Bible Study Unity of the Spirit

[for_his_glory]

Unity means the fact or state of being one in agreement or in harmony as one Lord, one faith and one baptism, Ephesians 4:5, as it is all Gods Spirit in agreement with each action his Spirit performs or commands of us as we are born again by His word and Spirit, John 3:5. It’s all Gods Spirit manifested in three different forms for the purpose of his ministry as God can take on many different forms for us to hear him speak to us and bring us into that unity that is one

The Bible teaches that there is only one God. (Isaiah 43:10, Isaiah 44:6-8, Isaiah 45:22, 1Peter 1:2)

The Bible teaches that there is one who is called Jesus and is identified as being God. (John 1:1-3; 14-18, John 20:28-29, 1 John 1:1-4; 5:20, Philippians 2:5-8, Revelation 1:17-18, Revelation 22:12-20)

The Bible teaches that there is one who is called the Holy Spirit and is identified as being God. (John 14:16-17, John 15:26, John 16:7-15, Acts 5:3-4, Acts 13:2, 1 Corinthians 12:4-18, Hebrews 9:14, Hebrews 10:15-18)

1Corinthians 1:9, 10 we know for a surety that God is trustworthy as we have fellowship with his son Jesus Christ and it is by grace measured out to each of us as a gift we can not earn as it is free to us through the love of God that makes us one in the unity of Gods Spirit. There should be no division among the brethren as we now have the mind of Christ through Gods Spirit that teaches us all things and brings us into all understanding, John 14:26.

The spoken word of God is our foundation of faith as it is the substance of things hope for, the evidence of things not seen, Hebrews 11:1. No one has ever seen God as he is Spirit, John 4:24, but it is that Spirit made flesh to dwell among us whom is his son Jesus Christ that even though we ourselves have never seen him physically, but know him through Gods word as his witness testifies of his glory, John 1:14, that we too can know him and have hope in that same glory as Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever.

 

[Squeaky]

Did Jesus lie to us? Did Paul lie to us?
Jesus said the Father is the only true God. Paul said for us there is only one God the Father.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

[1Co 8:5-6
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live].

 

[ezra]

Psalm 133
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;

3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

 

[for_his_glory]

Did Jesus lie to us? Did Paul lie to us?
Jesus said the Father is the only true God. Paul said for us there is only one God the Father.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

[1Co 8:5-6
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live].

Have you ever studied the Trinity? Do you know what Deity is? Did you even take the time to study the scriptures I gave in the OP?
The Christian Godhead as one God in three persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. God is trinity in unity as it's all God's Spirit that coexist in all three.

 

[Squeaky]

Have you ever studied the Trinity? Do you know what Deity is? Did you even take the time to study the scriptures I gave in the OP?
The Christian Godhead as one God in three persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. God is trinity in unity as it's all God's Spirit that coexist in all three.

I said
I have for 40 years and it is a strong delusion.

STRONG DELUSIONS



II Th 2:7-13

7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

9The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

10and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

12that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,

2 Cor 11:14-15

14And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

II Th 2:4-5

4who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

Eph 5:11-17

11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

12For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.

13But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light.

14Therefore He says: "Awake, you who sleep, arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light."

15See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise,

16redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

17Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is.

John 14:15-21

15"If you love Me, keep My commandments.

16"And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever--

17"the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

18"I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

19"A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also.

20"At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.

21"He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."

John 14:23-26

23Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.

24"He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.

25"These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.

26"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

2 Cor 5:5

5Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.

Eph 6:5-8

5Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ;

6not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart,

7with good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men,

8knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free.

Phil 1:15-18

15Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from good will:

16The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains;

17but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel.

18What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.

Eph 6:5-8

5Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ;

6not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart,

7with good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men,

8knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free.

(NKJ)

James 3:1-2

1My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.

2For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.

2 Cor 13:5-6

5Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-- unless indeed you are disqualified.

6But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.

1 Cor 9:27

27But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

Titus 1:16

16They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

1 Tim 2:8-14

8I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting;

9in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing,

10but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.

11Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.

12And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

13For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.

Col 2:16-23

16So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,

17which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

18Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

19and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.

20Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations--

21"Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,"

22which all concern things which perish with the using-- according to the commandments and doctrines of men?

