Bible Study The Strictest Discipline

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The Strictest Discipline

If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. Matthew 5:30

Jesus did not say that everyone must cut off his right hand, but that “if your right hand causes you to sin” in your walk with Him, then it is better to “cut it off.” There are many things that are perfectly legitimate, but if you are going to concentrate on God you cannot do them. Your right hand is one of the best things you have, but Jesus says that if it hinders you in following His precepts, then “cut it off.” The principle taught here is the strictest discipline or lesson that ever hit humankind.

When God changes you through regeneration, giving you new life through spiritual rebirth, your life initially has the characteristic of being maimed. There are a hundred and one things that you dare not do— things that would be sin for you, and would be recognized as sin by those who really know you. But the unspiritual people around you will say, “What’s so wrong with doing that? How absurd you are!” There has never yet been a saint who has not lived a maimed life initially. Yet it is better to enter into life maimed but lovely in God’s sight than to appear lovely to man’s eyes but lame to God’s. At first, Jesus Christ through His Spirit has to restrain you from doing a great many things that may be perfectly right for everyone else but not right for you. Yet, see that you don’t use your restrictions to criticize someone else.
The Christian life is a maimed life initially, but in Matthew 5:48 Jesus gave us the picture of a perfectly well-rounded life— “You shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.” From My Utmost for His Highest Updated Edition

Bible in One Year: Job 14-16; Acts 9:22-43​

WISDOM FROM OSWALD CHAMBERS

The great point of Abraham’s faith in God was that he was prepared to do anything for God.​

 

[Razeontherock]

Apparently the words "strict" and "discipline" aren't what people are wanting to discuss? Lol

I still remember the first time I read that passage from Matthew; for it to draw me so makes NO sense from a carnal perspective, and yet ...

 

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The Strictest Discipline

If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. Matthew 5:30

Jesus did not say that everyone must cut off his right hand, but that “if your right hand causes you to sin” in your walk with Him, then it is better to “cut it off.” There are many things that are perfectly legitimate, but if you are going to concentrate on God you cannot do them. Your right hand is one of the best things you have, but Jesus says that if it hinders you in following His precepts, then “cut it off.” The principle taught here is the strictest discipline or lesson that ever hit humankind.

When God changes you through regeneration, giving you new life through spiritual rebirth, your life initially has the characteristic of being maimed. There are a hundred and one things that you dare not do— things that would be sin for you, and would be recognized as sin by those who really know you. But the unspiritual people around you will say, “What’s so wrong with doing that? How absurd you are!” There has never yet been a saint who has not lived a maimed life initially. Yet it is better to enter into life maimed but lovely in God’s sight than to appear lovely to man’s eyes but lame to God’s. At first, Jesus Christ through His Spirit has to restrain you from doing a great many things that may be perfectly right for everyone else but not right for you. Yet, see that you don’t use your restrictions to criticize someone else.
The Christian life is a maimed life initially, but in Matthew 5:48 Jesus gave us the picture of a perfectly well-rounded life— “You shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.” From My Utmost for His Highest Updated Edition
Bible in One Year: Job 14-16; Acts 9:22-43
WISDOM FROM OSWALD CHAMBERS
The great point of Abraham’s faith in God was that he was prepared to do anything for God.

Many people avoid Christianity like the plague specifically because it requires self discipline and submission to the perfect will of God. The natural man doesn't like submitting to God. The natural man want's to be his own god and decide for himself what good and evil are. The normal, fallen state of man is rebellion and immaturity. Like a 2-year-old, they want to do whatever enters their mind and get very upset when anything gets in their way.

So, when they hear that the attaining to the Kingdom of God is worth cutting off you right hand and plucking out your eye if they are in the way of you getting there, they rebel.

 

[ezra]

Many people avoid Christianity like the plague specifically because it requires self discipline and submission to the perfect will of God. The natural man doesn't like submitting to God. The natural man want's to be his own god and decide for himself what good and evil are. The normal, fallen state of man is rebellion and immaturity. Like a 2-year-old, they want to do whatever enters their mind and get very upset when anything gets in their way.

So, when they hear that the attaining to the Kingdom of God is worth cutting off you right hand and plucking out your eye if they are in the way of you getting there, they rebel.

 

[ezra]

Many people avoid Christianity like the plague specifically because it requires self discipline and submission to the perfect will of God. The natural man doesn't like submitting to God. The natural man want's to be his own god and decide for himself what good and evil are.

this describes us to the T. were like a roller coaster up and down all around. we do good then we hit a flesh streak . i am going to share a post a young lady made of her fall.. it will be the next post. this lady and her husband tried desperately to have children. in the end they had 4 kids 3 girls and a boy. the cost was great i think 2 or 3 miscarriages.if memory serves right .i think she had a tumor removed that was causing part of the issue .the lady is very bright well versed in scripture and can sing very wonderfully a gifted speaker etc. this is just a back ground. i know her personally and her husband . i seen the husband go from having a ministry in the church with growth . he took a leave of absence and no one in the church . had any idea he was trying to save his marriage .this went on for over a month . i stood in for him a few times.. see some times we have no clue what is going on inside a person.. take time to read this plea of help or what ever it is she posted .

