WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

[Mitspa]

Glad to meet a perfect man...

Jas 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
Jas 3:3 Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
Jas 3:4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
Jas 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
Jas 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
Jas 3:7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
Jas 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

No man but you.

i may seem that way to you, but I assure you that what I am I am by the grace of God. That I might be found IN HIM, not having my own righteousness, which is by the law, but the righteousness of God that is through faith in Christ Jesus.

Thanks for the nice words, but I have not attained perfection, but I do press on in confidence that as He is, so am I, in this world.

He who fears has not been made perfect in love, for perfect love cast out all fear.

 

[Mitspa]

Jesus said "do not think that I will accuse you to the Father, there is one who accuses you, Moses in whom you trust"

We see this truth throughout the epistles, Paul takes great effort and time to show ever believer that the Law is not of faith and works against the believer, even producing sinful desires in the flesh.

Be sure that satan is the one who has brought law and its burden back into the church. For when the Lord was nailed to the Cross the written code that was contrary to us, was nailed to His Cross.
Having disarmed satan and his demonic kingdom!

So it is satan that desires the law to be laid upon the believer.
He is the ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERN. satan uses the law to make a charge of sin against those who are justified by the Blood of Christ.

In Him, we have no sin and cannot sin.

to be "in Him" means we are walking in faith and righteousness of faith.

Know that all false teaching is to attack our justified condition IN HIM. Even these crazy "elect" doctrines are made to challenge the righteousness of faith, and abiding in Christ by the spirit.

If you know and love Him? rejoice and be glad, for He has become your righteousness, holiness and wisdom.

None can take you from His Hand, if He corrects you, rejoice again because He plans to bring you nearer to His Kingdom.

Cast out the bondwoman! reject all those who preach and teach legalism in any form. Flee from these people, to not be entangled with the yoke of bondage!

We see on the Mt. of Transfiguration, that Moses and Elijah (representing the law and prophets) was but witnesses to Christ Jesus and that they are not to be in the same place with Christ! When Peter attempted to do this, THE FATHER Himself spoke, THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED, HEAR YE HIM!
the law and the prophets vanished and Only Jesus remained.
Throught the New Testament scriptures we see this truth at work. Jesus even call the law "your law" as speaking to the Jews. He told them He would not charge them with their sin but that Moses would.

Many in the church today do not see that we have been set free form any charge of the law of moses. Our law is Christ and the Father commandments are that we believe On Him and love as He gave commandment.

Jesus said, My sheep hear MY VOICE!
those who point you back to the law, are not teachers of Christ. They are full of seducing spirits, and those very ones that Paul warned us against.

Acts 20:31-32 Therefore watch and remember that by the space of three years I did not cease to warn every one night and day with tears. And now brethren I commend you to God, and to the WORD OF HIS GRACE, which is able to build you up, and give you an inheritance among the saints.

I tell you the root of all false doctrine comes from those who attempt to bring the law (in any part) upon the believer.

The purpose of the law is to witness to our need to die to the flesh with Christ. "for I through the law, died to the law"

That we might not walk any longer as mere men, in the flesh, but as Sons of God, by the Spirit.

This is the gospel, and on the Day of the Lord all men will be judged according to Pauls gospel.

 

[Deborah13]

Jesus said "do not think that I will accuse you to the Father, there is one who accuses you, Moses in whom you trust"

We see this truth throughout the epistles, Paul takes great effort and time to show ever believer that the Law is not of faith and works against the believer, even producing sinful desires in the flesh.

Be sure that satan is the one who has brought law and its burden back into the church. For when the Lord was nailed to the Cross the written code that was contrary to us, was nailed to His Cross.
Having disarmed satan and his demonic kingdom!

So it is satan that desires the law to be laid upon the believer.
He is the ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERN. satan uses the law to make a charge of sin against those who are justified by the Blood of Christ.

In Him, we have no sin and cannot sin.

to be "in Him" means we are walking in faith and righteousness of faith.

Know that all false teaching is to attack our justified condition IN HIM. Even these crazy "elect" doctrines are made to challenge the righteousness of faith, and abiding in Christ by the spirit.

If you know and love Him? rejoice and be glad, for He has become your righteousness, holiness and wisdom.

