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he hosted seder and channukah and attended both is a jew then? Ramadan is more the sid el fatir. its not just a meal its a thirty day fast of no eating during the hours of light and prayer must be done during shumah weekly. if Obama was celebrating that, we should have pics of him going to a prayer service on Friday. until you produce that, im not buying it. I have been around Ramadan twice to know what they do.
All I am going on are the articles, it says he celebrated Ramadan at the White House. We don't know if he went to a prayer service, they only let us see what they want us to.
 
TOG, in post #135 you said;

To which I, in post #139 replied;

And you want to twist what I said for some kind of faux defense coupled with a left wing reporter's interpretation of George Bushes religion?

I was neither twisting anything. You have been making unsubstantiated claims throughout this thread. But when I make a claim that you don't like, you point the finger and shout "UNSUBSTANTIATED!", as if you were totally innocent of that yourself. And it wasn't a left wing reporter's interpretation either. It was Bush's own words. Deborah linked to an article about it on FOX, which is hardly a liberal stronghold. That article stated:

The president also said that he prays to the same God as those with different religious beliefs.

"I do believe there is an almighty that is broad and big enough and loving enough that can encompass a lot of people," Bush said.

There you have it from a conservative source. If Obama says something (as I believe somebody quoted earlier) that implies that all faiths lead to the same God, then you say that proves he can't be a Christian. Shouldn't the same logic apply to Bush?

First of all, this string has nothing to do with GW and I find it to be in bad taste to attempt to hijack this thread and such,

It wasn't hijacking. Hijacking a thread is when you change the subject to something irrelevant to the original topic. What I said about G.W. Bush was very relevant to the topic being discussed. You and others here have spoken of dishonesty as if it were specific to Democrats, and especially to Obama. I was pointing out that dishonesty is common to all politicians, whether they be Republicans or Democrats or anything else. You and others have been talking as if Republicans were beyond reproach, and I chose those examples of Bush to show that that is not the case. It was relevant to the discussion.


irresponsible behavior, is not only not good Christianity, it fails the measure for adult behavior, rather, severely.

If pointing out the truth is childish, irresponsible and not good Christianity, then I guess I'm a childish, irresponsible and not very good Christian. So be it.

The TOG​
 
Has the Christian World reached the tipping point? Since mid-nineteen-sixty-four I have warned people of the danger the Christian and every Lost Man is facing, right now and have been, until, recently, considered and sometimes called an idiot. But we have been watching the beginning of the war I, both, as a Lost Man and as a Christian have been warning the world of it's approach.

The House of Saudi has financed this war since the fall of the Ottoman Empire and it is one of our most important allies? Mr. Barack Hussein Obama did not start this relationship but is he a product thereof? The King of Saudi Arabia, in the mid-eighties and I do not recall the exact year, promised the Sunni World there would be a Sunni Islamic President of the US in 2008 and in '08 a young man win no credentials but with seeming unlimited funding, raised, at least until he was 12, as a Sunni Islamist, was elected.

Since the attack on NYC, the World Trade Center, we, both the World and the US, should have been aware that a declaration of has existed against us. In the seventh and eighth centuries Islam was what we see growing in the Caliphate in the Middle East now. Shame on us for intentional stupidity, we, as a people, hate history. And Mrs C. C. Allen, teacher of Charles (Chuck) Swindol and of Bill Taylor, began each year with one statement of truth, "He that will not learn from history is doomed to relive the errors of the past."

This week the wake up clarion has sounded in Europe and being to sick for Church today I watch and in Paris the leaders of the Free World are the front line of the World Unification movement, guess who is not present? Will the people of the US of A finally wake up?
Heres some links bro, and all. This is real satanic (set-an) stuff yall and IT IS HAPPING and its happing NOW.
"obi-won, you are my only hope" Layah ep.4
in the same way obi is was tasked by "the force" to train Luke who helped turn darth vader to light again and destroyed the enemy, YHWH has chose us to be the LAST HOPE. we must stay strong and trust in YHWH YESHUA ALLWAYS in these dark times. Emanuel
More links will be added.
Read the signs devil AND God YHWH are speaking to you, can you disern the mass on tube, tellen you masonic XXX don't detect, flashing porn in childrens movies leading the young into disctruction, creeping in. masonic rocopheller Obama. DNA NO I SAY! God made my fruit let it be, SOON WE WILL BE RUNNING FREE. you betta get trained you betta get ready, fo CHRISTIANOS slaughterd, infinitity "infidelity" SCREAMING RUN RUN end up BEAMING, up and out HE COMES RAGEING INFIERIATED FOR OUR FATHER IS WEEPING FOR us, we bleeding.
 
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Heres some links bro, and all. This is real satanic (set-an) stuff yall and IT IS HAPPING and its happing NOW.
"obi-won, you are my only hope" Layah ep.4
in the same way obi is was tasked by "the force" to train Luke who helped turn darth vader to light again and destroyed the enemy, YHWH has chose us to be the LAST HOPE. we must stay strong and trust in YHWH YESHUA ALLWAYS in these dark times. Emanuel
More links will be added.
Read the signs devil AND God YHWH are speaking to you, can you disern the mass on tube, tellen you masonic XXX don't detect, flashing porn in childrens movies leading the young into disctruction, creeping in. masonic rocopheller Obama. DNA NO I SAY! God made my fruit let it be, SOON WE WILL BE RUNNING FREE. you betta get trained you betta get ready, fo CHRISTIANOS slaughterd, infinitity "infidelity" SCREAMING RUN RUN end up BEAMING, up and out HE COMES RAGEING INFIERIATED FOR OUR FATHER IS WEEPING FOR us, we bleeding.

