The United States and Great Britain in Prophecy

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While the Jewish state and the city of Jerusalem do certainly play an important role in end-time prophecies, not all Israelites are Jews. The ancient patriarch Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel, was the father of 12 sons. One of those sons, Judah, was the progenitor of the Jewish people. What happened to the descendants of the other sons?

The northern ten tribes never returned from their captivity! Settled in an area hundreds of miles from where the Jews were taken more than a century later, the ten tribes of Israel remained completely separate and distinct from the Jews.

What happened to the ten tribes of Israel? History has called them the "lost ten tribes." Where did they go? The answer to that question is one of history's most fascinating stories. In fact, the answer to that mystery is the actual key that unlocks most of the Old Testament prophecies!

As you may guess, the identity and location of these ancient peoples reveals who we are in the United States, Canada, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand and among the British-descended peoples of South Africa. It explains why we have achieved such national greatness, and what will happen to us near the end of this present age!

The knowledge of the identity of the descendants of ancient Israel is revealed by a close examination of scripture together with the record of secular history. The most highly educated leaders of our modern world are blind to the true facts of this matter. They are blinded by the theory of evolution into completely discounting the Bible as relevant for today. As a result, they fail to see the amazing story laid out in scripture and its relevance for our future.

In Genesis 11:26–32 we are introduced to Abram, whose name was later changed to Abraham. The rest of the Bible is an outgrowth of God's dealings with him and the promises He made to Abraham and to his descendants. The promises to Abraham are the basis of nearly all future Bible prophecies!

In Genesis 12:1–3 we have record of the first promises that God made to Abram. God told him that He would make of him "a great nation," that he would be blessed and that through him all nations would be blessed, and that God would "bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you" (v. 3).

In Genesis 17:6, God promised: "I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you." At this point Abram also learned that he would become the father of many nations (v. 4). God told him that He was changing his name to Abraham, meaning the "father of a multitude," and Sarai's name to Sarah, meaning "princess." Within a year, he was told, Sarah would bear him a son (Genesis 17:19; cf. 18:14). Such a thing seemed too incredible for words, but nevertheless it happened just as God said that it would and Isaac was born at the appointed time.

"But aren't all of the promises to Abraham fulfilled in Christ?" some might ask. That is a question that must be answered directly from the Bible.

Clearly, according to Galatians 3:26–29, all true Christians are accounted as spiritual children of Abraham and heirs of the promise. The ultimate fulfillment of God's blessings upon Abraham include the promise that he and his spiritual offspring would inherit the whole earth (Romans 4:13; cf. Matthew 5:5). Abraham was promised an everlasting inheritance (Genesis 17:8), which certainly presupposes the possession of eternal life!
Obviously there was a spiritual aspect to the promises that God made to Abraham! God's grace was to be extended to all mankind through the one Seed, Christ (cf. Galatians 3:16). The Messiah, descended from Abraham, would be the One through whom the blessing of salvation from sin and the gift of eternal life would become available to all mankind through God's grace.

However, there was also a physical aspect to the promises to Abraham. The birthright involved promises of national greatness as well as agricultural and mineral wealth. In Genesis 13:16 Abraham was told by God that He would make his seed number like the dust of the ground. Here, clearly, the reference is to Abraham's numerous physical descendants who would inherit national greatness and possess the gates of their enemies.

The promises to Abraham include both spiritual and physical components. They point toward Jesus the Messiah, but they also point toward the birthright blessings that would be bestowed upon a multitude of his descendants who would become a great nation and a great company of nations. This does not mean that the recipients of these blessings are any better or more special than those who did not receive the blessings. In fact, we see that those who received the physical blessings have, for the most part, squandered them and turned from God, for which they will have to face His judgment.

 

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Ephraim and Manasseh Receive the Birthright

Let us look further at how the birthright promises were amplified for the descendants of Joseph. An important part of this story occurred a short time before the death of Jacob-Israel. By this time he and his entire family were living in Egypt where Joseph was serving as Administrator directly under Pharaoh. Joseph came to visit his elderly and infirm father and brought with him his two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. A little-understood ceremony occurred during this visit.