None can take you from His Hand, if He corrects you, rejoice again because He plans to bring you nearer to His Kingdom.

Cast out the bondwoman! reject all those who preach and teach legalism in any form. Flee from these people, to not be entangled with the yoke of bondage!

Wonderful post, well worth bringing forward.
Blessings

 

[Mitspa]

The written code " the 10 Commandments" was a shadow of the Spirit. Those who look to the letter are yet in the flesh and are by the flesh trying to please God. Now if we use the law as a witness to the Spirit we can understand that all the law is fulfilled in one word LOVE?
many do not steal, nor commit adultry etc.. But they are not keeping the law because the law is only kept when we love others as Jesus loves us.

It is impossible to keep the law unless one has the Holy Spirit and has the love of God shed abroad in their heart. Then we take that love given to us and love others.

Now all this works based upon the fact that "sin in the flesh" has been judged in the Body of our Lord. The bronze serpent was a picture of sin being judged in His Body.

Now just as sure as one can see that sin has been judged, they will understand that by His Body, we are healed.

Only one reason was given in the New Testament why a "believer" is weak and sick? They DO NOT DISCERN THE LORDS BODY.

now the 10 Commandments stand as a witness to Christ and to His love. THE LAW WRITTEN UPON THE HEART.

I say that one should walk in the Spirit. Not in the flesh for no man can please God by the letter.

When we through the law admit nothing good lives in our flesh, we turn away from the outward religious appearance and turn to the truth of who we are in spirit.

Judge yourself and you will not be judged? Are you walking in the truth of Christ in you? Or are you walking in the fig leaves of religion?

God will know His people and He will be their God. All true religion is based upon the truth of Christ in us.

If you do not know this truth? send me a PM and I will help you.

 

[Mitspa]

The written code " the 10 Commandments" was a shadow of the Spirit. Those who look to the letter are yet in the flesh and are by the flesh trying to please God. Now if we use the law as a witness to the Spirit we can understand that all the law is fulfilled in one word LOVE?
many do not steal, nor commit adultry etc.. But they are not keeping the law because the law is only kept when we love others as Jesus loves us.

It is impossible to keep the law unless one has the Holy Spirit and has the love of God shed abroad in their heart. Then we take that love given to us and love others.

Now all this works based upon the fact that "sin in the flesh" has been judged in the Body of our Lord. The bronze serpent was a picture of sin being judged in His Body.

Now just as sure as one can see that sin has been judged, they will understand that by His Body, we are healed.

Only one reason was given in the New Testament why a "believer" is weak and sick? They DO NOT DISCERN THE LORDS BODY.

now the 10 Commandments stand as a witness to Christ and to His love. THE LAW WRITTEN UPON THE HEART.

I say that one should walk in the Spirit. Not in the flesh for no man can please God by the letter.

When we through the law admit nothing good lives in our flesh, we turn away from the outward religious appearance and turn to the truth of who we are in spirit.

Judge yourself and you will not be judged? Are you walking in the truth of Christ in you? Or are you walking in the fig leaves of religion?

God will know His people and He will be their God. All true religion is based upon the truth of Christ in us.

If you do not know this truth? send me a PM and I will help you.

We are not called to preach the law (ten commandments) we are called to be "living epistles" to show the Law written upon our hearts.

Paul tells us that the reason that the world baspemes God is because of those who preach the law and do not do what they preach.

The law will produce hypocricy, this is seen by every sinner.

When we post our big Ten Commandments signs and the sinner knows they cannot keep them, and no one else keeps them, they are more justified in the eyes of God than the hypocrite who preaches the law.

No! live the law "written upon the heart" then every sinner will see the "living epistle" and will be convicted of their need for God and His Grace.

It is written that the Lord desires truth in the inner parts.
By Gods grace you are what you are, and so am I.

Where is boasting? all such boasting is evil.

No man has ever kept the Law save One.

 

[Mitspa]

20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 5: 20-21

Before the Law was brought in, sin was not being imputed to man. That is to say, there was no record being kept. Nowadays, The 10 commandments serve unbelievers to illustrate the huge chasm between us and God and instill in us a need for the grace of Jesus Christ, who is our ferry to the other side of the chasm away from the Law and unto righteousness, through the washing of our sins by the shed blood of our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Not sure of your point?
The scriptures are clear that we are not called to preach the law, but the gospel and the law is but a witness to the gospel.

