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[ Testimony ] When Narcissism "heals"

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I was 17 or 18 when I was first diagnosed with Narcissism (NPD). At that age, compassionate care, counseling, etc. can help tremendously. But...my people were "rinky dink middle class" (other peoples' words, not mine) and I was kind of homely, so I got drugs. Lots and lots of drugs...Klonopin, Ambien, Sonata, Adderall, antidepressants, mood stabilizers, "atypical" antipsychotics. By 19, I had twitched and tics (a weird form of tardive dyskinesia), a stiff gait ("thorazine shuffle"), and obvious brain damage. Apparently, the doctor had first estimated an IQ of 120, which is respectable, good enough for college-level work, but not really high. I was put in a private, for profit mental hospital and given heavy shock treatments and who knows what else. They kept me until my insurance ran out, took me off the insurance, turned my family against me, and discharged me. I was 20. I was drugged up, dead eyed, and I had maybe a 95 IQ.

For about 2 years, I lived in a small, southern college town, near my parents. Somehow, lots of people came to know that I was narcissistic. The counselors and shrinks encouraged people to "give me a hard time," in part because they knew I wasn't on the meds (the idea, apparently, was to "break" me, "wound" me, and then keep me "comfortably numb"). I was also expected to be dead by 23.

At 23,I tried going back to the city to finish a degree. I was hated there. Burned out, stupid. I looked 27, easy. I lost a lot of weight and turned weirdly pretty for some reason (looking back, I suspect some weird hormonal thing). I was attacked (bashed on the head with a pipe in the ghetto), almost jumped off a bridge, and found myself in a (supposedly "good") mental hospital. I was again heavily shocked, and this time only kept 5 days (state minimum).

At 24, I attacked my dad. Terrible, sinful, horrible thing to do. I was just...broken. Obviously brain damaged, sick and sickly, and I felt trapped. Stay home, go to a hospital where they'll once again hurt me. Couldn't work, had no real friends. My dad seemed to hate me, too. We had a confrontation, and I attacked him. Eventually, I got to go to Teen Challenge for 1 year, do community service, and get the whole thing dropped and record erased. I did it. Teen Challenge was great for me. I mean, it wasn't the ideal place for me, but...they were good to me, and they planted seeds.

I spent a year in a small-ish town out of state. I was socially isolated, traumatized, and miserable. I moved back home once the lease was up. There was, understandably, a lot of tension between my parents and me. I freaked out and sent emails to an ex-shrink. I was being harassed, the details of my treatment had been released to people around me...basically, I was considered a "trouble maker," so they put me through Hell.

This time around, my dad hired a good attorney. The ex-shrink wanted my head on a silver platter. I ended up wtih a (serious, class A) misdemeanor and a whole lotta probation time. I was arrested 3 years ago and barely bonded out. Once I got to the little apt. I was living in, it finally dawned on me: those Teen Challenge people are on to something. Get saved. I mustered up as much humility as I possibly could and said my own version of The Sinner's Prayer. I cried, felt better. Things heated up in my neighborhood, so I moved back in with my parents. They weren't exactly happy to have me, especially my mother.

1 year after I was arrested, I plead guilty to the misdemeanor. That was 2 years ago. I've been with the same counselor and shrink for a while now. Its a community/public mental health place. They deal with everything from relatively mild depression to people who live in group homes and have been discharged from the state mental hospital. Their opinion is...Bipolar I w/psychotic features. I was apparently sick for a long time, even before I went to college. This is the longest I've ever been properly treated and stable. NPD was an issue. It happens. I was a pretty, obviously queer kid from a working class, intellectual bohemian family. In the Bible Belt. As much as I used to blame my parents for everything, I realize now...sick communities create sick people. I did have problems from a young age, and I was always punished for them.