In Genesis 48:5, Israel informed Joseph that he was adopting Ephraim and Manasseh that they would be counted as his and therefore be counted among the tribes of Israel. Thus Joseph was given a double portion. After Joseph brought his sons close, Israel embraced them, proceeded to lay hands on them and set them apart for special blessing.

At this time a remarkable event occurred. Joseph had purposely arranged the boys so that the older, Manasseh, was standing on Israel's right side and the younger, Ephraim, was standing on his left side. This was so that he would place his right hand, signifying the greater blessing, on Manasseh and the left on Ephraim. Israel, however, crossed his hands and put the right hand on Ephraim and the left on Manasseh. When Joseph saw this he tried to correct what he perceived as a mistake on the part of his nearly-blind father. Israel resisted, however, and explained that this crossing of his hands was purposeful.

Israel told Joseph that his older son Manasseh was to become a great people, but that Ephraim was to become a multitude or company of nations (v. 19). Here we find that a great nation and also a great company of nations were to spring from the descendants of Joseph. They were the ones who receive the birthright blessings of national greatness. This included possession of strategic check points through which their enemies would have to pass, vast agricultural and mineral wealth, and status as world powers that would exercise dominance over other nations. Since God had promised that they would be a blessing to other nations, we know that their dominance as world powers would be exercised in a benign way overall.

Is there historical record of these promises being fulfilled? Before we examine that, look at a few more details that unfold in the book of Genesis. A short time after adopting Ephraim and Manasseh and conveying the birthright blessings upon them, Israel called all of his sons to his bedside. He was at the end of his long life and wanted to give his last admonition and blessing to his family.
Notice what he told them. "And Jacob called his sons and said, 'Gather together, that I may tell you what shall befall you in the last days" (49:1). Israel's prophecy that followed was not for his day or for the time when his descendants would come out of Egypt and enter into the Promised Land. It was for the end-times! Clearly at the end-time the descendants of Israel were still to exist as separate, identifiable tribes.

Notice his words for Joseph. "Joseph is a fruitful bough, a fruitful bough by a well; his branches run over the wall" (v. 22). This is a poetic allusion to a people who would multiply and spread out all over. After all, Joseph's sons were ultimately to give rise to a great nation and a great company of nations. Israel therefore foresaw them as a great colonizing people. He also conveyed the blessings of heaven above and of the deep that lies beneath. This implies great mineral wealth (blessings of the deep) as well as blessings of weather that would provide great agricultural wealth (blessings of heaven above).
But were these fabulous promises ever fulfilled for the descendants of Ephraim and Manasseh? The very authenticity of your Bible as the word of God stands or falls on that point!

After they left Egypt, the tribes of Israel lived for centuries in the Middle Eastern territory that God had promised. There is no record of Ephraim and Manasseh ever becoming a great nation and company of nations prior to Israel's captivity. They never became a blessing to all the nations of the world before they went into Assyrian captivity in the eighth century before Christ. Clearly, the fulfillment of the promises that God made to Abraham and reconfirmed to his descendants did not occur before ten-tribed Israel disappeared from the pages of your Bible and then from the pages of secular history.

The Birthright Promises Are Fulfilled

Anciently, God made remarkable promises to Abraham and his descendants. We have already seen that the northern ten tribes were uprooted from their homes and that they ultimately migrated into northwestern Europe. What became of the fulfillment of the promises to Abraham?

Look at the remarkable way in which God has intervened in history to accomplish His purpose and to fulfill His word.
Seven prophetic times 2,520 years went by from the time of Samaria's fall and Israel's captivity in 721bc. This brings us to 1800ad and the time when, according to scripture, Abraham's descendants would begin coming into possession of the birthright promises. The remarkable story that unfolded in the history of the English-speaking people after 1800 is astounding.

