Very Soon Now, It will Be 'ALL' Over! Where Will You Be Found??

[Elijah674]

Isa. 65

[17] For, behold, [[I create new heavens and a new earth]]: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. (compare Obadiah 1:16 + Mal. 4:1-4)
[18] But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
[19] And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
[20] There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
[21] And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
[22] They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
[23] They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.
[24] And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
[25] The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.


Isa 66

[22] For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
[23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
[24] And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.


2 Thess. 2

[6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. (it took church + rome to execute Christ & His own)
[8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:


(take note here! at the Second Coming the wicked will all be d-e-a-d! the only ones on earth alive will be satan & his angels. but note the next verse!)

[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


And 1 Thess. 4:15 finds what also takes place when Christ Comes the Second time!

[13] But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. (got that? these other are not resurrected until the executional judgement is past, that of 1000 years! see 1 Cor. 6:2-3 for what the saved will be doing.)
[14] For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
[15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
[18] Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

(and the wicked dead which were slain at Christ’s 2nd Coming are to stay dead until we see their judge/meant over with & then to die their second death. Rev. 20: 4-10!)


Rev. 21

[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
[2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
[3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
[4] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
[5] And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
[6] And he said unto me, It is done. (FINISHED!) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
[7] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

--Elijah

 

[Keith]

The New Testament is full of events that are explained as the fulfillment of prophecy. It is ease to look at the event and understand the prophecy. It is usually much more difficult to look at the prophecy and predict how and when it will be fulfilled. We should be very suspicious of anyone who claims to do so.

 

[Elijah674]

The New Testament is full of events that are explained as the fulfillment of prophecy. It is ease to look at the event and understand the prophecy. It is usually much more difficult to look at the prophecy and predict how and when it will be fulfilled. We should be very suspicious of anyone who claims to do so.

There is no date setting suggested by me!! but it seems that some are not children of the day, Inspiration has it told this way...
1Thes.5

[1] But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
[2] For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
[3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

[4] But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that [that day should overtake you as a thief].
[5] Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
[6] Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

 

[Stormcrow]

Very Soon Now, It will Be 'ALL' Over!

Funny. The apostles were writing the same thing 2,000 years ago:

[Jesus] has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Hebrews 9:26b (ESV)

The end of all things is at hand... 1 Peter 4:7a (ESV)

Why should we accept your word over theirs, Eli?

 

[Elijah674]

Re: Very Soon Now, It will Be 'ALL' Over! Where Will You Be Found??

Originally Posted by Keith
The New Testament is full of events that are explained as the fulfillment of prophecy. It is ease to look at the event and understand the prophecy. It is usually much more difficult to look at the prophecy and predict how and when it will be fulfilled. We should be very suspicious of anyone who claims to do so.
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--Elijah here:
There is no date setting suggested by me!! but it seems that some are not children of the day, Inspiration has it told this way...
1Thes.5

[1] But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
[2] For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
[3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

[4] But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that [that day should overtake you as a thief].
[5] Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
[6] Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
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Me again: In Matt. 24 21 we see the prophecies of Matt. 24 just about all repeated for the second & last time. (as documented in Eccl. 3:15) 70 AD is again to be seen in Eze. 9's repeat. Nevermind the Vain arguments OK? just listen &take it as you so desire.

The point is Matt. 24:21 on...
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, [[no, nor ever shall be]].
[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and [[shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect]].
[25] Behold, I have told you before.
[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

USA & the whole Earth will flock to anyone shewing great signs and wonders! and deceive the very elect?? If it were possible finds that most do not put their Trust in the thus sayeth the WORD OF CHRIST, but in feelings, noise, miracles, and tongues?? (false ones at least)

And verse 21 surely has us entering this time period. So if so? next up comes satan & his crew allowed by God to hit home runs for his deceived ones, who he has already in the vast majority!

--Elijah

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[Stormcrow]

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, [[no, nor ever shall be]].

Those same words are used here:

And because of all your abominations I will do with you what I have never yet done, and the like of which I will never do again. Ezekiel 5:9 (ESV)

And here:

“...And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. Daniel 12:1 (ESV)

And here:

there is spread upon the mountains a great and powerful people; their like has never been before, nor will be again after them through the years of all generations. Joel 2:2 (ESV)

Every one of those passages - including Matt. 24:21 - refers specifically to the judgment of Jerusalem. So with the end of the Old Covenant "world order" in their sight, tell us again why we should believe you and not the apostles???

 

[Elijah674]

Re: Very Soon Now, It will Be 'ALL' Over! Where Will You Be Found??

Originally Posted by Keith
The New Testament is full of events that are explained as the fulfillment of prophecy. It is ease to look at the event and understand the prophecy. It is usually much more difficult to look at the prophecy and predict how and when it will be fulfilled. We should be very suspicious of anyone who claims to do so.
________




--Elijah here:
There is no date setting suggested by me!! but it seems that some are not children of the day, Inspiration has it told this way...
1Thes.5

[1] But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
[2] For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
[3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

[4] But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that [that day should overtake you as a thief].
[5] Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
[6] Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
_____

Me again: In Matt. 24 21 we see the prophecies of Matt. 24 just about all repeated for the second & last time. (as documented in Eccl. 3:15) 70 AD is again to be seen in Eze. 9's repeat. Nevermind the Vain arguments OK? just listen &take it as you so desire.

The point is Matt. 24:21 on...
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, [[no, nor ever shall be]].
[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and [[shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect]].
[25] Behold, I have told you before.
[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

USA & the whole Earth will flock to anyone shewing great signs and wonders! and deceive the very elect?? If it were possible finds that most do not put their Trust in the thus sayeth the WORD OF CHRIST, but in feelings, noise, miracles, and tongues?? (false ones at least)

And verse 21 surely has us entering this time period. So if so? next up comes satan & his crew allowed by God to hit home runs for his deceived ones, who he has already in the vast majority!

--Elijah

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Just wondering if any are seeing Matt. 24:21 on coming about with even New Casts + forum claims that are of doubtful caution? And the Lord's verses of Matt. 10...

[26] Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
[27] What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

About everything that could be seen in the Rev. 17:1-5 groups surely are coming out of the so called closets, even by New Casters. And some forums surely are legit with the Lord bringing this forward! Even note Matt. 10:20.

And the prophecy for that Truth is just shortly before Christ RETURNS BODILY!
2 Thess. 2
[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
[8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9] Even him, [[whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,]]
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

SO: Keep both 'spiritual' eyes open!

--Elijah

 

[Stormcrow]

Part of Paul's defense before Felix...

having hope toward God, which they themselves also wait for, that there is about to be a rising again of the dead, both of righteous and unrighteous; Acts 24:15 (YLT)

Again, when every one of the apostles believed Christ's return, the resurrection, and the judgment of the living and dead were about to happen when they spoke and wrote these words, why should we accept your view that it should all happen "very soon now", Eli???