Trump deports Iraqi Christians!

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  1. th1b.taylor

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    Do you frame all issues this way, communist vs. God?
     
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    I make no claim to the Godly side of this exchange.
     
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    Only when that is what's happening. I'll give you one thing, you do not just agree with the Alt Left on these forums sometimes, you are consistent and steadfast. As if you truly believe that garbage out of the Pits of Hell.
     
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    YOU may study semantics; 99.99% of the other people in the world do not and that is whom that article is directed towards. "His Dragnet" has a negative connotation to them (and me) in the way it is used in the headline and that is how it is seen. Step out from behind that educational lens that you view things thru and look at it through everyday eyes......it will give you a whole new perspective.
     
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    So you're not even pretending any more, ok!
     
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    Mr. Taylor, I frame the issue you are speaking of as Socialism vs. Capitalism. In the extreme they are communism vs. oligarchy, or if you prefer Democracy vs. Autocracy. I don't equate Capitalism with God.
     
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    I see no cause for pretense.
     
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    Capitalism is the only Government where you will find unrestrained Worship of God because of the freedom. Hike your rear end down to Argentina and stay for five years. A. it will cost your dad much less of the paycheck he is trying to bank as much of as possible to the benefit of your mother and yourself and B. You will return with a great loive for this nation and it's form of government as well as seeing that without God's blessing, this could never be. But until you have had some experience with Rulers from the Socialist, I call Communist, governments, do not argue nor debate those that have. It is not an intelligent, neither is it logical nor is it a defensible position and I could give a flying flip less what the Children think. As per you, my youngest is ten years older than you and I do not listen to his advise. Both of you have much growing and Life Experience to gain yet but none of it will matter a single wit until you stop the detestable to God practice of studying sermons and not reading the Word of God to know him. Men err and some of them, many, lie, God does not. I never want some idiot to follow me, they will go straight to Hell for that. If that's what I wanted I would have taken the two million up front of the ten million I was offered for sixty percent of my next ten years earnings if I followed their advice and let them hire Studio Artists to give me that polished look.
     
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    Well, you're right so stop pretending to follow God when, by your own admission you study sermons, the words of men and maybe a woman or two, here and there. That is not a study to know God and to Fellowship with Him. And no Fellowship with God, there will never be a Heaven for you!

    And to the Mods, I did not condemn him, he is doing that himself, I'
    m certain able to fall under the same curse most of the people in the Church and on these forums will fall under except I refuse to return there no matter how many forums I am banned from.
     
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    PZ ignored me but that's okay, my sweetie will bring me a bowl seasoned with Cyan pepper and garlic from the shaker. And feeling abused, I refuse to share.
     
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    What bleeding heart issue? Why do you apply made up things to me, and ask me to answer for them?
     
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    I do no more than to seek what is best for you and every person I come across. I.e. you are not a follower of Jesus, by your own admission but rather you are a follower of a man or men because you do not read the scriptures ro know God ut search for Him through the words a man has spoken of him, you told us this.

    In any discussion I urge everyone not to believe me but instead to be like the Brereans and to, please, test everything I say against the scriptures. Any Preacher or teacher can take you to Hell but the scriptures will educate you and take you to Heaven. It is much the same about life as it is with the Abortion issue, the wrong position on either will see he soul of man in Hell. (Gen 9:6)

    In strings here you have posted messages in strings concerning the President, with his name in the title and the article's title and you have demanded the subject has nothing to do with President Trump, in spite of the truth of the title of the string and the News Article both listing the President being listed in both titles. Why do you, just like a couple of extreme leftists, speak to me as a fool and tell me lies? It is not me you offend, you offend God with that behavior and youngster, as the scriptures teach, it is a fearful thing to find oneself in the hands of te God of Wrath. (Heb. 10:31)
     
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    You don't understand. I'm not disputing that the headline may carry negative connotations, I'm disputing that it carries undue negative inferences. Let's remember that connotations are not denotations.

    Semantics are not that difficult. Basically, there is a Truth that God has established which all are subject to. It is Love others as you would want to be loved. This rule contains both the objective and subjective points of view held together as one. That means that there are two points of view and a single middle. Every good journalist knows this. By the way, this necessarily means that we reap what we sow upon others.

    So there are those who voted against Donald Trump because they did not want to see him do what he said he would do, and there are those who voted for Donald Trump because they wanted him to do what he said he would do, and of course various degrees in between. Again, there are two sides to an issue and the semantics reverse so that what one side sees as good the other side sees as bad.

    Vanity is a force to reckon with here which works both ends against the middle. If the headline had said, "Trump dragnet is working to deport criminals", every Donald Trump supporter would approve since that is what they voted for. Whereas an anti-Trump voter might say something like, "what butt-kiss, as if criminals weren't being deported before Donald Trump". The journalist has to consider the facts on both sides and determine what is the middle or unbiased position between two opposite points of view.

    In this case, the story is not just about Donald Trump doing what he said he would do. The story is about some who voted for him, and how they are now reaping what they sowed. I therefore think the headline is a fair and accurate pretext for the story.
     
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    Mr. Taylor, I never claimed nor admitted that I was not a follower of Jesus, who was a loving servant to all men. I've read the scriptures my whole life.
     
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    The headline and the article are lying deception because what you lay out for a good reporter's requirements is true and this article and the headline are sensationalism by the Alt-Left. And if your reporter were expressing just the facts, the information, critical to the article would be found in the first two paragraphs because this intelligent reporter will know that any item of in the News Paper or on-line News service, most readers do not get past the first two Paragraphs before they are not interested and move their gaze over to the next headline.
     
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    But you have said, perhaps in this string, not checking, that instead of reading the Bible, the very Word of the Holy God, you study sermons. As a Believer, I, like Reba, Knotical and a few others here, Passionately Love God and want to know as much of the truth as possible, that is not found in the sermons of men, it is located in the Scriptures He left for us to read, it is a love letter from Genesis through The Revelation.
     
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