To fully understand what happened and to put it into perspective, let us briefly look at the history of Europe. By the close of the 11th century after Christ, most of the European migrations were completed and nations were mostly in the areas in which we find them today. The Israelites had arrived, in waves of migration extending over centuries, in the new lands that they were destined to inherit. After all, God had anciently told Jacob that his descendants would spread abroad to the north, the west, the east, and the south (Genesis 28:14).

Throughout the ten centuries from Rome's collapse until the 15th century, Europe was totally dominated by the Catholic church and was in the throes of poverty, ignorance and warfare. Much of this period has traditionally been called the "Dark Ages" by historians. In the last half of the 15th century, three milestone events took place. The first was the fall of Constantinople to the Turks in 1453. This brought an influx of scholars and Greek manuscripts of the New Testament into Western Europe. Secondly, in 1456, Johannes Gutenberg perfected the use of moveable type and the printing industry was born. This made possible the widespread diffusion of knowledge. In 1492, Christopher Columbus sighted land, thus beginning the unbroken connection between Europe and the new world of the Americas.

At this same time, England finally emerged from the internal strife of the War of the Roses. At last a stable government emerged, under the Tudor dynasty of Henry VII. Over the next century a remarkable transformation began to occur in England. Literacy spread, Catholic control was overthrown, and the tiny island nation began to develop into a sea-power.
The year 1588 was a benchmark in England's history. Spain had set out to conquer England and restore it to the fold of the Catholic church. In pursuance of this goal, a vast Armada set sail from Spain. Shattered by storm winds off the coast of England, the Armada was defeated and little England was saved.

Notice what Sir Winston Churchill, in his History of the English-Speaking Peoples, wrote. "But to the English people as a whole the defeat of the Armada came as a miracle. For 30 years the shadow of Spanish power had darkened the political scene. A wave of religious emotion filled men's minds. One of the medals struck to commemorate the victory bears the inscription 'Afflavit Deus et dissipantur' 'God blew and they were scattered.' Elizabeth and her seamen knew how true this was" (vol. II, p. 131).

This miraculous victory guaranteed that England would not come back under the domination of the Papacy, and it set the stage for future religious freedom in England. An awareness of God's role in English history fueled a newfound interest in the Bible, resulting in the translation and widespread dissemination of the Bible during the reign of Queen Elizabeth's successor, King James I.
Throughout the 16th and 17th centuries, English sailors and explorers set out across the globe. This marked the beginnings of England as a sea power and set the stage for future commercial and economic greatness.

Still, when 1800 came, England and her former American colonies, the fledgling United States, possessed only a small portion of the world's land and wealth. In Europe, Napoleon was attempting to put together a vast continental empire with France at its head. Instead of that effort being successful, however, something altogether different occurred.

Over the following decades, England emerged in possession of the vast British Empire. It was the largest that the world had ever seen. Over one quarter of the world's land and people were under the British flag by the end of the 19th century. The United States, in 1800 still clinging to the eastern seacoast, had completely spanned the North American continent within five decades. The most powerful company of nations, the British Empire, and the greatest single nation, the United States, emerged right on schedule. The year 1800 marked the time when the 2,520 years of withholding the birthright concluded.

 

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British Israelism variant

Main article: British Israelism
British Israelism (also known as 'Anglo-Israelism') is the theory that people of Western European descent, especially Britain and the United States, are descended from the lost tribes of Israel. Adherents argue that the deported Israelites became Scythians / Cimmerians who are ancestors of the Celts / Anglo-Saxons of Western Europe.[46] The theory arose in England, whence it spread to the United States.[47] During the 20th Century, British Israelism was promoted by Herbert W. Armstrong, founder of the Worldwide Church of God.[48] Armstrong argued that this theory provided a 'key' to understanding biblical prophecy, and that he was called to proclaim these prophecies to the 'lost tribes' of Israel before the coming of the 'end-times'.[49] The Worldwide Church of God no longer teaches the theory,[50] but some offshoot churches such as the Philadelphia Church of God, the United Church of God, and the Living Church of God continue to teach it even though British Israelism is inconsistent with the findings of modern genetics.

