to preach the gospel to the Gentiles? Maybe you were like James, personally hand picked by Jesus to be an Apostle and a Servant?

Or maybe unlike the prodigal son, you prefer to hide from your Father among the servants of the field?
None of that is relevant. And you failed to address what James and John said, even implying that all believers are servants.

Regardless, I’ve seen enough attitude from you. This is closed.
 
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