 

[ezra]

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I was a preacher/pastors wife for 22 years and counseled people for all of those years. I’ve taught lesson, sang songs and ministered to many about their hurt, pain, tragedies and hardships yet ignored mine for years. I know the scriptures, all the books, bible studies, sermon series and songs. I was so busy taking care of others, I failed to take care of myself and my family. I mean that’s what a good preaches wife does, right? We help others and smile doing it. Be strong. Be a leader and good example. Be perfect.
Before you know it, you’re the one who needs the counseling. I thought I was being that good example but was in reality being a bad one. I was portraying an unattainable level of a picture perfect life. I set myself up for failure. Looking back I can see all the places I went wrong. People don’t need to see a picture perfect life. They need to see someone who stays consistent. Get tired and weary? Yes, but have the wisdom to allow people to help. That’s the good example. They didn’t need to see someone who never messed up, they needed to see how to fixed what you messed up and how to avoid doing it again. How to allow the Lord to guide you instead of your past hurt, insecurities, pain and emotions.
Oh the lessons we learn. This song means more to me now that I really understand what it’s saying.
I hope I can get back to where I know I should be. I know God has a lot of work for me to do. I pray he gives me the strength and wisdom to learn from my mistakes and help others avoid the place where I am now. I may not ever be and do what I was supposed to be and should have been. I know there is forgiveness, grace and mercy...but there is also consequences. My consequence is that I broke my family. My children and family are hurt and I forever altered their life because of my selfishness. People, never fool yourself into thinking sin has no consequence. BUT, now this is a big but, my God is a very big God. He can heal them. He can heal me. My path may not be the same as what He originally intended but he can take what Satan meant to completely destroy me with and do great things with it.
I will forever face challenges and will forever have to live with my consequences BUT I don’t have to let it rule over my life.
Learn a lesson from this former preachers wife. Perfection only existed in one person. Jesus Christ. You’re gonna face temptations. You’re gonna mess up. Hard times will come. Don’t ignore the problems. You can’t smile your way through them forever. Get help. Don’t let fear keep you from getting help. No one is perfect. Don’t let yourself get to such a place that you make a life altering mistake. BUT IF YOU DO......You can be forgiven. You can have peace again. You can walk in a room again without shame.
As I sit here in this gas station parking lot, as people look at me strangely, I cry. Right now my tears are from sorrow and pain but I have a hope they will not last forever. My tears may never go away in this life, but there will come a day when the Almighty God himself will wipe them all away.

others posted and blamed the church.. she took these things upon her self as per counsel the end results was her and her husband divorced . he is single pastor at another church. on the outside he appears good but on the inside is a war raging

 

[ezra]

after you read the above take time to pray for Nancy. she still struggles i see her post on face book ..GOD allows u turns

 

[iLOVE]

If it's not faith in Christ and what He did for us at the Cross, then it's faith that God will not recognize. The apostle says, "Christ shall profit you nothing" (Gal. 5:2). He says, "Christ is become of no effect unto you" (Gal. 5:4). That's the terrible problem that affixes itself to most Christians. They are trusting in things other than the Cross, making Christ of no effect. This guarantees spiritual failure. In fact, when the believer do this, they fall from Grace. In other words, the goodness of God, which, in effect, is the Grace of God, can no longer be extended to such Christians. The end result of such a position is bleak indeed!

Justification delivers us from the penalty of sin, while sanctification delivers us from the power of sin.

Our battle is not against acts of sin, but the fight is to keep our faith in who Christ is and what He did on the Cross, so we stay in His death, burial, and resurrection and are, therefore, victorious. That is the only way we are triumphant in Christ (II Cor. 2:14). And that is the only way He can work in us both to will (change our desires), and to do (give us the power of the Holy Spirit) (Phil. 2:13), so we can overcome sin. This is the only way believers can yield themselves as God’s servants (slaves) of obedience instead of being slaves to sin unto death (Rom. 6:16).

...and have no confidence in the flesh (in things other than the Cross, which alone is the guarantee of Salvation and Victory. Philippians 3:3

Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you (instead of softening or modifying this seemingly harsh Doctrine, He instead intensified it by declaring it indispensable to Salvation), Except you eat the Flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His Blood, you have no life in you (this terminology addresses the Cross; Christ would give Himself on the Cross for the Salvation of mankind; to fully believe in Him and what He did for us is what He means here; however, this Verse tells us the degree of believing that is required; it refers to the Cross being the total Object of one's belief; failing that, there is no Life in you) John 6:53

JSM