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StoveBolts said:
However, Montana did bring the wolves back for population control and the wolves are thriving. However, when they get the deer population down, where do you think the wolves will look for their next meal? Yeah, they will do what they did last time and go after the ranchers sheep and calves....


Man kills more deer then Wolves ten fold!
Wolves would never get the population down to that point where they would start killing ranchers sheep and calves .. if man would stop killing them as well! ( Deer)
Wolves only eat when hungry.. unlike man. The wolves would do a perfect job controling the deer population....... just like nature intended it. If man would just stay out of it. They always screw everything up.
 
John_O said:
jasoncran said:
without the evil sport of hunting many wildlife would die out to excessive breading ,and most hunters eat their kills, i dont hunt myself many of my coworkers do, and bring the kill to lunch and share

jason


Do hunters really care? It is ludicrous to believe that someone who actively sets out to kill a healthy animal for fun, trophy or profit really cares about wild animals specifically or nature in general. Photographs of smiling hunters posing with their dead victims hardly reflect the kind of “caring†that most normal people relate to They claim that their killing is done for humane and practical reasons, and that an untimely death by bullet or arrow is preferable to death from natural causes. All of this presumes that animals who are killed or wounded by human hunters, endure less fear, stress and pain than those animals dying from natural causes, including predation. It is a fact that hunters kill for the pleasure, the satisfaction and the boost it gives their fragile egos. This makes killing seem like an honorable pastime that others should strive to emulate

Hunters are notoriously intolerant of anyone who questions their so-called “ethics†or who dares to criticise their violent pastime. Anyone who opposes the killing of innocent animals by hunters is labeled a “bunny-Huggerâ€Â, “unrealisticâ€Â, “impracticalâ€Â, “emotionalâ€Â, “ignorant†even a “terrorist†if you happen to be an animal rightist Like I am. :thumb

In nature, when a predator takes down prey, they take down the old, sick, weak or injured.
This keeps the gene pool strong in the prey heards. The human predator wants to take down the big strong 10 point buck which actually hurts the prey species for generations to come!!
If not for laws they would kill everything in site So don't tell me hunters care.

What about the ( I hate the word) Sport hunters who kill big game, not to eat but just to hang a head on the wall. There the real cowards.

Hunters try to justify their violent pastime, but whatever they say to the contrary, hunting is the premeditated, cold-blooded killing of innocent animals. The object of the hunt is to kill animals. Hunters argue that it is not just about killing. They claim that the camaraderie, nature appreciation, exercise, nature education, and so-called conservation benefits are just as important a part of the hunt as the actual killing or attempted killing of the target animal. But most people can appreciate and learn about nature and also contribute to nature conservation efforts without having to kill animals, and by doing their shooting with a camera instead of a gun or bow.

If hunters are the “true†conservationists they claim to be, and really do care about animals, they would pursue every humane, non-lethal possibility or means of caring for wild animals and the environment. Instead, their solution to any perceived problem with animals is to reach for the gun. Why is it that hunters, as so-called conservationists, are interested only in those animals that are most attractive as trophies, most enjoyable to eat or most “challenging†to hunt? Conservation and the protection of wild animals must be funded from ethically acceptable sources,Wildlife and environment conservation must not be abandoned to an animal-unfriendly system that uses profit to justify the killing of healthy, defenseless animals. By allowing hunters to make the claim that they “pay for conservationâ€Â, human society is failing in its responsibility to wildlife. The fate of wild animals has literally been abandoned into the hands of killers. Do hunters fulfil the role of predator? Definitely not.

Hunters will not miss out on any opportunity to cover themselves in glory, even to the point of claiming the role of natural predator in those areas where natural predators have been eradicated or do not occur. But as so-called predator, the hunter selects only the finest specimens to kill.

That hunters have to go to ever-greater lengths to defend their actions to an increasingly critical, well-informed public, is encouraging.

funny i live near those hunters and you know what the state of florida pays them to kill the coyote a neusence animal, and some private ranchers do so as well, the coyote kills cows by hunting them packs and attanck them by either bitting them on the nose and continually attancking them or waiting for them to keel over by sepsis, look what do u propose biologist go out and euthanise them(deers,coyote, turkey and other seasonals animals)coyote is year round, but the others are in a season to allow them repopulate, culling them is a good idea its help keep them alive, and allows the hunters to benefit by hunting for food, try hunting for urself or eat their kill, and ull see as most military installations do this as way to maintain the animals in the areas within the training ranges, so areas have certain animals that cant be hunted, stop listening to peta or ascap, i'm not for animal cruelty, but i do like deer from time to time or wild boar, and such like.