Cultist, junk theology.

 

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Future Deliverance and Restoration

The prophet Ezekiel speaks of a future time when Israel will be regathered after the return of the Messiah in power and glory. "'The Gentiles shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity, because they were unfaithful to Me… According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I have dealt with them, and hidden My face from them.' Therefore thus says the Lord God, 'Now I will bring back the captives of Jacob, and have mercy on the whole house of Israel…then they shall know that I am the Lord their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their own land, and left none of them captive any longer'" (Ezekiel 39:23–28).

Isaiah also looked forward to that time when God would again choose Israel and restore them to their own land (Isaiah 14:1). God would give them rest from their sorrows, their fears, and the hard bondage they had experienced (v. 3). Israel would be regathered from captivity and would "blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit" (27:6). They would begin to rebuild the old ruined cities which had lain desolate and deserted for a period of years (61:4). Our people, after the coming punishment of the Tribulation has finally brought them to repentance, will be regathered from the nations of their future captivity. God inspired Ezekiel to describe the true national conversion of Israel which will follow. This will be a prelude to the conversion of the whole world. "I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you… I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them" (36:25–27).

Christ will have returned and the saints will have been resurrected to rule and reign with Him (Revelation 20:6). Again, we see in a number of places that ancient King David will be among those resurrected and he will actually be the direct ruler over regathered Israel (Ezekiel 37:24). Each of the 12 Apostles will be directly ruling over one of the 12 tribes (Luke 22:29–30).

At this glorious time, when God's Kingdom will rule over all nations with Christ governing directly from Jerusalem, "'The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, the lion shall eat straw like the ox, and dust shall be the serpent's food. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,' says the Lord" (Isaiah 65:25).
Yet before this prophesied time of peace, the peoples of the United States and Great Britain will have endured a time of great trial. God's punishment on these nations will come swiftly and amaze the whole world. Only those who have turned fully to God will be spared. The nations will be shaken, and moved to a genuine repentance and a return to God unprecedented in modern times (Ezekiel 36:24–32).
There are two ways to learn our lessons in this life, the easy way or the hard way. Our nations as a whole appear destined to learn their lessons the hard way.
What about you, personally? Will you heed the warnings contained in this booklet, which come directly from God's word? Or, will you have to learn your lessons by hard experience?

We can show you the way to escape this coming holocaust if you are willing. You must be willing not merely to believe in God and in His Son, Jesus Christ, but to do what God commands. You must be willing to seek God in a way you have never done before! You must be willing to "come out" of this modern Babylon its ideas and practices, its false religions and philosophies and devote yourself to earnestly study and to "live by every word of God" (Luke 4:4).

The choice is yours to make! May God help you to choose wisely and rightly.

Excerpted from the below

http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/booklets/the-united-states-and-great-britain-in-prophecy?

 

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British Israelism variant

Main article: British Israelism
British Israelism (also known as 'Anglo-Israelism') is the theory that people of Western European descent, especially Britain and the United States, are descended from the lost tribes of Israel. Adherents argue that the deported Israelites became Scythians / Cimmerians who are ancestors of the Celts / Anglo-Saxons of Western Europe.[46] The theory arose in England, whence it spread to the United States.[47] During the 20th Century, British Israelism was promoted by Herbert W. Armstrong, founder of the Worldwide Church of God.[48] Armstrong argued that this theory provided a 'key' to understanding biblical prophecy, and that he was called to proclaim these prophecies to the 'lost tribes' of Israel before the coming of the 'end-times'.[49] The Worldwide Church of God no longer teaches the theory,[50] but some offshoot churches such as the Philadelphia Church of God, the United Church of God, and the Living Church of God continue to teach it even though British Israelism is inconsistent with the findings of modern genetics.