23These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.

(NKJ)



XXX Are you delusional??? Do you think that if you keep one part of the Word that gives you an excuse to sin against other parts??

The key to the truth is and comes from a love of the Word(verses) that one cant find in the carnal mind. Without this love of the truth(verses) one will find many delusions that they will hold as doctrine, and they will be wrong. Do you think that being rich is a blessing? Do you think that being full now is a blessing?

 

[ezrider]

Psalm 133
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;

3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

Now if you would go and read Matthew 5:1-12 you will see where the Lord commanded this blessing.

 

[for_his_glory]

I said
I have for 40 years and it is a strong delusion.

STRONG DELUSIONS



II Th 2:7-13

7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

9The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

10and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

12that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,

2 Cor 11:14-15

14And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

II Th 2:4-5

4who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

Eph 5:11-17

11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

12For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.

13But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light.

14Therefore He says: "Awake, you who sleep, arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light."

15See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise,

16redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

17Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is.

John 14:15-21

15"If you love Me, keep My commandments.

16"And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever--

17"the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

18"I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

19"A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also.

20"At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.

21"He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."

John 14:23-26

23Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.

24"He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.

25"These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.

26"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

2 Cor 5:5

5Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.

Eph 6:5-8

5Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ;

6not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart,

7with good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men,

8knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free.

Phil 1:15-18

15Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from good will:

16The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains;

17but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel.

18What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.

Eph 6:5-8

5Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ;

6not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart,

7with good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men,

8knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free.

(NKJ)

James 3:1-2

1My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.

2For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.

2 Cor 13:5-6

5Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-- unless indeed you are disqualified.

6But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.

1 Cor 9:27

27But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

Titus 1:16

16They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

1 Tim 2:8-14

8I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting;

9in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing,

10but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.

11Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.

12And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

13For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.

Col 2:16-23

16So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,

17which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

18Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

19and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.

20Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations--

21"Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,"

22which all concern things which perish with the using-- according to the commandments and doctrines of men?

23These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.

(NKJ)



XXX Are you delusional??? Do you think that if you keep one part of the Word that gives you an excuse to sin against other parts??

The key to the truth is and comes from a love of the Word(verses) that one cant find in the carnal mind. Without this love of the truth(verses) one will find many delusions that they will hold as doctrine, and they will be wrong. Do you think that being rich is a blessing? Do you think that being full now is a blessing?

So, you are saying anyone who believes in the trinity and the Deity of Christ is delusional and no truth is found in them? And there you go again with a laundry list of scripture that has nothing to do with the unity we have centered in Christ who is a part of the Godhead.

Being rich is a blessing if you are meaning in a monetary way if one works hard to achieve it in an honest Godly way as there are many that you can be a blessing to in helping others. Not sure what you mean by being full, but if one is full of knowledge and understanding given by the Holy Spirit they are blessed for they have not gained with a carnal mind, but that of a Spiritual mind of Christ through the Spiritual rebirth Jesus taught in John 3:5-7.

 

[for_his_glory]

Now if you would go and read Matthew 5:1-12 you will see where the Lord commanded this blessing.

There are actually nine blessings that are even one blessing given in those verses as what Jesus spoke there brings us all in the unity of God's grace as we are one in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit that binds us together in His love.

 

[Squeaky]

So, you are saying anyone who believes in the trinity and the Deity of Christ is delusional and no truth is found in them? And there you go again with a laundry list of scripture that has nothing to do with the unity we have centered in Christ who is a part of the Godhead.

Being rich is a blessing if you are meaning in a monetary way if one works hard to achieve it in an honest Godly way as there are many that you can be a blessing to in helping others. Not sure what you mean by being full, but if one is full of knowledge and understanding given by the Holy Spirit they are blessed for they have not gained with a carnal mind, but that of a Spiritual mind of Christ through the Spiritual rebirth Jesus taught in John 3:5-7.

I said
Doesn't anyone rely on the Word of God(verses) as the foundation of their beliefs? Do you know the rules God set down for a believer to go by? A true believer is not allowed to think beyond what is written and they are not allowed to add one thing to the verses or take one thing away from the verses.

[1Co 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.

[Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

 

[for_his_glory]

I said
Doesn't anyone rely on the Word of God(verses) as the foundation of their beliefs? Do you know the rules God set down for a believer to go by? A true believer is not allowed to think beyond what is written and they are not allowed to add one thing to the verses or take one thing away from the verses.

[1Co 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.

[Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

For someone who says the OT is no longer needed and needs to be discarded can never understand that of what Jesus has already taught about Himself in the OT and NT even when they are presented the scriptures and refute them as not being truth. Please show me where I have added to or taken away from the word in what I have posted and please only use the scriptures I have given in the OP for your evidence that I am in error of the word of God as I do not need your laundry list that has nothing to do with this thread.

 

[Squeaky]

For someone who says the OT is no longer needed and needs to be discarded can never understand that of what Jesus has already taught about Himself in the OT and NT even when they are presented the scriptures and refute them as not being truth. Please show me where I have added to or taken away from the word in what I have posted and please only use the scriptures I have given in the OP for your evidence that I am in error of the word of God as I do not need your laundry list that has nothing to do with this thread.

I said
Is the word trinity or deity written in the bible anywhere? Is the words God the Son, or God the Holy Spirit written anywhere in the bible? Now Jesus told us the Father is the only true God. Even Paul told us the only God for us is the Father.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

[1Co 8:5-6
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live].

 

[for_his_glory]

I said
Is the word trinity or deity written in the bible anywhere? Is the words God the Son, or God the Holy Spirit written anywhere in the bible? Now Jesus told us the Father is the only true God. Even Paul told us the only God for us is the Father.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

[1Co 8:5-6
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live].

Yes, the Father is only the one true God. Just because the English word trinity and deity are not found written in scripture the definition is well written in many verses through out the Bible as I already posted in the OP of what Jesus spoke of Himself.

John 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Who do you think that light was?

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Who was made flesh being God's word?

Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Who is it that is the arm of God?

It's all Gods Spirit that coexist in Christ and the Holy Spirit as being in unity that is all God's Spirit. It's that same Spirit that indwells us as God teaches us His word.

 

[Squeaky]

Yes, the Father is only the one true God. Just because the English word trinity and deity are not found written in scripture the definition is well written in many verses through out the Bible as I already posted in the OP of what Jesus spoke of Himself.

John 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Who do you think that light was?

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Who was made flesh being God's word?

Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Who is it that is the arm of God?

It's all Gods Spirit that coexist in Christ and the Holy Spirit as being in unity that is all God's Spirit. It's that same Spirit that indwells us as God teaches us His word.

I Said

The KJV was taken from all these versions. The 1611 KJV was the one who added "He" in place of "IT". The He was added to give the Word authority. God is neither male nor female and we call Him a "He". The Holy Spirit is neither male nor female and we call Him a "He". He is a Spiritual title of authority. And the KJV wanted to give the Word(verses) the same title of authority. It was never meant to say that Jesus is the Word. The Word came through Jesus. And the Word can control flesh or become flesh.



Tyndale 1534:

Joh 1:1 In the beginnynge was the worde and the worde was with God: and the worde was God. 2 The same was in the beginnynge with God. 3 All thinges were made by it and with out it was made nothinge that was made. 4 In it was lyfe and the lyfe was ye lyght of men



Bishops 1568:

Joh 1:1 In the begynnyng was the worde, & the worde was with God: and that worde was God. 2 The same was in the begynnyng with God. 3 All thynges were made by it: and without it, was made nothyng that was made. 4 In it was lyfe, and the lyfe was the lyght of men,



Geneva 1587:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that Word was God. 2 This same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made. 4 In it was life, and that life was the light of men.



And now our modern Concordant Literal Version:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was toward God, and God was the word. " 2 This was in the beginning toward God. 3 All came into being through it, and apart from it not even one thing came into being which has come into being." 4 In it was life, and the life was the light of men."



Its easy to prove Jesus is not the Word of God. The Word came through Jesus from God.



John 1:17-18

17For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

18No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

(NKJ)



John 12:48-50

48"He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-- the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.

49"For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.

50"And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak."

(NKJ)



Mark 13:23

23"But take heed; see, I have told you all things beforehand.

(NKJ)



Even the old testament says the same thing.



[Deu 18:18-19

18 'I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.

19 'And it shall be [that] whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require [it] of him.

