What is your purpose?

[Elijah674]

Gen. 3:15 finds the verbal God telling His creation the REQUIREMENT back from sin & death! Gen. 4:7 finds two mature (grown men) son's of Adam who had been OBEDIENT up to this time in their MATURE life. And The Lamb Sacrifice represented Christ by Faith! Heb. 11

Cain became MATURELY DIS/OBEDIENT by free choice in offering another a sacrifice that was his own (satan's) doings. [ONE LIKE sun stuff for the Godheads REQUIRED 7 th Day Sabbath!] God came in person to Cain & Spake DIRECTLY to him!!
(Like as in Acts 5's HOLY SPIRIT SPEAKING to two others, who DIRECTLY IN PERSON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT'S SHOWERING they sinned the sin against the Holy Ghost)

He was in FULL MATURITY & there was another (satan, serpent, devil) there also. God has a three way conversation. GOD SPEAKING IN PERSON to Cain, telling him what [[WAS REQUIRED]] in the Eternal Rev. 14:6 PLAN OF SALVATION, and even after dis/obeying, IF! IF! IF! he would [JUST DO THE OBEDIENT THING], he would still be accepted! And IF NOT, (and this was satan's FULL/FLEGGED CONVERT!) the SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST HAD BEEN COMMITTED, and he (Cain) would from time on, [DESIRE] satan! (or serve)

And yes, this is how I read the Gen. chapter's bottom/line! It is also of interest to me, (at least) that Adam & Eve were created in the likeness IMAGE of God. They could not create, yet they could pro/create! And take note of Eccl. 3:15!! And what was before Adam & Eve's FIRST SON??? So surely, 'i' see Luciffer as Their (Godhead) FIRST CREATION of angels. Also he had been faithful for a long time. And how painful it was for the Godhead to loose him, even knowing all of this in eternity. And what must Adam & Eve felt, loosing their first born son!

Also Gods purpose? (not satans men!) How long did heavens REBELLION LAST? I see around 120 years in duration until SETH the Son of God replacing Abel, who satan had his first convert execute. That was quite a head start! Even that shows me that God could use NONE of satans ways such as 2 Cor. 4:2 finds, along with all of his (satans) backbitting ways found in this 'threads' garbage!

And to shorten this up! In heavens rebellion, I see just a few that are reclaimed from Matt. 25:1 & Rev. 12's 1/3 finalling being tossed & in hell's FINISHED FATE! Obad. 1:16

And MANKIND?? Read Eccl. 3:15 for this number of REMNANT of all of the earth mass that had lived. A goodly number, but the BROADWAY was much. much larger. And all of this was by their own free choice. Again: just think about this thread subject & the author's many postings??

--Elijah

 

[Bazz1040]

Gen. 3:15 finds the verbal God telling His creation the REQUIREMENT back from sin & death! Gen. 4:7 finds two mature (grown men) son's of Adam who had been OBEDIENT up to this time in their MATURE life. And The Lamb Sacrifice represented Christ by Faith! Heb. 11

Cain became MATURELY DIS/OBEDIENT by free choice in offering another a sacrifice that was his own (satan's) doings. [ONE LIKE sun stuff for the Godheads REQUIRED 7 th Day Sabbath!] God came in person to Cain & Spake DIRECTLY to him!!
(Like as in Acts 5's HOLY SPIRIT SPEAKING to two others, who DIRECTLY IN PERSON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT'S SHOWERING they sinned the sin against the Holy Ghost)

He was in FULL MATURITY & there was another (satan, serpent, devil) there also. God has a three way conversation. GOD SPEAKING IN PERSON to Cain, telling him what [[WAS REQUIRED]] in the Eternal Rev. 14:6 PLAN OF SALVATION, and even after dis/obeying, IF! IF! IF! he would [JUST DO THE OBEDIENT THING], he would still be accepted! And IF NOT, (and this was satan's FULL/FLEGGED CONVERT!) the SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST HAD BEEN COMMITTED, and he (Cain) would from time on, [DESIRE] satan! (or serve)

And yes, this is how I read the Gen. chapter's bottom/line! It is also of interest to me, (at least) that Adam & Eve were created in the likeness IMAGE of God. They could not create, yet they could pro/create! And take note of Eccl. 3:15!! And what was before Adam & Eve's FIRST SON??? So surely, 'i' see Luciffer as Their (Godhead) FIRST CREATION of angels. Also he had been faithful for a long time. And how painful it was for the Godhead to loose him, even knowing all of this in eternity. And what must Adam & Eve felt, loosing their first born son!