Cultist, junk theology.

Just because some will use the truth to try and promote hate and such,dosn't make said truth false,just ask yourself how the greatest nation in the history of mankind cannot be in the Bible,fact of the matter is, it is................

 

[Stormcrow]

My copy-and-paste posts are much shorter than yours and they are to the point. And the point remains: British-American "Israelism" was, is, and will always be junk theology. Herbert Armstrong was a cult-leader and a notoriously false prophet.

http://hwarmstrong.com/prophet-1.htm

 

[Stormcrow]

just ask yourself how the greatest nation in the history of mankind cannot be in the Bible,fact of the matter is, it is

No, it isn't.

 

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No, it isn't.

So when did the 10 tribes join up again with the other 2 ?

 

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After 70 years of Babylonian captivity. James knew where they were:

James, a bond-servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes who are dispersed abroad: Greetings. James 1:1 (NASB)

 

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After 70 years of Babylonian captivity. James knew where they were:

James, a bond-servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes who are dispersed abroad: Greetings. James 1:1 (NASB)

The northern ten tribes never returned from their captivity! Settled in an area hundreds of miles from where the Jews were taken more than a century later, the ten tribes of Israel remained completely separate and distinct from the Jews.

The book of James was written between 65-69 A.D., in Jerusalem. This was just prior to the fall of Jerusalem to the Roman general Titus, and the scattering of the Jews from Jerusalem. So it is important to notice that it is addressed not just to the tribes of the House of Judah, and the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, but to all of the tribes, including the ten tribes that made up the "House of Israel". Those ten tribes of the the House of Israel were scattered prior to 722 B.C by the Assyrians, and were not part of the captivity of the House of Judah [called Jews], in Babylon.

The book of James is written to the twelve tribes. These twelve tribes came from the twelve sons of Jacob. Jacob was the grandson of Abraham, through Isaac, and Jacob's name was changed by God to "Israel". While in captivity in Egypt the family of Jacob, or Israel grew into a nation, and all the families of Israel became known as the children of Israel. And in due time, as God had prophesied to Abraham, his family came out of Egypt as a nation.

While in the wilderness, Moses had all the families separated into their individual tribes, and established their own individual banners to identify themselves personally. Though each of the tribes was allocated their own lands in the promised land, the tribe of Levi was established as the priestly tribe and was scattered amongst all the other tribes. Yet because of Joseph's birthright, a double portion was given to him, and given to both of Joseph's sons, Ephraim and Manasseh.

These tribes conquered their promised land, and lived under the rule of the Judges from about 1440 B.C. until the monarch was set up by Samuel the prophet, when Samuel anointed Saul as the king. After Saul's rule came king David and then his son Solomon. When Solomon died, the kingdom of the twelve tribes called Israel was split into two separate nations, called "Houses".

These houses were the "House of Israel", which was made up of the ten tribes to the north, and the "House of Judah", which at a later time in Babylon became known as "Jews". Each of these two nations had their own line of kings, rule of law, and God dealt with each of them separately.

God used the prophet Hosea to tell the people of the children of Israel that not only would the two nations be separated, and form two nations, but He would divorce one of the nations or houses, and stay married to the other. The example [ensample] was given through the marriage of the prophet Hosea to a daughter of whoredoms named Gomer, and they had three children. The first child was named "Jezreel", and the name of this son was used to tell the kingdom of the "House of Israel" [not the Jews], of the prophecy of God's divorcement to them.

This name of Jezreel had two meanings in the Hebrew tongue. The name is prophetic of the "coming judgment and future mercy".
The knowledge of the "House of Judah" is quite common knowledge to most Christians, however the House of Israel is cloudy and unknown to them. The prophet Hosea gives us the knowledge of where these tribes are in the end times, and what they will be known by in Hosea 1:10.

