What if Adam had not sinned ?

[savedbygrace57]

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Have you ever wondered that if Adam would not have sinned, and lived a perfect sin free life, if He would have inherited eternal life ?


If Adam [Mankind] had remained unfallen, without transgression, then He nor men in him could have entered that Kingdom of Eternal Glory to which all believers in Christ were destined before the foundation Matt 25:

34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

2 tim 4:18

And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

At best, the life we had in Adam was earthly 1 cor 15:

46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

So if Adam would have continued perfect in the flesh and blood he was created in, He could not inherit the kingdom of God, prepared for the sheep from the foundation, remember, at his best, Adam was still flesh and blood..

hebrews 2 :

14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood [In Adam], he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

And scripture says this 1 cor 15:

50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

So Man at His best unfallen state in flesh and blood, cannot inherit the kingdom of God..

As Jesus said, except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God, even Adam, in His unfallen state needed to be born again if He was to inherit the Kingdom of Glory..

 

[Nick]

I'm sure someone would have eventually sinned, given our nature. Probably sooner rather than later.

 

[Elf]

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Have you ever wondered that if Adam would not have sinned, and lived a perfect sin free life, if He would have inherited eternal life ?

So another words if God changed His mind what would have happened?

One cannot figure out something like this, already written in eternity by a God who is immutable.

If Adam [Mankind] had remained unfallen, without transgression, then He nor men in him could have entered that Kingdom of Eternal Glory to which all believers in Christ were destined before the foundation Matt 25:

Keep in mind Matthew 25 was written in the pages after the fall, it cannot be considered into something which does not exist.

 

[Andrew]

I think it's pretty clear that Adam was living in the eternal kingdom prior to the sin. The Lord was with him in the garden of Eden (paradise). He was naked, unashamed, and immortal. The sin brought with it death.
Death, in order to bring back to life, paved the road for salvation.
As much as I understand why Christians focus on salvation, the bottom line is that there is no need for salvation had sin not entered the world; the bottom line is that Satan is the reason for salvation because he is the one who led us astray and deceived us and caused the sin. It is Jesus Christ who took the keys to Death and Hell so that He would have dominion over all things.
If you take the devil out of the picture Adam would have never sinned and would have remained immortal in the garden.

 

[savedbygrace57]

andrew:

I think it's pretty clear that Adam was living in the eternal kingdom prior to the sin.

how so when scripture says flesh and blood cannot enter into Gods kingdom ?

1 cor 15:

50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Are you suggesting that adam was more than flesh and blood at his creation ? If so, we need scripture to verify it.

 

[savedbygrace57]

elf:

Keep in mind Matthew 25 was written in the pages after the fall

It was written after the fall, but what is written is in regards to a plan and purpose from eternity.

 

[savedbygrace57]

I'm sure someone would have eventually sinned, given our nature. Probably sooner rather than later.

If he would not have sinned, he was still but flesh and blood, and disqualifed to enter into Gods Kingdom. 1 cor 15:


50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

God did not make this rule after adam sinned, God is immutable and this has always been true.

 

[Elf]

elf:

Keep in mind Matthew 25 was written in the pages after the fall

It was written after the fall, but what is written is in regards to a plan and purpose from eternity.

Yes. By a God who is immutable.

 

[savedbygrace57]

elf:

Keep in mind Matthew 25 was written in the pages after the fall

It was written after the fall, but what is written is in regards to a plan and purpose from eternity.

Yes. By a God who is immutable.

Uh, Yeah He is immutable.

 

[archangel_300]

I'm sure someone would have eventually sinned, given our nature. Probably sooner rather than later.

If he would not have sinned, he was still but flesh and blood, and disqualifed to enter into Gods Kingdom. 1 cor 15:


50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

God did not make this rule after adam sinned, God is immutable and this has always been true.

Hmm... so are you saying that God created us in corruption?

 

[jasoncran]

he was aware that we would fall(adam) but adam was perfect and all creation was perfect before the entrance of sin.

 

[savedbygrace57]

he was aware that we would fall(adam) but adam was perfect and all creation was perfect before the entrance of sin.

Flesh and Blood cannot enter the Eternal Kingdom of God, Adam before He sinned and would He remained unfallen, was still no more than Flesh and Blood and hence not fit to enter into Gods Kingdom.

 

[savedbygrace57]

I'm sure someone would have eventually sinned, given our nature. Probably sooner rather than later.

If he would not have sinned, he was still but flesh and blood, and disqualifed to enter into Gods Kingdom. 1 cor 15:


50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

God did not make this rule after adam sinned, God is immutable and this has always been true.

Hmm... so are you saying that God created us in corruption?

He created adam corruptible did He not ?

 

[archangel_300]

Hmm... so are you saying that God created us in corruption?

He created adam corruptible did He not ?

No, there was no such thing as death before Adam sinned.
Everything that God created was "good" in His sight after He finished with creation.
The scriptures are written in the context after the fallen state of man.

I agree with Nick that one of us would have eventually brought sin into the universe.
God gave us free will and I'm sure we would have fallen sooner if not later.

 

[Sinthesis]

he was aware that we would fall(adam) but adam was perfect and all creation was perfect before the entrance of sin.

Don't let 'perfect' be the enemy of 'very good'.

 

[veteran]

One can speculate far outside God's Word, and all it will bring is confusion. What if's is not how we edify Christ, because all it does is seek to change the parameters given in God's Word of Truth.

 

[savedbygrace57]

vet:

One can speculate far outside God's Word,

They sure can, but i used Gods word to form my Judgment on the matter.

 

[savedbygrace57]

arch:

No, there was no such thing as death before Adam sinned.

my question was , did not God create Adam curruptible ?

 

[stovebolts]

According to the text, God created everything "Good" and when he was finished, it was "Very Good".

Good is not "perfect".

 

[savedbygrace57]

According to the text, God created everything "Good" and when he was finished, it was "Very Good".

Good is not "perfect".

Answer the question, did God create Adam corruptible or incorruptible, yes or no in your opinion ?