Also Gods purpose? (not satans men!) How long did heavens REBELLION LAST? I see around 120 years in duration until SETH the Son of God replacing Abel, who satan had his first convert execute. That was quite a head start! Even that shows me that God could use NONE of satans ways such as 2 Cor. 4:2 finds, along with all of his (satans) backbitting ways found in this 'threads' garbage!

And to shorten this up! In heavens rebellion, I see just a few that are reclaimed from Matt. 25:1 & Rev. 12's 1/3 finalling being tossed & in hell's FINISHED FATE! Obad. 1:16

And MANKIND?? Read Eccl. 3:15 for this number of REMNANT of all of the earth mass that had lived. A goodly number, but the BROADWAY was much. much larger. And all of this was by their own free choice. Again: just think about this thread subject & the author's many postings??

--Elijah

I don't see how any of that is relevant to the topic.<O</O

 

[Bazz1040]

bazz, theres no evidence in the recorded bible that says he repented of his sins only that judas took his life and that was prophecied.

sure what he did was forgivable, but then why did the lord call it like this.
woe to whom the the son of man is betrayed?

woe implies judgment, and why then does the bible say he fell? he had to be there and then choose to walk way. if he repented its unlikely that the bible would say that by transgession he fell but rather that he fell and repented and died.

james was killed(no apostle replaced that we know of).

I did not say that Judas repented of his sin, though the Bible does say that after he came to his senses he was sorry for what he did and went out and hung himself. But my point though is that Jesus' death paid for all people's sins, even those that died before Jesus was born. This is where the second resurrection comes in.......these are the people (it also includes those who were born after Jesus was crucified, but did not repent) that will be in the second resurrection...including Judas.<O</O

 

[Bazz1040]

My purpose for the OP was to show that it is just as important to believe and know what the gospel is as much as in the one that brought the gospel. We unfortunately have Christians that truly are ignorant about God’s purpose for making human being as revealed in the Bible. Like I said before, worshiping God is not the purpose for man’s creation. But worshiping God is the result of what a grateful person does for what God has done, is doing and will do.

It is my desire that all Christians study the Bible for themselves and not just leave it up the pastor to tell them what the Bible say. We should study the Bible on a regular basis to see if we are being told is so. Deseption comes from asuming that what one is being told is the truth and not bother to chech the source.

<O</O
Jesus said many will be lead astray.....pay close attention to the word many.....not the few but the many that will be lead astray.
<O</O

Matthew 24:11 (ASV)
<SUP>11 </SUP>And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray.



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Be like the people of Berea

Acts 17:11 (GW)
<SUP>11 </SUP>The people of Berea were more open-minded than the people of Thessalonica. They were very willing to receive God's message, and every day they carefully examined the Scriptures to see if what Paul said was true.



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Thank God though that perfect understanding is not required for salvation, though we should be growing in spiritual understanding.<O</O

 

[Elijah674]

My purpose for the OP was to show that it is just as important to believe and know what the gospel is as much as in the one that brought the gospel. We unfortunately have Christians that truly are ignorant about God’s purpose for making human being as revealed in the Bible. Like I said before, worshiping God is not the purpose for man’s creation. But worshiping God is the result of what a grateful person does for what God has done, is doing and will do.

It is my desire that all Christians study the Bible for themselves and not just leave it up the pastor to tell them what the Bible say. We should study the Bible on a regular basis to see if we are being told is so. Deseption comes from asuming that what one is being told is the truth and not bother to chech the source.

<O</O
Jesus said many will be lead astray.....pay close attention to the word many.....not the few but the many that will be lead astray.
<O</O

Matthew 24:11 (ASV)
<SUP>11 </SUP>And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray.



<!--EndFragment-->
Be like the people of Berea

Acts 17:11 (GW)
<SUP>11 </SUP>The people of Berea were more open-minded than the people of Thessalonica. They were very willing to receive God's message, and every day they carefully examined the Scriptures to see if what Paul said was true.



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Thank God though that perfect understanding is not required for salvation, though we should be growing in spiritual understanding.<O</O

We should be doing what?? Then go back & re/read post 122 again.

--Elijah

 

[Bazz1040]

We should be doing what?? Then go back & re/read post 122 again.

--Elijah

In post 122 I said, I don't see how any of that is relevant to the topic. And my question now is, so what is you point?<O</O

 

[Dr Doughboy]

Hi Bazz1040, et al. Your post intrigued me- great responses. I am living and breathing the topic of meaning and purpose in life with my dissertation right now and just created a course on this topic. Praying 4 u all. Be blessed.