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Transgenderism: Its Consequences

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The specific tactic you have introduced, in your attempt to defend Regressive values, is nothing new. I've encountered it before.

Are you presenting extremes? Well, so can I:

http://www.columbian.com/news/2012/sep/16/transgender-woman-in-fight-to-use-restrooms/

The person of focus in my posted link was a man attempting to use the restroom of his choice in a state in which the interpretive committee of the state's anti-discrimination laws issued a directive to businesses allowing trannys to use the restrooms of their choice.

You have presented a "false dilemma ." Your link suggests a difficulty with applying biblical standards to society where no such difficulty need exist.

That isn't much of a counterargument, unless you would be comfortable with her walking into a men's bathroom looking like that. Where unisex bathrooms exist, that's certainly the preferable answer, but forcing people to use the bathroom that matches their biological gender solves nothing. It's not a matter of putting on a wig if you've been taking testosterone. That will increase strength and muscle size. If a woman is not going to be comfortable with a transgender woman using the bathroom, she's unlikely to be comfortable with a transgender man either.

The burden on the public remains no matter what, and I don't think the answer is telling people to stay home so that nobody else has to be inconvenienced by their existence. I have no idea how my link has anything to do with biblical standards--it's perfectly legitimate to say that in an unfallen world, these issues would not arise, but that doesn't mean ignoring all aspects of the problem that complicate matters.

Your purpose of course is to put the burden of this individual's action on the 99+% of the rest of America's population. How do you justify such an action even though such an action will create greater evils than it can potentially solve?

Because as a woman, I would be more uncomfortable with a transgender man using the women's bathroom than transgender woman. You may see such a person as a woman pretending to be a man, but that makes no difference if they could overpower you. Hormone therapy will make a biological male weaker and a biological woman stronger than they would otherwise have been. I don't think this is likely to be an issue since I don't see them as more dangerous than anyone else, but insisting that transgender men use women's bathrooms seems more insane and ignorant to me than the alternative. I'm not ignoring 99% of the population by being aware that more is involved in transgenderism than a good makeup artist.

You are attempting, I believe, to create a no-win situation arising from your supposed necessity of choosing one of two specif choices in a specific scenario. You are apparently attempting to discredit the Christian worldview. Is that the only reason you post on this site?

What, do you actually think you are going to post on this site and succeed in somehow discrediting the Christian worldview and its defense of biblical standards? If so, then you should reconsider.

Your last breath is hunting you; it will find you, and then where will you be?

Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

How about Matt. 7:1-2? Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Nothing in my post was an attack on Christianity. It's quite possible to disapprove of transgenderism on religious grounds while still being able to discuss its ramifications in a mature and compassionate fashion. Nobody else in this thread seems to have any problem doing so, so you do not get to write off a reply as "Regressive," toss around derogatory language like "tranny" and then start lecturing about biblical standards. I've read the Gospel quite recently. I know what's acceptable and what isn't. I haven't changed my status because I'm barely Episcopalian just yet, much less evangelical, not because I'm out to discredit anything aside from perhaps the ridiculous, idolatrous conflation of religion and conservative capitalism in this country.
 
If trans people are not meant to be trans but then why does God give them those feelings?
There is a disorder called Apotemnophilia. With this sickness, adults and children have an extraordinary compulsion to have a healthy limb removed so that they can feel "whole." So, for instance, a person with two perfectly fine limbs will literally feel like a one-limned person in a two-limned body. The existence of a compulsion does not justify following through with the compulsion or concluding the compulsion is natural and healthy and therefore appropriate.

We must determine that which is healthy and not healthy from that which is healthy; not vice-versa.
 
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