 

[for_his_glory]

Does it truly matter if we use "He" or "it" or any other of the many names God is called by. It makes no difference and does not take away from the fact who God is as a Spirit and the unity there is between Father, Son and Holy Spirit as being all God's Spirit.

 

[Squeaky]

Does it truly matter if we use "He" or "it" or any other of the many names God is called by. It makes no difference and does not take away from the fact who God is as a Spirit and the unity there is between Father, Son and Holy Spirit as being all God's Spirit.

I said
It makes a huge difference. The trinity goes off on tangents even to the point of saying Jesus was in the old testament. And He wasn't. Jesus wasn't begotten(first time on earth) until the new testament. The use the deity in the wrong context. Satan even had deity. Which is superior to man but subservient to God. Jesus was created in the image of the righteousness of God. Satan was created in the image of the wrath of God.

 

[for_his_glory]

I said
It makes a huge difference. The trinity goes off on tangents even to the point of saying Jesus was in the old testament. And He wasn't. Jesus wasn't begotten(first time on earth) until the new testament. The use the deity in the wrong context. Satan even had deity. Which is superior to man but subservient to God. Jesus was created in the image of the righteousness of God. Satan was created in the image of the wrath of God.

I don't know what else to tell you as you either believe the full context of all of scripture (OT and NT) or none of scripture as one can not cherry pick one verse to support their theories. You have a good day.

 

[Squeaky]

I don't know what else to tell you as you either believe the full context of all of scripture (OT and NT) or none of scripture as one can not cherry pick one verse to support their theories. You have a good day.

 

[Squeaky]

But I do accept all the scriptures. Even this one. Do you accept the fact that everyone who came before Jesus are thieves and robbers? Or that Jesus made the old testament obsolete. Or that Jesus changed the law and annulled the former commandment.

[Jhn 10:1, 8
1 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. ...
8 "All who [ever] came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

And this one.

[Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new [covenant]," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

And this one.
[Heb 7:12, 18
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ...
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

 

[for_his_glory]

Please show me the scripture where Jesus actually says the OT and the laws and prophets are obsolete as Matthew 5:17-20 and Matthew 22:37-40 says differently. The unity of Jew and Gentile now being one body in Christ, Galatians 3:24-29, through a better covenant of grace through the fulfillment of the Temple sacrifice only, that Jesus is that fulfillment and now sits at the right hand of God making intercession for us. We still have to follow the moral laws that God established with Moses on Mt Sinai that are written in the OT.

Noahic (Noah) Commandments are seven commandments first given to Adam by God before the flood and brought to remembrance by God to Noah after the flood, which are binding on both Jew and Gentile. The seven make up the first parts of the ten that God gave to Moses on Mt Sinai in Exodus 20. Below is a comparison list of the seven and the full ten which are all a part of the 613 laws given to Moses as some were for the Hebrews pertaining to the rituals of the Temple, sacrifices, festivals, Torah, Kohanim and Levites, the King and the Nazarite and then there are the existing moral laws (commandments) for all, Jew and Gentile to follow. Christ did not come to destroy all the laws, but to fulfill the parts of the Temple and sacrifices, Matthew 5:17-20.

Noahic Laws:
Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
To establish courts of justice.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.

Mt. Sinai Laws:
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.

Part of the ten laws broken down to various commands within one law:
Other gods and idols are as one not to worship, but broke down into two commands
Remember the Sabbath was added to the ten commandments by God as a remembrance of all God did in six days (Gods timing) and rested on the seventh, Genesis 2:1-3; Matthew 12:1-13
To establish courts of justice was only given to Noah for the new generations to come after the flood
Honor your father and mother was not given to Noah, but was added to the ten commandments by God as the generations grew
Not to covet was added to the ten commandments by God, but broke down into seven commands as your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.

Our unity of brotherhood and sisterhood lays in the greatest commandment of love.

 

[stovebolts]

Squeaky,
This is a reminder to you that we are not a community of debate, and this forum is a growth forum, not a debate forum.

Our statement of faith affirms the Trinity and we have a Terms of Service agreement that you have violated term 2.4 many times in this thread.

Please adhere to the TOS and be respectful in the appropriate forums when posting rebuttles to our SOF.

Thank you.

Jeff