Hosea 1:10 "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, `Ye are not my people,' there it shall be said unto them, `Ye are the sons of the living God.' "

We know that the "House of Judah" is not as the sands of the sea, for most of their people are either sheltered by the United States, or in their tiny nation called "Israel" today. But these ten tribes have grown to a number that we simply can't count. It is in the places that they are located, not in that tiny nation of Israel, but wherever they are, Hosea is telling us exactly what they will be identified as. "Ye are the sons of the living God." The "living God" is Jesus Christ who arose from the dead on the third day and and ascended into Heaven. Those that identify with Christ are called "Christians". Hosea is telling us that the "House of Israel" will call their nations "Christians Nations"

 

[Stormcrow]

Those ten tribes of the the House of Israel were scattered prior to 722 B.C by the Assyrians, and were not part of the captivity of the House of Judah [called Jews], in Babylon.

I think you'd better check your facts: Assyria fell to Babylon before Judah did, and the captives taken by Assyria became Babylon's captives.

In the days of Pekah king of Israel, Tiglath-pileser king of Assyria came and captured Ijon and Abel-beth-maacah and Janoah and Kedesh and Hazor and Gilead and Galilee, all the land of Naphtali; and he carried them captive to Assyria. 2 Kings 15:29 (NASB)

Then the king of Assyria carried Israel away into exile to Assyria, and put them in Halah and on the Habor, the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes, 2 Kings 18:11 (NASB)

In 605 BC, the Babylonians and Medes defeated the Egyptians and Assyrians at Carchemish, bringing an end to Assyria as an independent political entity, although it was to remain a geo-political region and colonised province until the late 7th Century AD.

Assyria was ruled by Babylon from 605 BC until 539 BC, and in a twist of fate, Nabonidus the last king of Babylon was himself an Assyrian from Harran; however apart from plans to dedicate religious temples in that city, Nabonidus showed little interest in rebuilding Assyria.

After this, it was ruled by the Persian Achaemenid Empire (as Athura) from 539 BC to 330 BC (see Achaemenid Assyria).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria

Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he sent a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put it in writing, saying: Ezra 1:1 (NASB)

~'Whoever there is among you of all His people, may his God be with him! Let him go up to Jerusalem which is in Judah and rebuild the house of the LORD, the God of Israel; He is the God who is in Jerusalem. ~'Every survivor, at whatever place he may live, let the men of that place support him with silver and gold, with goods and cattle, together with a freewill offering for the house of God which is in Jerusalem.'" Ezra 1:3-4 (NASB)

Those who had been part of the ten tribes of the northern kingdom were taken captive by Assyria. They were held in Assyrian lands as captives when Babylon inherited them as spoils for its conquest of Assyria. When the Persians conquered Babylon, they inherited the children of the captives of the ten tribes from its conquest of Babylonian territories. And here is that prophecy in Jeremiah fulfilled in Ezra:

"Then I Myself will gather the remnant of My flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and bring them back to their pasture, and they will be fruitful and multiply. Jeremiah 23:3 (NASB)

"Therefore behold, the days are coming," declares the LORD, "when they will no longer say, 'As the LORD lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of Egypt,' but, 'As the LORD lives, who brought up and led back the descendants of the household of Israel from the north land and from all the countries where I had driven them.' Then they will live on their own soil." Jeremiah 23:7-8 (NASB)

This was fulfilled by the Persian king Cyrus, as stated by the writer of Ezra.

Those facts are stubborn things.

 

[Stormcrow]

Hosea 1:10 "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, `Ye are not my people,' there it shall be said unto them, `Ye are the sons of the living God.' "

We know that the "House of Judah" is not as the sands of the sea, for most of their people are either sheltered by the United States, or in their tiny nation called "Israel" today. But these ten tribes have grown to a number that we simply can't count. It is in the places that they are located, not in that tiny nation of Israel, but wherever they are, Hosea is telling us exactly what they will be identified as. "Ye are the sons of the living God." The "living God" is Jesus Christ who arose from the dead on the third day and and ascended into Heaven. Those that identify with Christ are called "Christians". Hosea is telling us that the "House of Israel" will call their nations "Christians Nations"

The prophecy you cited from Hosea 1:10 was fulfilled by Christ as Paul tells us:

What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As He says also in Hosea: "I will call them My people, who were not My people, And her beloved, who was not beloved." "And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them, 'You are not My people,' There they shall be called sons of the living God."

Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, The remnant will be saved. For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, Because the LORD will make a short work upon the earth." And as Isaiah said before: "Unless the LORD of Sabaoth had left us a seed, We would have become like Sodom, And we would have been made like Gomorrah."

What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone. As it is written: "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." Romans 9:22-33 (NKJV)

Hosea 1:10 is a prophecy of the Gentiles becoming joint-heirs with the children of Israel in the promise of the gospel. It has nothing to do with "lost tribes of Israel" coming to America.

Paul's words should put these silly assertions to rest once and for all.

 

[jasoncran]

After 70 years of Babylonian captivity. James knew where they were:

James, a bond-servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes who are dispersed abroad: Greetings. James 1:1 (NASB)

come on know dont tell him that. it will ruin the futurist fun, nevermind they dance around what a levite is in christ when i show them that a levite cant be saved and then be a priest like the kohen were.hmm

 

[Stormcrow]

it will ruin the futurist fun

Futurism depends on the continued ignorance of the church about what God's Word really says to survive. For example, I was a futurist most of my Christian walk (almost 40 years!) and had never once been shown the connection between II Chronicles 36:15-20, Matthew 10:16-23, Matthew 21:33-46 (Isaiah 5:1-7) and Matthew 23:29-38!

Many people think Jesus was the first prophet to raise the dead. Nope. Elijah did it first (1 Kings 17:17-24!). Many people think Jesus was the first to feed a multitude of people with a little bit of food. Nope. Elisha did it first (2 Kings 4:42-44!). The works Jesus did were to remind the Jews of the works God had done through the messengers He had sent them in the past, and that Jesus...

• would be treated no differently than they were and
• the children of Israel would pay the ultimate price for the sins of their leadership!

Everything Jesus did attested to His divine nature, office, and authority culminating in the judgment of Jerusalem in 70 AD, just as the Father had condemned the city and its people almost 700 years earlier! The church does not teach this despite the absolute clarity of the Bible in this regard. Therefore, one can only conclude that the church is ignorant of these facts and passes that ignorance on to those whom it presumes to "teach."

Futurism distorts and denies the Word of God and - in so doing - distorts and denies the gospel of Christ.

/rant.

 

[jasoncran]

its the futurists here that dont know that.i know others that are aware of that.

im not because i read the ot first and learned it enough to know.

 

[King James]

Lost tribe theories especially concerning England and U.S.A. are to keep people off the track of America being the future Babylon of Jeremiah and Isaiah and the Mystery Babylon of Revelations with England as its Mother. It is also for white racists to not discount christianity for it origins in hebrew culture.

 

[jasoncran]

jerusalem was bablyon not america. america has no city on seven hills where the Lord was slain nor have we killed the saints.

 

[King James]

jerusalem was bablyon not america. america has no city on seven hills where the Lord was slain nor have we killed the saints.

Babylon ruling over the 7 hills. 7 continents. The whole world is the meaning.

 

[jasoncran]

uh no, that isnt.
http://www.preteristarchive.com/BibleStudies/ApocalypseCommentaries/Babylon/index.html


that isnt the case.

 

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Lost tribe theories especially concerning England and U.S.A. are to keep people off the track of America being the future Babylon of Jeremiah and Isaiah and the Mystery Babylon of Revelations with England as its Mother. It is also for white racists to not discount christianity for it origins in hebrew culture.

America is not Babylon........America is the most blessed nation in the history of mankind,ask yourself why........All one has to do is read the promises God gave to Abraham......As for it being racist,only when people twist the truth.....