Now...well, the thing about NPD is that most pros won't actually talk to the NPD person about it. They'll put it in your records, tell other people (at least in my situation), but they won't address it with you, the patient ("client" as they say at the community mental health clinic). The first and only time a shrink addressed the issue with me was when my former shrink (she's moved) at the clinic read off my diagnoses: Bipolar I, OCD, and Narcissistic Traits. I should note that OCD is common with NPD. Anyway, she looked at me and...well, I said OK. I had narcissism. Maybe I still do. that was nearly 3 years ago now. She wrote me an Rx for Luvox (an antidepressant used mostly for OCD) and sent me on my way.

Now...its different. I'm different. I got saved 3 years ago, and now...well, I seem to have been healed of NPD. I'm also physically healthy and intelligent, which is miraculous. I get along well with my parents and most other people, too. The actual mental illness--the clinic people swear it's Bipolar I, not Schizophrenia--is still present, but I respond well to fairly standard treatment, no big deal there. I don't have OCD now. I now have "obsessive traits," which are (thank God) only an issue during a bad mood episode.

My current counselor sees hope for me. He's a Born Again Christian, masters of divinity, all that. He doesn't try to control me or anything, but I do get the sense that he wants to steer me towards a productive, engaged life. That's what I want, too.

I don't know...I don't know how NPD people are supposed to get better, the way many of us/them are treated by secular mental health people. The dogma on NPD changes over time. Back in the day, it was considered treatable with empathy and boundary setting. When I was diagnosed, it was seen as un-treatable; the best one could hope for was some insight, some empathy, treat the depression and OCD with periodic antidepressant Rx. Now the pendulum seems to be swinging back towards treatable w/ compassionate talk therapy, probably because now Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) is gaining popularity over Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT).

I don't think Jesus' plan for NPD "treatment" has changed. It would take a miracle for me to get saved. I got that miracle, thank God, and now I've been demonstrably transformed by Christ. Jesus tells all His children--perhaps especially those of us who have been given the NPD label--to die to self daily. Think more of the other person than you think of yourself. Turn the other cheek. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Secular shrinks and counselors change their methods, their outlook; they change with the trends, with the seasons. Jesus is the same now as he was 2,000 years ago.

I do take meds, of course. Not all psychiatric treatment is terrible. Not all counselors are vicious and domineering (but many are). I sometimes wonder how many brain cells I have, but then I think: God has done, is doing, and will do what is right. And then I calm down.

I will say that not being NPD seems to require the impossible: becoming a different person. Honestly, that's what appealed to me about Christianity, above and beyond anything else. Total and complete transformation. Its only fairly recently that I've come to see that I was a wretched, unrepentant sinner in desperate need of forgiveness and right relationship with God. Now, I can spot my pride, self-love, self-centeredness better. I care about other people, I think about what other people are going through. I pray for other people...even my enemies. I can see Sin and the ill effects of Sin. I can look back and say: why, yes, this is what sin does to people...what sin did to me. And that makes me appreciate Jesus. I sometimes think about Heaven, but mostly...mostly I think about here and now, and how Christian morality makes a huge difference in peoples' lives.

I'm definitely a work in progress. I think I may have to move in a few years, if possible. I don't know where, though, and right now...well, right now I enjoy living at home, and I get the sense that I'm finally learning how to be a normal, engaged, productive adult (no, really). My people love me and I love them and that alone is (yet another) miracle.

If you've made it this far...well, I'll wrap it up. Just remember, the next time you deal with a wretch, especially one with labels (junkie, NPD, Schizophrenic, loser, bum, queer, burn out, etc.), do what you can to make a difference, even if all you can do is pray for them (hopefully on a regular basis).

:)
 
Wow, that's quite a story. Which I can personally relate to. I also had a brain injury, to one of my frontal lobes which normally modulates self-control. I also have a serious misdemeanor, having threatened a former supervisor's family. I believe I only stopped short of physical violence due to my martial art training (sundome, "to stop an attack one-inch before contact"). Otherwise, I might have ended up one of those serial dudes.