btw i've never hunted in my life

jason
 
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funny i live near those hunters and you know what the state of florida pays them to kill the coyote a neusence animal, and some private ranchers do so as well, the coyote kills cows by hunting them packs and attanck them by either bitting them on the nose and continually attancking them or waiting for them to keel over by sepsis, look what do u propose biologist go out and euthanise them(deers,coyote, turkey and other seasonals animals)coyote is year round, but the others are in a season to allow them repopulate, culling them is a good idea its help keep them alive, and allows the hunters to benefit by hunting for food, try hunting for urself or eat their kill, and ull see as most military installations do this as way to maintain the animals in the areas within the training ranges, so areas have certain animals that cant be hunted, stop listening to peta or ascap, i'm not for animal cruelty, but i do like deer from time to time or wild boar, and such like.

btw i've never hunted in my life

jason[/quote]


You got to be kidding!! :screwloose :screwloose :biglol :biglol
 
what u insult me know cause i dont agree with u ever heard of animal overpopulation, look at the racoon a species not even native to the us brought here during the thirties and protected, dont know why, they are bold enough on to steal food out ur hand on a beach north of where i live, the aligator recently was allowed to be killed by hunters because the population needs to be culled

jason
 
jasoncran said:
what u insult me know cause i dont agree with u ever heard of animal overpopulation, look at the racoon a species not even native to the us brought here during the thirties and protected, dont know why, they are bold enough on to steal food out ur hand on a beach north of where i live, the aligator recently was allowed to be killed by hunters because the population needs to be culled

jason


You make sense Jason. The sentence structure is a little off. I have noticed this at times.

It's humane to control the animal populations that threaten us.
Though, f they aren't a threat or nuisance, I wouldn't like to see over-hunting cause extinction. I trust that state officials are doing a great job controlling the nuisance animals.
 
Fembot said:
jasoncran said:
what u insult me know cause i dont agree with u ever heard of animal overpopulation, look at the racoon a species not even native to the us brought here during the thirties and protected, dont know why, they are bold enough on to steal food out ur hand on a beach north of where i live, the aligator recently was allowed to be killed by hunters because the population needs to be culled

jason


You make sense Jason. The sentence structure is a little off. I have noticed this at times.

It's humane to control the animal populations that threaten us.
Though, if they aren't a threat or nuisance, I wouldn't like to see over-hunting cause extinction. I trust that state officials are doing a great job controlling the nuisance animals.
my syntax is bad because i write quickly sometimes, albeit too fast, and i also choose to ignore all the run on sentences, perhaps i should be more careful, i do need to bone up my english again, it easy to forget the rules once u stop using that.


they do control that by paying biologists to count the species being controlled, have u ever heard of the florida widlife commision, these people set the rules for the game wardens, and Florida and fish and wildlife control
 
Ok, sorry my last post about hunting.
florida widlife commision = biggest crooks in the world
I'm DONE!
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Some people say soccer is boring although I do enjoy it myself. Just wish they wouldn't cry so much!
 
John_O said:
Some people say soccer is boring although I do enjoy it myself. Just wish they wouldn't cry so much!

:lol Yeah, they do have a tendency to do that...but that is definitely my favourite sport of all time. It's harder for me to watch the American teams play, however, because they play at such a SLOOOOW PAAAAACE compared to the English & European leagues. :o
 
jasoncran said:
Fembot said:
jasoncran said:
what u insult me know cause i dont agree with u ever heard of animal overpopulation, look at the racoon a species not even native to the us brought here during the thirties and protected, dont know why, they are bold enough on to steal food out ur hand on a beach north of where i live, the aligator recently was allowed to be killed by hunters because the population needs to be culled

jason


You make sense Jason. The sentence structure is a little off. I have noticed this at times.

It's humane to control the animal populations that threaten us.
Though, if they aren't a threat or nuisance, I wouldn't like to see over-hunting cause extinction. I trust that state officials are doing a great job controlling the nuisance animals.
my syntax is bad because i write quickly sometimes, albeit too fast, and i also choose to ignore all the run on sentences, perhaps i should be more careful, i do need to bone up my english again, it easy to forget the rules once u stop using that.


they do control that by paying biologists to count the species being controlled, have u ever heard of the florida widlife commision, these people set the rules for the game wardens, and Florida and fish and wildlife control


Yes, I have heard of the Florida Wildlife Commission :lol
Florida has got some of the best wild life organizations. Marine Mammal Conservancy is one of them.
 
is a croquet, or polo on tv, i've played croquet, hard but defintely boring to watch, and polo is played in the u.s., shoot in my hometown, anyone everheard of the windsor polo club?

or this one for the hispanic nationalites jai alai, big in florida and cuba, and new orleans, its betted on just like horse racing or dog racing :mad an evil sport that one is
and i'm not too found of horse racing either
jason
 
fembot have u heard of the indian river lagoon i believe that organization u mentioned is involved in its restoration, ie the sea cows

now then :topictotopic
 
jasoncran said:
fembot have u heard of the indian river lagoon i believe that organization u mentioned is involved in its restoration, ie the sea cows

now then :topictotopic

Ok Jason...YOU brought it up. :lol
 
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