Paul ask this same question to Gal. chrurch? did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law or the hearing of faith?

I am not saying there is not place for the law, but one who is not spiritual and has not died to law with Christ. Cannot lawfully use the law.

All who promote the law and put others under its yoke are in fact in error. The law is to be used by righteous men to bring others into the righteousness of faith.

We can discuss this issue further because it does take some time to understand the proper use and place of the law.

But i assure you that a sinner sees the hypocricy of those who claim to keep the law and post it upon the doors of their church.

Its like putting up a spiritual wall against them.

No we are called to preach the gospel and the law as a witness to the work of Christ.

Show me one place in the whole New Testament where the Apostles went and preached the law?

The reason some preach the law is because they do not understand the gospel.

 

[Mitspa]

Oh, I'm sorry I didn't mean to break the continuity of the thread. I was responding to the OP. I agree with what you have been saying. The Apostles did not preach the Law, they preached Grace. Thank God for Grace!

Edward, your humility is such a blessing!
I do not mean to be so blunt with you, but this issue is so important to understand that I often use great plainness of speech.

The essence of truth of the gospel, is that Christ came and delivered us from the Law and the judgment of sin that the law condemned. If one gets that backwards they are in error, and are in fact working against the gospel.

So its very important that the Chruch knows how to use the law for its purpose "lawfully" Its clear that most do not understand this truth, and actually hinder the salvation that is found in Christ. Blessings to you my brother, I hope you can understand the point I am trying to make? -Mitspa

 

[Mitspa]

Rom 3:19

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Rom 3:20

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


Gal 3:10

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12

And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.



Gal 3:22

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

I find it really hard to understand how satan has so blinded much of the "church" It seems so few understand what is so clear?

satan is the accuser, when the Lord was nailed to the Cross, all the law was nailed there also "for the believer" now He has taken it out of the way. When He did this, He disarmed satan and his kingdom? Because satan needs a legal charge of sin against a believers conscience, before he can destroy them.

MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

only when a believer understand that the law can no longer make a charge against them, will they be able to stand against satan and his accusations.
Here is why Paul spends most of his writtings explaining the purpose of the law and how Christ fulfilled the law.

 

[Mitspa]

Rom 3:19

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Rom 3:20

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


Gal 3:10

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12

And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.



Gal 3:22

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

I find it really hard to understand how satan has so blinded much of the "church" It seems so few understand what is so clear?

Woe to them who boast in mans strength! For as Peter who boasted in his love for God, and in his own strength! He was sifted for he had confidence in his own ability. Those who build upon the righteousness of the law are as those who build upon the sand. Those who build upon God Rightousness are building upon the Rock.
"BY GRACE YE STAND" is not just some vain religious slogan, it is the heart and truth of the gospel.
FOR THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH, AND THOSE WHO DRAW BACK, MY HEART HAS NO PLEASURE IN THEM SAITH THE LORD.

 

[Elijah674]

As one reads they will find Eze. 28??

We who can (?) will find the Law of God in ETERNITY.
God SPOKE directly with his own from day one up to the time He was ask NOT TO! (Mt. Sinai)

Also read Rev. 18:19-20 + Eccl. 12:13-14

--Elijah

 

[John 8:32]

As one reads they will find Eze. 28??

We who can (?) will find the Law of God in ETERNITY.
God SPOKE directly with his own from day one up to the time He was ask NOT TO! (Mt. Sinai)

Also read Rev. 18:19-20 + Eccl. 12:13-14

--Elijah

If one happens to stumble across verse 15 they find the author of iniquity (LAWLESSNESS).

 

[Elijah674]

Read Psalm 19:7-13 for how David tells it! And my the way he was a prophet huh? And pay attention t verse 19!
See 1 Cor. 14:32.. meaning that none of these contradicted another!

--Elijah

 

[Mitspa]

Rom 3:19

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Rom 3:20

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


Gal 3:10

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12

And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.



Gal 3:22

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

I find it really hard to understand how satan has so blinded much of the "church" It seems so few understand what is so clear?

Again we know that when we use the law for its purpose, to make all men guilty before God, and bring them to Christ, we have used the law, lawfully.

 

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