The Lord showed me it wasn't really my fault, and that it was a necessary step in conquering my own narcissism. The ultimate narcissist is Satan, and as such makes promises that ultimately can never be fulfilled. So I gave my life to the Lord, and the rest is history.
 
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Thanks, KevinK. You're right; Satan is the ultimate narcissist. Trying to overthrow God is pretty hardcore. To a certain extent, though...all human beings do that, NPD-ers more so than others. We all push Christ off the throne of our lives, our hearts so we can have our own kingdom of self.

I'm glad you didn't get a felony. When I got saved 3 years ago, I was still NPD. I mean, I was a beat down, modified NPD-er, but...yeah. Jesus saves (No Jesus, No Change; Know Jesus, Know Change. catchy, huh?), even me (of course, valid question: why not me?).

How's your brain injury treating you? I can kinda sorta relate. I had so much shock and all the meds and all...anyway, I had straight up frontal lobe syndrome. Apparently, heavy shock is a lot like having a lobotomy, except in addition to frontal lobe damage, you get fried neurons all over. Fun times. The good news is...

...well, brain cells or no brain cells, I've recovered it seems. I even have memories returning to me, which is both good and...strange, I suppose. The way I see it...the mind and the brain are interrelated, but I don't think the brain is all there is to the human mind. Think about people who must have/had serious brain damage...Hunter S. Thompson, Courtney Love, any number of surprisingly smart junkies and "mental patients." Oh, and one of my favorites...Janet Frame. In the 50s, she was kept in a New Zealand mental hospital and shocked and shocked and shocked, all the time shocked, for being "schizophrenic." She was also a gifted writer. Some of her writing won an award the day before she was scheduled to be lobotomized. The hospital canceled the operation and eventually released her. I'm not the biggest fan of her writing, but I do find her story inspiring, especially when I get down about my own shock treatments.

The thing about NPD...well, in my case, it was NPD plus an underlying mental illness...when it heals, because that's how psychoanalysts think of it...NPD due to a scar or something, I dunno; lotsa methapors in psychoanalysis...anyway, when it heals, there's supposedly a "real self" in there somewhere. In my case, the "real self" is now growing and discovering the world...as a Christian. The world says "find yourself," etc., but God says "Find me," and then you discover who you really are, in Christ Jesus.

I'm rambling, as usual. I drank late nite coffee (bad idea, but its flavored...chocolate mint, 8 o clock coffee...my dad's been spoiling me), so I'm all kindsa verbose.

Thanks again.
 
How's your brain injury treating you?
Thanks, CE. Well...where do I even start with my TBI? Symptons started to cascade within months of the accident- Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Migraine headaches. And then the psych problems- nearly uncontrollable fits of anger (Kylo Ren had nothing on me), memory and cognitive problems, dual personalities. Triple doses of prescription opiates to control the pain. Went through withdrawal twice. Then my other life-changer, my out-of-body vision of Hell. Being born-again. And again, and again.
 
I hear ya on being Born Again (and again...and again...). I got for realsies saved 3 years ago, and I'd periodically say The Sinner's Prayer again, just to make sure I was saved. Childish, I know. To be fair...I was still very much out of touch w/ reality.

Anyway...I'm glad The Lord has moved in your life so mightily. Rx opiates..man oh man. I mean, some people need their pain killers, but it seems like...I dunno....sometimes it gets excessive. I read that some former pain management patients have turned to street heroin. Cheaper, apparently. Who knew?

What's weird to me about "mental illness..." well, the shrinks say it comes from your brain. That's where crazy lives, supposedly. But they rarely do brain scans. They diagnose based on observations, interviews, and your past records. If you have bona fide brain problems, they send you to a neurologist...and then its not "mental illness," its some kind of brain problem.