Astrology and numerology, along with misquoted Scripture and implications that Scripture is mythical, is not what I base my views on.

The TOG​
 
All I am going on are the articles, it says he celebrated Ramadan at the White House. We don't know if he went to a prayer service, they only let us see what they want us to.
I know that, but some If I posted my positions on things, I might get skewered. the media left or right twist things to their bending. that is why I posted what I said.
 
I was neither twisting anything. You have been making unsubstantiated claims throughout this thread. But when I make a claim that you don't like, you point the finger and shout "UNSUBSTANTIATED!", as if you were totally innocent of that yourself.
TOG,
I might be wrong I recall admitting that I did not have links because my input came from a friend of the Arab persuasion and then you were kind enough to find an online link to the very point I had taken as truth from a friend I had learned to be an honest man. If you had intended you, shaky, assertion about a respected and honorable man of a country, not your own could you not provide links or other substantiation for your aggression? Thereby placing me on the defensive as I had expected to be.
 
Heres some links bro, and all. This is real satanic (set-an) stuff yall and IT IS HAPPING and its happing NOW.
"obi-won, you are my only hope" Layah ep.4
in the same way obi is was tasked by "the force" to train Luke who helped turn darth vader to light again and destroyed the enemy, YHWH has chose us to be the LAST HOPE. we must stay strong and trust in YHWH YESHUA ALLWAYS in these dark times. Emanuel
More links will be added.
Read the signs devil AND God YHWH are speaking to you, can you disern the mass on tube, tellen you masonic XXX don't detect, flashing porn in childrens movies leading the young into disctruction, creeping in. masonic rocopheller Obama. DNA NO I SAY! God made my fruit let it be, SOON WE WILL BE RUNNING FREE. you betta get trained you betta get ready, fo CHRISTIANOS slaughterd, infinitity "infidelity" SCREAMING RUN RUN end up BEAMING, up and out HE COMES RAGEING INFIERIATED FOR OUR FATHER IS WEEPING FOR us, we bleeding.
DUDE! I've lived long enough to love satirical truth but if most of this forum watches this you will have turned their heads inside out! Were the Holy Prophets not right, I can see the th contained in this as being. Most of us old foggies will not get this but, my man, you are a heavy hitter! May Yhwh use you in a mighty form with the youth of this time... May God bless.
 
Astrology and numerology, along with misquoted Scripture and implications that Scripture is mythical, is not what I base my views on.

The TOG​
Neither does he TOG, except I misunderstood. Maybe you two could communite and understand one another, bro.
 
DUDE! I've lived long enough to love satirical truth but if most of this forum watches this you will have turned their heads inside out! Were the Holy Prophets not right, I can see the th contained in this as being. Most of us old foggies will not get this but, my man, you are a heavy hitter! May Yhwh use you in a mighty form with the youth of this time... May God bless.
Thank you, I get to the point Haha.
 
Astrology and numerology, along with misquoted Scripture and implications that Scripture is mythical, is not what I base my views on.

The TOG​
This video may not be perfect but makes some good points and has some major truth, its wise to look and discern what IS and what IS NOT, as you do. I suggest looking into some other "conspiracy theories" and see how the world is preparing to take us all down and slaughter us just as scripture foretells.
 
This video may not be perfect but makes some good points and has some major truth, its wise to look and discern what IS and what IS NOT, as you do. I suggest looking into some other "conspiracy theories" and see how the world is preparing to take us all down and slaughter us just as scripture foretells.
Here here, careful, most of us have studied nothing for the past fifty or more years. Anyhow, ain't you heard, prophecy is so boring!
 
Can you handle these?

the cure?

(best)
don't mind the name because she accredits YHWH. see past your judgments and see WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING to us and this pore sad world.
This stuff is serious.
 
Can you handle these?

the cure?

(best)
don't mind the name because she accredits YHWH. see past your judgments and see WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING to us and this pore sad world.
This stuff is serious.
The first one does remind me of the world at large and their constant search inside the trash can. You have a good but deep sense of humor.
 
I try not to keep to darkness, there is to much of that, Gods gunna throw a flaming rock soon (after a few more things) and all the evil will be destroyed and then we will all live happily perfectly forever. We may very well be the last generations "alive", so cheer up and love one another=)
 
Can you handle these?

the cure?

(best)
don't mind the name because she accredits YHWH. see past your judgments and see WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING to us and this pore sad world.
This stuff is serious.

If you want to know what's really happening, you might want to look up something called "delusional parasitosis".

The TOG​
 
I try not to keep to darkness, there is to much of that, Gods gunna throw a flaming rock soon (after a few more things) and all the evil will be destroyed and then we will all live happily perfectly forever. We may very well be the last generations "alive", so cheer up and love one another=)
I really do wish people, young and old, would strive for that but my generation's mission was to see the first step of that mission completed, segregation in America. And our leaders were John Kennedy and Dr. M. King. If there were alive today they would be just as disappointed as those of us that still live are at the mess men have made of that.

My best friend that survived the war was a black man, a big black man I played the Blues with, and we never lived more that 30 miles apart but he was terrified for me to, ever, come to his house for a sip of wine, cigars and to play the Blues. Ed and I were tight in the war zone and strangers in our homes. That, my man, is as wrong as life can get, Ed carried me, in his arms, like a baby, to the medic once.
 
If you want to know what's really happening, you might want to look up something called "delusional parasitosis".

The TOG​
lol I understand the concept=) THANK GOD Im not imagining that I have little creators crawling in me, THANK GOD. haha, I always suggest researching the music industry and the devil cults controlling the world. its best t be informed. Shalom
 
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