I hear ya on the brain injury probs. After hospital #1, all the pill popping (for some reason, I had an Rx for nearly the legal max of Adderall, plus Rx diet pills, plus Rx downers) plus the (involuntary) shock caught up with me all of a sudden. I even seemed to get older over night...and I was already prematurely aged. I was so obviously brain damaged...the shrink who shocked me said "it would take a miracle" for me to recover from what he did to me. Sadistic?!?! Seems to be fairly standard for shrinks (more so, I think, than for any other branch of medicine).

Rambling, again...I keep you up in prayer. Sometimes, I wonder...if The Lord wills that we recover from brain damage, but we're still (presumably) brain damaged...what does that mean, exactly? I guess it goes to...who are we, if there's more than the brain, and many of us (thank God) are blessed with what we need to function even w/ severe brain damage...

I bet I have more brain damage than you, lol. Seriously. I didn't get a brain scan until 23, before (and after) the last, final round of (involuntary) shock. I was stupid, but according to the brain scan...I was supposed to be a vegetable or dead. So, they said I had some kind of intelligence that doesn't require brain cells (or as many brain cells). I started with an IQ estimate of 120, went down to 95, up to 105-110 after round #2 of shock, and now...well, now, apparently, my IQ was "underestimated," because its apparently back up above 120. Shrinks, man...they're crazy.

But, yeah, I wonder: if I'm intelligent now, what would happen if God willed all my brain cells back into being? I like who I am now--its more and more who God made me to be, so that's always a good thing--but still...I wonder. Would I be more agitated, anxious, introspective? Would I earn a couple extra IQ points? Since I'm so Bipolar (apparently...), would my "issues" be harder to treat with meds, or more easily treated? Speaking of frontal lobes...I used to have a morbid obsession w/ lobtomies. Don't ask why, its just...it fascinated me, because the same operation (more or less) could have much, much different outcomes in different people/patients. Anyway...now and then, peoples' IQs would go up a bit after a lobotomy. Weird, huh? The reduction of agitation and tension could help intellectual performance. Of course, sometimes lobotomies turned people into vegetables, and sometimes other strange things happened, but...yeah. Brain cells...who needs 'em, anyway?

I've rambled way too long. Thanks for your post and ongoing encouragement.
 
I've had a high-power MRI, of course. The type of damage I sustained can not be resolved even with the most powerful of scanners. But the effects are very real. I'm in almost constant, excruciating pain. Every muscle hurts. Only 3x doses of opiates will suppress the pain just so I can even function. The amount I need to be effective is already too much. There's no safety window. I go through the early stages of withdrawal nearly every morning (been through complete W/D twice, cold turkey). I would probably buy street drugs if I knew how to get them. Maybe it's better that I don't. Will keep taking prayers, however.
 
I didn't mean to sound critical. If you need high dose opiates then...take high dose opiates. Gotta keep goin'. I don't think its just people on pain meds who turn to street drugs. Elizabeth Wurtzel (probably misspelled), who brought us Prozac Nation, wrote a book a while ago...basically, she asked her prescriber for a stimulant to help her depression. That's still done now and then. Anyway, her doc gave her Ritalin, she liked it a lot, couldn't keep getting Rx'd high doses, and switched to cocaine (they're apparently very similar). Predictably, she landed in rehab...and wrote a book about it (of course).

Anyway...my brain damage showed up pretty easily on whatever brain scans they had readily available in hospitals, circa 2008. It was/is rather severe. Part of the problem is that once, while I was in a (private, for priced, ripoff) mental hospital, they let me OD on Restoril, which is an older sleeping pill. They didn't treat the OD, and I was left w/ brain damage, on top of the shock treatment and everything. :-( Kinda lame. On the plus side, I'm now intelligent enough to pursue my goals, write well, be in society, all that. I figure God either gave me more brain cells, or returned the raw intelligence to me even w/ the brain damage. Now my current treatment ppl are even saying my IQ may have been "underestimated," which is crazy...

I'll definitely keep you up in prayer. Do sustained release pain meds not make the withdrawals any better? That's so crazy to me...waking up in a withdrawal state. Do they have medicinal marijuana where you live? Does your doc have a problem giving you the meds you need? I read somewhere that docs are all over the map w/ chronic pain...some of them treat it appropriately, some Rx to known addicts, some refuse to provide proper treatment. So strange...

Its crazy, you know...brain damage. I used to be obviously brain damaged. I mean, dead eyed, oafish, bad memory, tics and twitches...bad news. Now, I'm normal. I mean, people in the neighborhood insist that I'm "schizophrenic," but that's OK. What's so strange about it is...well, I assumed I'd be smart again, back when I was deep in my mess. Now I'm smart, I'm healthy, I'm saved, and...I'm completely different. And, apparently, part of being "completely different" involves being hardcore Bipolar I. God has a sense of humor...

I'll quit rambling. Oh, wait...do you think there are any other issues w/ your pain that might be making it worse? I'll quit being nosey, I'm promise, just...I read that a lot of people w/ chronic pain also have (understanbly) depression, anxiety, etc., and sometimes treating those additional problems can help the pain (I don't know if its because of the drugs used to treat the problems or because resolving the "issues" helps pain...).
 
I didn't mean to sound critical.
Didn't take it that way. Just adding to the thread.

Extended release drugs would be awesome...if I could get any. Oxycodone is hard enough to score at the pharmacy; Oxycontin (the ER form) is practically impossible. Too much street value, so it tends to "evaporate" from pharm safes.

I actually was on M.M. for a bried period. Had a CA marijuana card. Unfortunately, it had no effect on my migraines or fibromyalgia. Didn't even get a buzz; nothing. So discontinued. Had a whole Altoids can of the stuff left over, so I gave it to a friend for "disposition". He seemed very greatful.

Depression: yeah, get that sometimes. Fortunately, I respond well to treatment, and it only occurs sporadically. I didn't experience easing of any other symptoms while being treated for depression.

I have a tic, too, now that you mention it. For years didn't realize why, then someone mentioned it's another TBI symptom.

I've of course prayed for God to take my drug dependence away; in effect, that would mean taking the pain away, so I don't need the drugs. Thus far, He hasn't granted it. Of course, additional people praying for me could make all the difference. You guys helped me slip the cancer noose just a short time ago; no reason it couldn't work for TBI.
 
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Sorry things are so rough. I can see how MM might not be for everyone. Personally, it made me paranoid (or...more paranoid, lol).

I'm glad your other probs respond well to treatment. I didn't know tics happened in all sorts of brain injury/damage. Kinda makes sense, intuitively.

I'm beginning to think that my own life isn't going to be about getting a great job, having a family, any of that. I've been saved and transformed, yes, but...I don't know that Jesus has done this and is doing other things on my behalf so I can be like everybody else. I dunno. Maybe I'm just feeling pessimistic. Lots of people are unemployed...at least I have the soft landing of disability and my wonderful family. At this point, its going to be hard to enter the workforce at any level at which I can be self-supporting and continue in treatment. I have hope, I pray, but...there also has to be the realization that life isn't just about jobs and consumption (not that having a job and consuming are bad, lol, just...I think some of us don't fit in).

To be severely mentally ill to the point of being out of the economy is to be The Other. I'm blessed to have my people, that's for sure. They love me, I love them, and they've given me safety and shelter. Lots of "crazy" people...don't get that. We're just one group that most of society views as expendable, disposable...there are other groups, too.

I'm rambling. I just think about my options and...I dunno...a life close to my family, close(r) to Christ, pursuing meaning and morality...not all of us get to work, not all of us get to be "normal." It happens.
 
For 50 years I believed in nothing that wasn't scientifically "proven". Now I believe that anything... ANYTHING is possible through Jesus. God bless you and may your faith heal you.
 
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